Posted on 06/10/2009 7:53:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
This summer, how would you like to lean back in your lawn chair and toss back a brew made from what may be the world’s oldest recipe for beer? Called Chateau Jiahu, this blend of rice, honey and fruit was intoxicating Chinese villagers 9,000 years ago—long before grape wine had its start in Mesopotamia.
University of Pennsylvania molecular archaeologist Patrick McGovern first described the beverage in 2005 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences based on chemical traces from pottery in the Neolithic village of Jiahu in Northern China. Soon after, McGovern called on Sam Calagione at the Dogfish Head Craft Brewery in Milton, Del., to do the ancient recipe justice. Later this month, you can give it a try when a new batch hits shelves across the country. The Beer Babe blog was impressed, writing that it is “very smooth,” and “not overly sweet.”
(Excerpt) Read more at scientificamerican.com ...
Hallelujah - we agree!
“not frozen, not thawed”
So what?
Oh, I get it: you are under the impression that I actually said what that other creep accused me of saying.
“You’re coming off like a nutter who imagines slagging something makes you a connoisseur...”
Yeah, a lot of people take offense at the truth, until they pull their heads out of their ketsuanas.
“Good, you recognize the problem, now you can get to work on it.”
Sorry, others have to pull their own heads out. Not my job.
“If by “some” you mean “almost none,” then you are on to something.”
By “some” I mean “some,” and that is simply a fact.
“At least in my neighborhood they do.”
It is not my fault if you haven’t seen Japanese people eating fish that is nowhere near fresh, and thinking it fresh. If you want to claim that you know a lot about Japan, perhaps you should broaden your horizons.
“Your point seemed to be, and after checking again seems to be, is that they don’t eat much fresh fish.”
No, it doesn’t. It doesn’t seem so at all.
“If you mean that some people eat himono as sushi, that’s just silly. It’s simply not served that way.”
Wrongola. Maybe you ought to look beyond your own neighborhood sometime.
“Yes, Japanese people eat quite a bit of dried fish (for one thing, they quite enjoy it), yes, fish in Japan isn’t always totally fresh.”
Well, then, your snide, insulting comments were totally groundless. You jumped in to a discussion that didn’t include you for the sole purpose of getting nasty with me for saying things you agree with.
“But yes, Japanese people eat a hell of a lot more very fresh fish”
A lot more than whom? I’m tired of arguing with someone who’d rather be right than search for the truth.
“And that, sourpuss, is the fact...”
Hey, you’re the one who picked this argument, unprovoked. And you’ve ended up agreeing with me on every point I made, except the one about finding himono on sushi.
With regard to that, since you think himono isn’t found on sushi, check the link I posted earlier. Then stop imagining how others see me, and consider how you’ve made yourself look.
Bye now.
“Now you’re saying that I agree with you. That must mean”
Tiresome. Very tiresome.
“Japanese people eat a lot more fresh fish than most any other people.”
Myth.
“But more of it is that fresh than most anywhere you can name.”
Most anywhere?
“And himono on sushi? Of course it’s a great big world. Your link offers up...no himono sushi.”
Those defective reading skills must cause you a lot of problems. Better look again.
Now, I’ve spent entirely enough time on someone who is more interested in making himself unpleasant than in discovering the truth. Off you go, now, and be sure to congratulate yourself with that special fervor that only ignorance can fuel.
My goodness, not one, but two notes to try and pull me back into the tar pit? As sour as I ever may be, I pray I never become as malicious as you.
“You are very unlikely to find an everyday grocery store in the US that has more or better fish for sale than the one right down the street from me.”
So, everyone in Japan shops at that same grocery store, and you have been to every fish market and grocery store in the U.S. That’s how we know that your experiences are indicative of the entirety of reality not just in those two countries, but the world.
“And you could walk into sushi bar after sushi bar after sushi bar and more without finding even one that serves “Himono” sushi (not shown anywhere at your link, btw).”
Here. And this is definitely the last of my precious time that I waste on you.
http://zhidao.baidu.com/question/62721374.html
http://unkar.jp/read/food8.2ch.net/sushi/1092909844
http://www.numazu-szo.ed.jp/kadoike-j/ed21/seika/bunkakai.pdf
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