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How Many Loose Planets in the Milky Way?
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| February 29, 2012
| Monica Young
Posted on 03/10/2012 11:28:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv
Researchers at the Kavli Institute for Particle Astrophysics and Cosmology (KIPAC) at Stanford University estimate that "nomad" planets, ejected from their home stellar system and now free-floating through the Milky Way, could outnumber stars by as many as 100,000 to 1. Earlier estimates were more like a handful to 1, though previous studies have only counted unbound planets more massive than Jupiter.
To estimate the number of unbound planets as small as Pluto that could be roaming the galaxy, Louis Strigari (KIPAC), lead author of the study, began with a basic rule of nature: where a few big objects are found, there are many more small, just like a few boulders may be surrounded by thousands of pebbles. Strigari and colleagues calculated the number of unbound planets by extrapolating from the small number detected so far by direct imaging and by gravitational microlensing.
Direct imaging has severe limits because planets are so faint. Microlensing offers more promise. It looks for the characteristic brightening and fading of a background star when an object, even one as wimpy as Pluto, passes nearly in front of it and bends its light slightly by gravity. So far, 24 planet-mass objects have been detected by microlensing -- 14 bound to their parent stars, 10 apparently not. Microlensing offers hope for detection of loose objects large and small even if they are completely dark, and even at great distances across the galaxy.
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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; deusexmachina; immanuelvelikovsky; rogueplanet; rogueplanets; science; velikovsky; worldsincollision; xplanets
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To: SunkenCiv
I was taught there were only 9 planets and that one found in another solar system would be called something else besides a planet. A planet used to be a large body orbiting around our sun. Who changed the rules?
41
posted on
03/10/2012 12:37:35 PM PST
by
mountainlion
(I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
To: All
Loose women on loose planets? Ask Laz.
42
posted on
03/10/2012 12:39:38 PM PST
by
BipolarBob
(When do the salmon return to Capistrano?)
To: SunkenCiv; null and void
And that’s another thing. 400 billion stars in the galaxy times 100,000 means that commute is going to be a BITCH.
That is a number so big it doesn’t have a name?
10,000 trillion?
43
posted on
03/10/2012 12:40:48 PM PST
by
bigheadfred
(I'm still pissed about Pluto)
To: AnotherUnixGeek
I realize the issue itself results from a statistical hypothesis which relies on a hypothesis - as yet unproven by empirical evidence, that presumes a material similarity (on average statisically) in the formation of solar systems.
I am frankly concerned that as much as I think there is room for federal funding of basic science (scientific questions far from deriving a profitable enterprise therefrom) that there is an excess of funding of the purely speculative science that is not only far distant from any pracitcal application or use but just as far distant from any practical, empirical proof (”string theory” for instance).
I think true scientific breakthroughs that have served humanity were at the time actual baby steps built on questions posed by previous steps that had already obtained proof, even though to most people at the time the result seemed like a great leap. But now, in my humble opinion, we have many public and privately funded scientists paid for pursing not “next steps” in science, but great leaps of imagination. Just my humble opinion.
44
posted on
03/10/2012 12:43:32 PM PST
by
Wuli
To: SunkenCiv
"How Many Loose Planets in the Milky Way?" Word is Venus is one "Slutty Ho'" and is always trying to hook-up with Uranus...
45
posted on
03/10/2012 12:44:47 PM PST
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
To: bigheadfred
46
posted on
03/10/2012 12:59:52 PM PST
by
null and void
(Day 1145 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
To: SunkenCiv
KIPAC? Is that near K-PAX?
47
posted on
03/10/2012 1:08:10 PM PST
by
alpo
To: Mmogamer
On a planet larger than Earth the combination of heat from internal nuclear processes such as fission and gravitational pressure could very well be sufficient to keep a planet warm enough to maintain a non-solid atmosphere. After all, stellar objects, from the Sun down to brown dwarfs, manage to maintain an atmosphere even though they're in the cold depths of space without a larger star to keep them heated. And the mass of interstellar bodies is more of a continuum with a not-so-bright-line division between planets and stars (bodies formed by accretion and bodies formed by collapse of interstellar gas). Further, theory discusses so-called "
cold gas giants" which can radiate more heat than they receive from their host stars.
It is therefore not outside the realm of possibility for there to be bodies in interstellar space that are not "stars" properly speaking but which do generate sufficient internal heat to maintain a gaseous atmosphere.
48
posted on
03/10/2012 1:23:57 PM PST
by
Oceander
(TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
To: AnotherUnixGeek; Wuli
I also wondered of the “loose planets” where another means of accounting for dark matter, and that’s why they came up with the 100,000:1 ratio.
I’ve never been comfortable with the theory of “Dark Matter.” I have a nagging suspicion that it’s a hypothesis created to patch a hole in a flawed underlying theory.
But, I’m not an astrophysicist, so I can nurse my ignorant prejudices all I want.
49
posted on
03/10/2012 1:29:02 PM PST
by
henkster
(Andrew Breitbart would not have apologized.)
To: bert
To us accretionists the concept of a loose planet is heresy. Why hasn't the asteroid belt accreted into a planet yet? I've been puzzling over that since I was a kid.
Not having studied it (at all), my working theory is that it once was a planet that was busted up by impact. The accretion process should be ongoing now.
50
posted on
03/10/2012 1:39:28 PM PST
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Windflier
-——Why hasn’t the asteroid belt accreted into a planet yet——
Patience Grasshopper....... be patient
51
posted on
03/10/2012 1:43:29 PM PST
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
To: bert
Patience Grasshopper....... be patient Well, I did say that my theory is that it's re-forming into a planet even now. Of course, that'll take a few billion years or so, but what the hey. I'm in no hurry.
52
posted on
03/10/2012 1:46:52 PM PST
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
To: Oceander
True I was just saying a rocky type like Earth probably couldn’t however.
53
posted on
03/10/2012 1:58:03 PM PST
by
Mmogamer
(I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
To: Windflier
I'm in no hurry.Good thing, too. Do you know how many Chinese asteroid miners that would put out of work?
54
posted on
03/10/2012 2:04:11 PM PST
by
bigheadfred
(I'm still pissed about Pluto)
To: Mmogamer
True I was just saying a rocky type like Earth probably couldnt however.
Fair enough. On that point I think you're almost certainly correct; anything that was large enough, and radioactive enough, to keep itself heated wouldn't have a rocky surface; it might have some sort of a surface, but there would almost certainly have to be a lot more interchange between the atmosphere and the underlying, heated, materials than there is on a rocky body on a par with Earth.
55
posted on
03/10/2012 2:05:54 PM PST
by
Oceander
(TINSTAAFL - Mother Nature Abhors a Free Lunch almost as much as She Abhors a Vacuum)
To: Windflier
To get a feeling for current events and your seemingly correct thoughts on asteroids, bing “asteroid 2011”. They are here now!
Precisely where they are vectored we do not know......
eventually, though it is the Sun
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posted on
03/10/2012 2:06:15 PM PST
by
bert
(K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
To: Windflier
Why hasn't the asteroid belt accreted into a planet yet? I've been puzzling over that since I was a kid. Jupiter keeps disturbing the process.
57
posted on
03/10/2012 2:13:06 PM PST
by
PapaBear3625
(In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
To: bert; Windflier
To get a feeling for current events2011 was so yesterday. Bing "asteroid 2013". We got one headed our way NOW.
58
posted on
03/10/2012 2:21:30 PM PST
by
bigheadfred
(I'm still pissed about Pluto)
To: bert; Windflier
UPCOMING CLOSE APPROACHES TO EARTH |
1 AU = ~150 million kilometers 1 LD = Lunar Distance = ~384,000 kilometers
Object Name |
Close Approach Date |
Miss Distance (AU) |
Miss Distance (LD) |
Estimated Diameter* |
H (mag) |
Relative Velocity (km/s) |
(2012 DP32) |
2012-Mar-10 |
0.0362 |
14.1 |
36 m - 80 m |
24.4 |
8.84 |
(2012 DH54) |
2012-Mar-10 |
0.0085 |
3.3 |
7.6 m - 17 m |
27.7 |
4.79 |
(2012 DF31) |
2012-Mar-10 |
0.0546 |
21.3 |
34 m - 77 m |
24.4 |
13.72 |
(2012 EJ1) |
2012-Mar-10 |
0.0294 |
11.5 |
27 m - 60 m |
25.0 |
9.67 |
(2011 UU106) |
2012-Mar-11 |
0.1737 |
67.6 |
500 m - 1.1 km |
18.6 |
8.81 |
(2012 DN14) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.0698 |
27.2 |
30 m - 68 m |
24.7 |
4.33 |
(2012 EN3) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.0504 |
19.6 |
40 m - 90 m |
24.1 |
9.06 |
(2012 DW60) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.0064 |
2.5 |
14 m - 31 m |
26.4 |
5.64 |
(2012 BK11) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.1750 |
68.1 |
72 m - 160 m |
22.8 |
3.03 |
(2010 SV3) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.0577 |
22.5 |
190 m - 430 m |
20.7 |
15.34 |
(2010 XA11) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.1676 |
65.2 |
16 m - 36 m |
26.1 |
7.87 |
(2010 CO1) |
2012-Mar-12 |
0.1132 |
44.1 |
130 m - 290 m |
21.5 |
13.73 |
192642 (1999 RD32) |
2012-Mar-14 |
0.1488 |
57.9 |
1.5 km - 3.3 km |
16.3 |
18.80 |
(2012 ER3) |
2012-Mar-14 |
0.0575 |
22.4 |
34 m - 76 m |
24.5 |
12.63 |
(2008 EY5) |
2012-Mar-14 |
0.0882 |
34.3 |
250 m - 570 m |
20.1 |
11.99 |
(2012 BB14) |
2012-Mar-15 |
0.0483 |
18.8 |
27 m - 60 m |
25.0 |
2.10 |
(2011 YU62) |
2012-Mar-16 |
0.1885 |
73.4 |
830 m - 1.8 km |
17.5 |
17.85 |
(2010 FN) |
2012-Mar-19 |
0.1438 |
56.0 |
13 m - 28 m |
26.6 |
11.18 |
(2012 BT23) |
2012-Mar-20 |
0.1239 |
48.2 |
420 m - 940 m |
19.0 |
13.11 |
(2012 DO8) |
2012-Mar-20 |
0.1755 |
68.3 |
96 m - 210 m |
22.2 |
7.26 |
(2012 DH4) |
2012-Mar-21 |
0.0606 |
23.6 |
190 m - 420 m |
20.7 |
15.55 |
(2011 SY120) |
2012-Mar-21 |
0.0517 |
20.1 |
65 m - 150 m |
23.1 |
17.55 |
(2001 QJ142) |
2012-Mar-22 |
0.1909 |
74.3 |
55 m - 120 m |
23.4 |
8.46 |
(2010 FR9) |
2012-Mar-22 |
0.0479 |
18.6 |
16 m - 35 m |
26.1 |
8.66 |
(2012 EB2) |
2012-Mar-23 |
0.0395 |
15.4 |
32 m - 72 m |
24.6 |
5.85 |
(2012 BS23) |
2012-Mar-23 |
0.1580 |
61.5 |
140 m - 310 m |
21.4 |
11.05 |
(2012 DW30) |
2012-Mar-24 |
0.1191 |
46.3 |
77 m - 170 m |
22.7 |
5.02 |
(2012 EC) |
2012-Mar-24 |
0.1963 |
76.4 |
50 m - 110 m |
23.6 |
2.95 |
(2012 DO) |
2012-Mar-25 |
0.1061 |
41.3 |
240 m - 540 m |
20.2 |
7.60 |
152754 (1999 GS6) |
2012-Mar-26 |
0.1118 |
43.5 |
340 m - 760 m |
19.5 |
11.71 |
(2011 GB55) |
2012-Mar-27 |
0.1114 |
43.4 |
130 m - 280 m |
21.6 |
16.14 |
(2002 EW8) |
2012-Mar-28 |
0.1996 |
77.7 |
53 m - 120 m |
23.5 |
13.67 |
(2012 CA55) |
2012-Mar-30 |
0.0566 |
22.0 |
120 m - 270 m |
21.7 |
9.26 |
(2008 GD) |
2012-Mar-30 |
0.1687 |
65.6 |
300 m - 670 m |
19.7 |
32.35 |
(2009 TP) |
2012-Mar-31 |
0.1157 |
45.0 |
52 m - 120 m |
23.5 |
3.72 |
(2008 CH70) |
2012-Apr-01 |
0.0872 |
33.9 |
34 m - 77 m |
24.4 |
9.06 |
(2011 FQ6) |
2012-Apr-03 |
0.1784 |
69.4 |
7.5 m - 17 m |
27.7 |
6.89 |
(2010 GD35) |
2012-Apr-03 |
0.0630 |
24.5 |
33 m - 73 m |
24.5 |
10.64 |
(2012 AA11) |
2012-Apr-03 |
0.0729 |
28.4 |
270 m - 610 m |
20.0 |
8.51 |
(2010 GE30) |
2012-Apr-05 |
0.1353 |
52.7 |
49 m - 110 m |
23.7 |
4.65 |
(2004 TB10) |
2012-Apr-05 |
0.0967 |
37.6 |
150 m - 330 m |
21.2 |
12.42 |
(2007 WU3) |
2012-Apr-06 |
0.1831 |
71.3 |
56 m - 120 m |
23.4 |
6.28 |
(2012 DX75) |
2012-Apr-06 |
0.0603 |
23.5 |
210 m - 480 m |
20.5 |
12.86 |
(2003 UD22) |
2012-Apr-06 |
0.1711 |
66.6 |
320 m - 720 m |
19.6 |
12.91 |
(1995 DW1) |
2012-Apr-07 |
0.1712 |
66.6 |
160 m - 360 m |
21.1 |
12.85 |
(2008 GG2) |
2012-Apr-10 |
0.1445 |
56.2 |
78 m - 170 m |
22.7 |
7.16 |
(2007 HC) |
2012-Apr-10 |
0.1813 |
70.6 |
24 m - 53 m |
25.2 |
11.34 |
(2009 HE60) |
2012-Apr-10 |
0.1096 |
42.7 |
20 m - 44 m |
25.7 |
4.71 |
(2004 FG11) |
2012-Apr-10 |
0.0574 |
22.3 |
170 m - 390 m |
20.9 |
25.09 |
(2006 UE17) |
2012-Apr-12 |
0.1375 |
53.5 |
110 m - 250 m |
21.9 |
8.99 |
(2004 RQ252) |
2012-Apr-12 |
0.0441 |
17.2 |
90 m - 200 m |
22.3 |
10.71 |
(2007 DK) |
2012-Apr-13 |
0.1735 |
67.5 |
370 m - 840 m |
19.3 |
12.73 |
(2003 GQ22) |
2012-Apr-14 |
0.1179 |
45.9 |
170 m - 380 m |
21.0 |
10.48 |
(2009 WD106) |
2012-Apr-15 |
0.1927 |
75.0 |
500 m - 1.1 km |
18.6 |
25.20 |
297274 (1996 SK) |
2012-Apr-18 |
0.1726 |
67.2 |
1.0 km - 2.2 km |
17.1 |
19.26 |
(2007 HV4) |
2012-Apr-19 |
0.0122 |
4.8 |
4.9 m - 11 m |
28.7 |
8.98 |
(2010 HW20) |
2012-Apr-19 |
0.1549 |
60.3 |
16 m - 36 m |
26.1 |
6.74 |
(2008 AF3) |
2012-Apr-19 |
0.1957 |
76.2 |
14 m - 31 m |
26.4 |
1.72 |
141018 (2001 WC47) |
2012-Apr-19 |
0.1013 |
39.4 |
510 m - 1.1 km |
18.6 |
3.80 |
(2011 UP63) |
2012-Apr-20 |
0.1283 |
49.9 |
48 m - 110 m |
23.7 |
5.83 |
(2010 WR7) |
2012-Apr-21 |
0.1834 |
71.4 |
52 m - 120 m |
23.5 |
6.52 |
(2009 HU44) |
2012-Apr-21 |
0.0872 |
33.9 |
84 m - 190 m |
22.5 |
21.17 |
(2011 UD21) |
2012-Apr-22 |
0.0547 |
21.3 |
5.3 m - 12 m |
28.5 |
1.46 |
(2008 TZ3) |
2012-Apr-23 |
0.1673 |
65.1 |
230 m - 510 m |
20.3 |
13.31 |
(2003 WH166) |
2012-Apr-23 |
0.0509 |
19.8 |
110 m - 250 m |
21.9 |
13.49 |
(2006 VQ13) |
2012-Apr-24 |
0.1395 |
54.3 |
260 m - 580 m |
20.0 |
15.47 |
(2012 AP10) |
2012-Apr-24 |
0.1481 |
57.6 |
14 m - 31 m |
26.4 |
2.08 |
(2009 UW18) |
2012-Apr-28 |
0.1355 |
52.7 |
320 m - 720 m |
19.6 |
14.22 |
(2011 WV134) |
2012-Apr-28 |
0.0992 |
38.6 |
1.1 km - 2.4 km |
17.0 |
12.12 |
(2008 UC202) |
2012-Apr-29 |
0.0263 |
10.2 |
6.0 m - 13 m |
28.2 |
4.55 |
(2009 TP) |
2012-Apr-30 |
0.1177 |
45.8 |
52 m - 120 m |
23.5 |
3.13 |
(2004 MD) |
2012-Apr-30 |
0.1679 |
65.3 |
250 m - 560 m |
20.1 |
10.24 |
(1992 JD) |
2012-May-02 |
0.0243 |
9.5 |
26 m - 59 m |
25.0 |
6.98 |
(2001 SZ269) |
2012-May-03 |
0.0713 |
27.8 |
380 m - 860 m |
19.2 |
18.07 |
(2010 KX7) |
2012-May-04 |
0.0390 |
15.2 |
110 m - 260 m |
21.8 |
11.42 |
(2011 JN5) |
2012-May-05 |
0.1107 |
43.1 |
25 m - 55 m |
25.2 |
17.81 |
(1998 HE3) |
2012-May-10 |
0.0319 |
12.4 |
120 m - 270 m |
21.7 |
11.93 |
(2005 SQ9) |
2012-May-11 |
0.0852 |
33.2 |
68 m - 150 m |
22.9 |
10.21 |
141432 (2002 CQ11) |
2012-May-12 |
0.1022 |
39.8 |
280 m - 630 m |
19.9 |
16.26 |
(2008 CB6) |
2012-May-13 |
0.1103 |
42.9 |
10 m - 23 m |
27.1 |
10.85 |
* Diameter estimates based on the object's absolute magnitude.
|
NASA NEO
59
posted on
03/10/2012 2:32:15 PM PST
by
bigheadfred
(I'm still pissed about Pluto)
To: bigheadfred
Do you know how many Chinese asteroid miners that would put out of work? :-)
60
posted on
03/10/2012 7:51:39 PM PST
by
Windflier
(To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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