Obama's certificate number is later than the Nordyke twins even though he born a day earlier.

Vanity | 7/28/09 | Vanity

[Smokeyblue]

DinkyJackson wrote on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302882/posts?q=1&;page=101

Obama’s (finally published) birth certificate serial number is 151 1961 - 010641, he was born on 8-4-1961, and the certificate was filed by the Registrar on 8-8-1961 ( http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html )

Today, the Honolulu advertiser publishes a story, and at the bottom includes a set of long-form BC’s from a woman who had twins at Kapiolani on 8-5-1961 who went to school with Obama.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+officials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s+original+birth+certificate+still+exists

These twins were born the day AFTER Obama AT KAPIOLANI. And their certificate numbers are LOWER than his (10637 and 10638). They were born 8-5-1961, the certificates were signed by mom 8-7-1961, signed by the MD 8-11-1961, and signed by the Registrar 8-11-1961.

THIS MEANS HE DEFINITELY WAS NOT BORN AT KAPIOLANI, because his BC number (born on Aug 4th and filed with Registrar Aug 8th) should have a lower number than the twins (Born Aug 5th at Kapiolani and filed with Registrar Aug 11th)

[EDINVA]

or it could be that Nordyke comes alphabetically before Obama? Preparation of the birth certificates in the hospital is an administrative function, not done in the delivery room sequentially. And even in 1961, they were likely done in batches, to be delivered to the mothers within a few days of the birth.

[fr_freak]

It also implies that Barry’s BC was filed on or around august 4, 1961 his so called date of birth and not filed much later when mom got back from Kenya. I think this is damning to our birther argument.

First, everything you say will be suspect until you get some posting history. We are constantly hit by trolls here.

Second, the closeness in numbers does nothing to damage the possibility of the forged birth certificate. Do you really think that anyone who tried to pass off a bogus birth certificate for the president of the US would just yank a serial number out of his behind? Anyone with half a brain would look for a serial number that was relevant for the place and time period. If Freepers can find out what the range of serial numbers used in those days are, then surely any potential forgers could, too.

[Myrddin]

It's so hard to lie and not get caught. One leads to another to cover the inconsistency. Obama can't help himself. It's in his nature to lie.

[Smokeyblue]

I don’t actually know what to make of this information but I do know that Obama has fought releasing his long form. It might not be the “natural born” part that is the problem for him. It might be something else.

Excluding the fact that he is already ineligible due to his supposed father being a foreigner.

[BP2]

A picture (or table) says a thousand words:

Name	Location of Birth	Birth Cert #	Date/Time Born
Barack Hussein Obama II	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10641	Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm
Susan Elizabeth Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10637	Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm
Gretchen Carter Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10638	Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm

[OneWingedShark]

Thank you.

[Political Junkie Too]

Cool! And the embossed seal scanned, too!

-PJ

[BP2]

Obama can't help himself. It's in his nature to lie.

Almost like a predictable Greek tragedy, isn't he?

[meatloaf]

You’re forgetting that at that time a family member could file the information for a birth and it didn’t have to be in Hawaii. I would expect the number to be close.

[Ann Archy]

Rut-Roh! <P.The Nordyke Twins will be DESTROYED!

[RummyChick]

I have been saying that someone should make a donation with a letter and a note in the memo section of the check that the donation is in honor of Obama being born at the hospital as shown in the letter on their website.

See what happens.

Charity fraud has happened here if Obama was not born at the hospital and notice that the White House refuses to say if he wrote the letter.

There should be an investigation by the someone if he didn’t write the letter. Secret Service ? I am not sure who would be the one. Maybe DOJ?

[Ann Archy]

Murdered Key Witness.......Nothing to see here...move on.

[Jen]

Why are the twins birth certificate numbers 151-61-10637 and 151-61-10638 while Obama's is 151-1961-010641?

The twins just have "61" instead of "1961". Anyone know why there's a difference in the numbering format?

[1000 silverlings]

Serial numbers are stamped on. Obama’s can be compared with the ones just before and the ones just after to see if they have a similarity. I would think it would be hard to fake a stamp from 1961.

[freedommom]

I am laughing my a$$ off at the left trying to kill this story.

Well some people on fr feel the same way.
Here is a response I got when I called the author of
an article about the birth certificate a rino. She called “birthers” american kooks.

Just another RINO
Deb Saunders is hardly a “RINO”. This is exactly why you people attract no credibility and people believe you to be kooks. Anyone, no matter their conservative bona fides, disagrees with your inane theory and they are ‘sellouts’, ‘RINOs’, or ‘secretly in league with liberals and Obama’.

Sorry, but if you think that sane conservatives are just going to stand idly by while they are (erroneoulsy) linked to you feckin fruitcakes you are sadly mistaken. You're all an abject embarrassment to the Right and specifically to conservatives.

41 posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:25:07 AM

[freedommom]

I am laughing my a$$ off at the left trying to kill this story.

Well some people on fr feel the same way.
Here is a response I got when I called the author of
an article about the birth certificate a rino. She called “birthers” american kooks.

Just another RINO
Deb Saunders is hardly a “RINO”. This is exactly why you people attract no credibility and people believe you to be kooks. Anyone, no matter their conservative bona fides, disagrees with your inane theory and they are ‘sellouts’, ‘RINOs’, or ‘secretly in league with liberals and Obama’.

Sorry, but if you think that sane conservatives are just going to stand idly by while they are (erroneoulsy) linked to you feckin fruitcakes you are sadly mistaken. You're all an abject embarrassment to the Right and specifically to conservatives.

41 posted on Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:25:07 AM

[Jane Austen]

True.

[1000 silverlings]

151-1961-010641?

Exactly, they tried to fake the stamp it looks like. Someone needs to check the ones after Obama's to see what the numbers are

[bvw]

The dates of filing at the State Department of Vital Records would reflect that — in this case the Nordyke twins certificates were entered into Vital Statistics AFTER Obam’s certificate was, yet their serial numbers come before!

That’s kind of a hard thing for which to think of an easy explanation. Little facts are the quicksand that captures a cunning fraud.

[Typical_Whitey]

We need to find out who *639 and *640 are and see exactly how many days went by before anne could get back from Kenya.