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Joan of Arc 'Relics' Confirmed to Be Fake
Discovery News ^ | Wednesday, January 20, 2010 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 01/26/2010 6:24:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv

The bottle containing the bones first surfaced at a pharmacy in 1867. Its label read: "Remains found under the pyre of Joan of Arc, maiden of Orleans." Different techniques, including DNA analysis, several forms of microscopy, chemical analysis and carbon dating, were used to examine the bottle's contents. A few years ago, Philippe Charlier, a forensic scientist at Raymond Poincare Hospital in Garches, France, and his team first determined that the bottle contained an approximately 4-inch-long human rib covered with a black coating. It also housed part of a cat femur covered with the same coating, three fragments of "charcoal" and "a brownish textile scrap" about the same length as the rib. Charlier said some historians then speculated that a cat, perhaps symbolizing the devil, was thrown onto Joan of Arc's funeral pyre. Carbon dating, however, found that the objects predate the French heroine's lifetime by many centuries. The "textile scrap" is likely a mummy wrapping, since "the chemical composition of the coatings was comparable with that of embalming products, such as those used by the old Egyptians," the researchers concluded. The dark coating contained a mix of bitumen, wood resins, gypsum and other chemicals. Pine pollen was also identified, probably from pine resin, commonly used during Egyptian embalming. The researchers believe the remains were first stored as "mummia," which were parts of Egyptian mummies used in medieval pharmaceuticals. Medieval medicine, for example, may call for a compress made of a mummy bit and the juice of an herb (Bursa pastoris) to stop nosebleeds.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; andthentheresmaude; france; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; joanofarc; romancatholicism
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1 posted on 01/26/2010 6:24:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 01/26/2010 6:25:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

But accurate!


3 posted on 01/26/2010 6:26:46 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (doctrine matters)
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To: SunkenCiv

Relics have the same worth as idols.


4 posted on 01/26/2010 6:26:52 PM PST by dr_who
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To: SunkenCiv
"The researchers believe the remains were first stored as "mummia,""

This must have been before the cop-killing incident...
5 posted on 01/26/2010 6:29:43 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I will never understand the fetish for relics. I admire Washington and Jefferson but I have no interest in their bones

But, to each his own...

6 posted on 01/26/2010 6:33:42 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
mummia! Thats a big meatball!


7 posted on 01/26/2010 6:46:47 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: SunkenCiv

8 posted on 01/26/2010 6:57:57 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: muir_redwoods

It’s not a fetish and it’s quite understandable: the bones of Elisha and the handkerchiefs of St. Paul and all that.

But the standpoint of historical claims, one must be very careful. They were easy to fake and lucrative enough for a dishonest person.


9 posted on 01/26/2010 7:11:26 PM PST by Claud
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To: dr_who
Relics have the same worth as idols.

Acts 19:22...was that idolatry?

The theology of relics is often poorly understood. Of course the things have no supernatural power in themselves, but if the good Lord wishes to *give* them such a power, who are you or I to object?

In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that even a fake relic devoid of any historical value can be a conduit for grace if used piously.

10 posted on 01/26/2010 7:17:10 PM PST by Claud
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To: Red_Devil 232

LOL!


11 posted on 01/26/2010 7:30:52 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: InvisibleChurch; dr_who

:’)


12 posted on 01/26/2010 7:39:45 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

heh...


13 posted on 01/26/2010 7:41:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Now that's comedy!
14 posted on 01/26/2010 7:56:48 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (doctrine matters)
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To: dr_who

“Relics have the same worth as idols.”

You have to be reading the entire Bible to know why that is not the case.

Abridged versions (intentionally?) leave that part out.


15 posted on 01/27/2010 7:41:41 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SunkenCiv
No bones about it, Joan was a babe.


16 posted on 01/27/2010 10:12:33 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

“How would you like your stake?”


17 posted on 01/27/2010 4:40:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, nobody is going to mention that few academics could be trusted to conduct such tests properly and report the results honestly?


18 posted on 01/27/2010 10:16:15 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is it just me or does it feel hot in here?


19 posted on 01/28/2010 9:09:53 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: muir_redwoods
At St. Mark's cathedral in Venice, there's a small room lined with relics in fancy reliquaries. The finger bone of St. Jerome, the kneecap of St. Bartholomew, and so on. It's actually pretty funny to see them all together in a display case.


20 posted on 01/28/2010 9:20:02 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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