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Posted on 08/22/2012 7:05:20 AM PDT by Renfield
Evidence of African, Arabian, south-east Asian and Siberian ancestry in Scotland, says author of book tracing genetic journey
A large scale study of Scottish people's DNA is threatening to "rewrite the nation's history", according to author Alistair Moffat.
Scotland, he told the Edinburgh international book festival, despite a long-held belief that its ethnic make-up was largely Scots, Celtic, Viking and Irish, was in fact "one of the most diverse nations on earth".
"The explanation is simple. We are a people on the edge of beyond; on the end of a massive continent. Peoples were migrating northwest; and they couldn't get any further. We have collected them."....
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
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Please cite them; it’s so much more convincing than bluster
I’ve got it, thanks
My copy is 15 years old and dog-eared from re-reading.
CC
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Actually, I don’t read it as a list of a variety of peoples that came to Scotland, but a chronological narrative of the migrations of the people that came to be known as Scots. They didn’t think that Scythians, Spaniards, etc, were all different groups that migrated to Scotland and got amalgamated. Rather, they traced the migration of one nation or group of tribes back through those lands, to their furthest known point of origin.
Who cares? I’m Welsh! Sort of,,,,,,,,
“Daggone it, couldn’t get a rise out of a single Scotsman with that one. They’re not as easy to spin up as they used to be.”
We’ve decided to stop yelling about it and just quietly slit your throat when you least expect, instead.
:)
Maybe a majority, but not 90%. A lot of Ulster-Scots lived west of the major population centers. There were also smaller but sizable numbers of Germans, Dutch, Swedes, French (especially Hugenots), Welsh, and others.
I don’t eat things with French names.
“Och, is that a lump in yer sock, Laddie, or are ye just glad to see m... AHHH! AAAAAHHHHHHH! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!”
Maybe a majority, but not 90%. A lot of Ulster-Scots lived west of the major population centers. There were also smaller but sizable numbers of Germans, Dutch, Swedes, French (especially Hugenots), Welsh, and others.
Definitely struck the wrong chord since I'm familiar with the large emigration of Scots, some them as indentured servants, in the 1690's from the Northeast of Scotland. (Don't make me tell that story abt me forebear again) But the exact demographics I'd not considered. A cursory look-see shows:
By 1776 about 85% of the white population was of English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh descent, with 9% of German origin and 4% Dutch. These populations continued to grow at a rapid rate throughout the 18th century primarily because of high birth rates, and relatively low death rates. Immigration was a minor factor from 1774 to 1830. Over 90% were farmers, with several small cities that were also seaports linking the colonial economy to the larger British Empire
My guess for strictly English? Around 55-60% tops.
Source: Population
“One per cent of all Scottish men, said Moffat, have Berber ancestry”
There was some kind of Neolithic Megalith culture which extended from parts of the Mediterranean, beginning far to the east in Malta and then across parts of Sicily, Sardinia, Spain and France into the British Isles. This culture may have been also connected with North Africa and the people there may have been ancestral to Berbers. I believe that even the early Canary Islanders (Guanches) were Berbers or related to the Berbers.
However, accounts of the Guanches, and of the early Libyans who raided the Nile Delta in Pharaohonic times reported having blue-eyed, blonde, light skinned people among them.
Connecting the then with the now can lead to some erroneous conclusions when one has a political agenda to advance.
North African Berbers even today are not technically “black”, and the “black” element may be connected with the typical Muslim practice of establishing slave trading wherever they went.
The black element in Egypt goes back at least to Pharaonic times when the Pharoahs recruited Kushite bowmen into their armies and when one of the Dynasties was ENTIRELY a black one which originated from the Meroitic Kingdom to the South of Pharaonic Egypt.
I’d love to; but they are buried in my gazillion-page graduate thesis on marriage and the history of marriage in the U.S. leading up to the era of Roe v. Wade, when the SCOTUS began to destroy all legal supports for marriage. But common sense would tell you that before the 60s, when adultery was still a crime, fewer women than men took the chance on cheating, since there was no welfare, and they would lose their children or be abandoned with no means of support. It’s late. If this argument doesn’t convince you, freepmail me and I might look it up. You could certainly google it yourself.
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Pretty close; 20% to men, 15-16% for women
This can mean only one thing....”THEY MEAN TO WIN WIMBLEDON!”
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