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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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http://www.archive.org/stream/someeffectsofwar00wheerich/someeffectsofwar00wheerich_djvu.txt

SOME EFFECTS OF THE WAR UPON

THE SEED INDUSTRY OF THE

UNITED STATES

BY

W. A. WHEELER
Specialist in Seed Marketing

AND

G. C. EDLER

Investigator in Seed Marketing

Bureau of Markets

CONTENTS

More Seeds Will be Home Grown

Effect of the War Upon Imports and Exports

Domestic Demands for Seed

Influence of War on Seed Production

Seed Stocks

Effect of the War on Prices

Movement of Seeds

Local Problems of Wholesale and Retail Seedsmen

The Seed Reporting Service of the Bureau of Markets 20

[snipped]

Effects of the War U

During the war the exports of vegetable seeds and of some
field seeds, which in the past have been imported in larger
quantities than they have been exported, in the main greatly
exceeded the exports before the war, despite the fact that
many restrictions had to be placed on seed exports to con-
serve ocean tonnage, to insure a sufficient supply of seed at
home, and to guard against shipments billed to neutral
countries but ultimately meant for enemy countries. Un-
fortunately. export figures for field and vegetable seeck are
not available except somewhat incomplete figures for the
fiscal years ending July 1, 1917 and 1918. The exports of
vegetable seeds for these two fiscal years compared with the
anticipated exports for the fiscal year ending July 1, 1919,
as reported to the United States Bureau of Markets, by the
largest seed dealers indicate that a marked increase in the
exports of vegetable seeds has taken place during the war,
even at a time when our own domestic demand was greater
than ever before. Table 2 shows where the greatest gains
in vegetable seed exports were made.

DOMESTIC DEMANDS FOR SEED.

The war has had a far-reaching effect upon the domestic
demand for vegetable seed and certain kinds of field seed.
By means of the publicity given by the various agencies of
the Government and by seedsmen and periodicals to war
gardens, a greater demand for vegetable seed arose than was
ever before experienced. People in cities who had never
planted gardens were influenced to “ do their bit “ toward
solving the food problem by making gardens. While it is
true that in some localities the sales of seed to market gar-
deners decreased, this was more than offset by the small sales
to the vastly increased number of amateur gardeners.

In order to help feed the allies, the farmers of this coun-
try, spurred on by record prices, patriotically responded to
the appeal for more food crops by planting greater acreages
of wheat, corn, oats, rye, barley, etc., and, while conditions
were not always favorable, they succeeded in surpassing the
record production of many of these crops. Increased acre-
age, of course, meant an increased demand for seeds with
whirli to plant these crops, and a higher percentage of the

6

&. Department of Agriculture.

quantity of seed planted of wheat, corn, oats, and barley was
sold commercially in 1918 than in 1917, and probably than in
most of the years prior to the war. While it is true that a
comparatively small percentage of the seed of grain crops
is sold for planting purposes by commercial agencies, never-
theless this small percentage often is of the greatest im-
portance, and the seed dealers were quick to sense the in-
creased demand for seed grains.

TABLE 2. Vegetable seed exports for the United States.

continued.

1919 report


6,721 posted on 04/19/2009 11:38:30 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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WAR FOOD

Practical and Economical Methods of

Keeping Vegetables. Fruits

and Meats

AMY L. HANDY

BOSTON AOT) KEW TOHK
HOUGHTON SOFFLIN COMPANY

1917

HARVARD COLLEGE LitRARY

BEQUEST or

MRS. CHESTER N. GREENOUGH

SEPTEMBER 20, 1926

COPTRIOHT, I917, BT AMT L. BARmr
ALL mOIITS RBSBIIVXD

Publiskid July iQif

FOREWORD

If the women of the rural communities will
consider carefully how they can help, this
coming season, by utilizing the food that usu-
ally goes to waste, they will be surprised and
begin to think that it is they who are to feed
this poor old hungry and battered world.

The Government called a conference of

«

state agricultural officials and representa-
tives of the agricultural colleges to discuss the
food situation in the present national crisis.
In this conference they dealt with the whole
matter in four divisions, one of whidi con-
cerns us more than it does the men — Econ-
omy and Utilization.

There has been an impetus given to plant-
ing the home garden, and to be efficient it
must be followed up by careful harvesting
and the surplus stored or preserved in some
way for winter use, that it may contribute

i FOREWORD

its quota toward the help of human needs.
There is something radically wrong when a
rural community imports canned and dried
goods and we should use all our efforts to
combat this waste. We should bear in mind
that everything that is conserved for home
use releases just so mudi for the use of the
Government.

It is the duty of every housekeeper to study
the ways of storage and preservation of per-
ishable food and to see that all fruit and vege-
tables not eaten when fresh are saved in some
form for winter and spring use.

We do not eat enough fruit, and it b often
looked upon as a table luxury. Because of
its rather low nutritive value it is not esti-
mated at its true worth and its importance
is not appreciated. A dietician would tell us
that where the supply of fresh meat and fish
is limited, the stewed fruit is needed to bal-
ance the food allowance, and we know from
experience that it rounds out a very simple
meal into one that satisfies.

The living conditions in the home will be

FOREWORD vii

made better and cheaper by conserving these
fruits and vegetables that in years past have
gone to waste, and having them in a perma-
nent form for the family table. With a good
store of farm products in the cellar the meals
will never become monotonous. We must
not be discouraged by the high price of sugar
and the shortage of jars. Many people still
cling to the idea that sugar is necessary for
the preservation of fruit. This is not so. All
fruits are good put up without sugar and
sweetened when they are to be used. They
may be made into sauce or pies or cooked
down and used for jam.

It is very desirable to can the fruit juice
as it comes from the jelly bag and make it
into jelly a quart at a time as it is needed;
in this way it has a much fresher taste.

The later fruits and vegetables may be
dried and some of the vegetables salted. For
these no jars are needed and they are easily
stored.

Mr. Hoover says, “If we do not economize
in food-stuffs we stand a grave chance of los-

vin FOBEWORD

ing thb war. Our enemies are calculating that
America will fail in this and that our allies
will have to give in.” He also says: **Out of
our abundance have come many careless
customs that must be curbed or changed.
We must learn to imitate the race thrift of
the housewife of France, who has so ably
seconded the soldier members of her family
by home saving. . . • Local products must be
used instead of those from farther afield in
order to save transport and to encourage
local production.”

I hope that the following recipes will prove
helpful in canying out Mr. Hoover’s instruc-
tions.

Amy Littlefield Handt

Babnbtabub June 1917

CONTENTS

Dbting Fbxtitb and Vegetables ... 1

Vegetables, Dbied ob Evafobated . • 8

Fbuits, Dbied ob Evafobated • • • 14

Meat 20

The Wateb-Bath Method .... 24

Canned Vegetables 80

Canning without Sugab .... 40

Canning and Pbesebving with Sugab . 45

Jellies and Fbuit Pastes . ... 55

Salting 59

PlCKUNG 62

ViNEGAB 60

Miscellaneous 68

Index 71


6,722 posted on 04/19/2009 11:50:20 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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FRUIT AND BREAD.

A

SCIENTIFIC DIET.

BY

GUSTAV SCHLICKEYSEN.

Translated from the German,

BY

M. L. HOLBROOK, M.D.,

EDITOR or THE ** HEBAT.T> OV HEALTH/’ AUTHOB OF ** PABTUBITIOH

WITHOUT PAIN,” *’ EATING rOB BTBENQTH/’

‘^UVEB C01IFI.AINT,” ETC.

AVITH AN APPENDIX.

ILLUSTRATED,

DANSVILLE, N. Y.:

AUSTIN, JACKSON & CO.,

Publishers.

CoPTBianT,

M. L. nOLBROOK,

1877.

Charles P. Somerbt,

Pbikteb,
13» Eighth Street, N Y.

TABLE OF CONTENTS.

PART I.

Page.
The Anthropological Argument 7

PART II.
The Physiological Argument 107

PART III.

The Dietetic Argument 174

German and English Works quoted by the

Author 209

APPENDIX.

Dr. Jackson’s Letter 211

Napier’s Curb for Intemperance 218

Index 225

w

LIST OF ILLUSTRATIONS.

Figure. Page.

1. Teeth of the Horse 19

2. Teeth of the Gorilla 20

3. Teeth of the Hare 21

4. Teeth of the Wolf 23

5. Teeth of the Shrew-mouse 25

6. Teeth of the Swine 26

7. Teeth of Man (front view) 27

8. Teeth of Man (side view) ~ 27


6,723 posted on 04/20/2009 2:07:19 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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CAMP STOVES

AND

FIREPLACES

BY
A.D.TAYLOR, A.B., M.S.

Consulting Landscape Architect for the
United States Forest Service

PUBLISHED BY

Emergency Conservation Work
Robert Fechner, Director

PREPARED BY

The Forest Service
United States Department of Agriculture

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, WASHINGTON : 1937

For sale by the

SUPERINTENDENT OF DOCUMENTS

Washington, D. C.

Price $1.50 (Buckram)

[Talks about a wide variety of stove types....]


6,724 posted on 04/20/2009 2:26:27 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Nope... It is drying up - getting brittle. But, it is the one that I would have chosen to lose if I had to select one.<<<

I hate it when a plant dies.

The only thing that came to my mind, was to try wrapping it in copper wire........as they did for sick trees in India over 800 years ago.

You must have some copper wire around there, why not try it.

Rodale also did experiments and some tests show that the wire attracts [?] waves from the air to the trees and plants and that they do grow better.

Back in the thread, I posted something on it, but I don’t have any idea of where.

In the 1960’s I started taking the tops and bottoms out of food cans and slipping them over seedlings and down in the soil an inch or two, at the least it forms a barrier for cut worms.

If it really does attract the electro-magnetic waves, then it should help.........hey the price of the experiment is right, time and ‘stuff’ now on hand.


6,725 posted on 04/20/2009 2:37:44 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

>>>So we will have a bunch of teenagers to protect our banks.<<<

More likely putting in back door accesses...<<<

Yes, of course.

I was a little rankled, that they needed to resort to sending out a notice via Homeland Security for kids to solve their computer problems, what happened to all the liberal hotshots?

His “computer team” at the White House!!!

So many of his secret papers will be on the internet, that I will need to open a special file for them, as I will not know which are true and which are not.


6,726 posted on 04/20/2009 2:41:02 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I feel we have so many weaknesses for enemies to attack.<<<

No need to attack, just tell obama to get out, for they have taken over.

Just as hilary did.

My opinion of course.


6,727 posted on 04/20/2009 2:42:38 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Diversity Diet<<<

If I bought those foods here, there would certainly not be any money left for investing.

But then, there isn’t without the fancy food either.

But if someone wants to fix it and bring it to me, I will eat it.

Me, who is hungry and not in the kitchen mood....


6,728 posted on 04/20/2009 2:45:33 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>If it really does attract the electro-magnetic waves, then it should help.........hey the price of the experiment is right, time and ‘stuff’ now on hand.<<<

Will wrap today!


6,729 posted on 04/20/2009 3:54:56 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

12 Small Windmills Put To the Test In Holland

“A real-world test by the Dutch province of Zeeland (a very windy place) demonstrates that small windmills are a fundamentally flawed technology (PDF of tests results in Dutch, English summary). Twelve much-hyped micro wind turbines were placed in a row on an open plain. Their energy yield was measured over a period of one year (April 1, 2008 — March 31, 2009), the average wind velocity during these 12 months was 3.8 meters per second, slightly higher than average. Three windmills broke. The others recorded ridiculously low yields, in spite of the optimal conditions. It would take up to 141 small windmills to power an average American household entirely using wind energy, for a total cost of 780,000 dollars. The test results show clearly that energy return is closely tied to rotor diameter, and that the design of the windmill hardly matters.”

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/19/2022214


6,730 posted on 04/20/2009 4:05:50 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: DelaWhere

Interactive Map of Vanishing Employment Across The Country By County

http://www.slate.com/id/2216238/


6,731 posted on 04/20/2009 4:45:01 AM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: DelaWhere

Report: Small Business Plans Vs Optimism About

( As Harvard historian Niall Ferguson observed last week, “Only somebody who studies financial history could say, as I was trying to say, ‘Look, something as big as the liquidity crisis of 1914 or as big as the banking crisis of 1931 is imminent.’ We don’t really have a great many options here. If we stay the present course, you’re going to see the tailspin continue. To be effective, a large-scale restructuring of household indebtedness would need to be mandatory. The Great Depression was initially a U.S. financial crisis. But what made it a depression was its global contagion, and then the breakdown of trade and the retreat into protectionism. All of that can happen. All of that is in fact happening with terrifying speed.” )

Full Article here:

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/04/small-business-plans-vs-optimism-about.html

Good Morning Everyone !


6,732 posted on 04/20/2009 5:03:36 AM PDT by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Eagle50AE

>>>Map of Vanishing Employment<<<

Wow... Very interesting to track the 2+ year map...
Really turned South last few months!


6,733 posted on 04/20/2009 8:22:46 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: Eagle50AE

>>>If we stay the present course, you’re going to see the tailspin continue. To be effective, a large-scale restructuring of household indebtedness would need to be mandatory. The Great Depression was initially a U.S. financial crisis. But what made it a depression was its global contagion, and then the breakdown of trade and the retreat into protectionism. All of that can happen. All of that is in fact happening with terrifying speed.<<<

Always seemed strange to me that when a retailer finds products aren’t selling, he marks them down, even to the point of taking a bit of a loss to move it... Big banks, when faced with creditors who aren’t able to repay, they raise the rate, add penalties and make it next to impossible for them to be repaid... Strange logic indeed.

The spiral will surely accelerate... Until there is confidence in the system and confidence in the future, that slippery slope will accelerate downward.


6,734 posted on 04/20/2009 8:35:04 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Here's something to cheer you up Granny:

Spring means new baby goats

Posted: 09 Apr 2009 12:35 PM PDT


[Isn't he precious?? ---TAC]

We’ve been pretty busy the last two days. We planned on having our two does, Velvet (the mother of the triplet does last year) and Luna bred to kid about the same time in April, while the other two does, Buffy and Fawn, will kid in June. This ensures milk all year long and will let us raise all the babies on the milk from one doe of each pair…even if I have to bottle feed. That gives us plenty of house milk, too. A win-win situation!

Well, Saturday morning Luna acted like she was going to kid so I watched her. Sure enough, her hermit-like behavior soon turned to birthing. And she gave easy birth to twin bucklings, one white with black and tan and another red roan in front and red behind. Both are happy and healthy.

And yesterday, Velvet decided to repeat the performance, producing a nice red and white doeling and a huge solid red buck. I’m excited over her udder this year; it’s huge and so perfect! It’s like a basketball with teats sticking off the front. Wow!

Now all I have to do is find new owners for the three bucklings. They sure have some milking mamas.

Readers’ Questions:

Sodium in water supply
Love all your advice to all us newbies and to people of experience too. Seems you’ve done just about everything in the realm of homesteading.

My question has to do with sodium in our water supply. We live in Texas and our only source of water is a well. We had our garden soil tested and it showed high amounts of sodium, so we tested the water to find the source and sure enough that is where it is coming from. What should we do about it? I’ve been told that that can lock up nutrients in the soil that our plants can use.

James Gilliland
Mansfield, Texas

You can help your garden withstand the sodium in your water by working in a lot of well-rotted compost. The addition of gypsum to your soil (available at your local feed mill) will help tie up the sodium in the soil, making your plants much happier. You might consider catching rainwater to help out watering in the garden. It’s amazing at how much water is “wasted” on house and outbuilding roofs during even a moderate rain, which could be harvested and used to water the gardens! It’s something we are working out for the future. — Jackie

Canning hot dogs
I know you must be sick of hearing from me, but if only your book were published, I might be less trouble. At any rate, could you give me instructions as how to can hot dogs? I have a surplus of venison hot dogs that were given to me. I would like to get them out of the freezer, as my husband and I are planning our homestead move this fall (yes, I’m aware it’s not the best time to move, but it’s when it happened). Thanks so much. Oh, one more thing, is there a way to preorder your book?

Mandi Kemp
Felton, Delaware

Hot dogs really don’t can up too awfully well, but they do come out edible! I’ve started to pre-brown mine; I put them up heated through in boiling water and during canning, they swelled so much they didn’t look nice. Now I pre-brown them by lightly frying in a bit of oil to just heat through. Then they are packed into wide mouth pint jars, leaving 1″ of headspace. I process them without added liquid for 75 minutes.

A bad time to make a move to a homestead? I suppose it’s not ideal, but hey, we moved here to a raw homestead in FEBRUARY, when it was -20 degrees with three feet of snow on the ground! And we lived to tell the tale.

Sorry, so far I don’t know of a way to pre-order the book, but have hope. It should be available pretty soon now! — Jackie

Pickled eggs
Years ago, mom used to have “pickled eggs” in a gallon jar in her small store for sale. When the jar was empty see made more. I have searched everywhere for a recipe for it. No luck. My grandmother made these and has been dead many years; mom was never into canning, so she doesn’t remember. I went on internet, found some but weren’t what we had. They didn’t keep at all. In fact in two days they had turned black, ugh. Any help would be appreciated.

Brenda Starling
Warm Springs, Arkansas

Here’s a recipe for you to try; it’s best to keep pickled eggs refrigerated as there is a possibility of picking up bacterial contamination if left at room temperature; sometimes a part of an egg can poke above the surface of the vinegar brine.

12 eggs, hard boiled, peeled and rinsed.
1 cup vinegar
1/4 cup water
2 Tbsp. sugar
1 Tbsp. salt
1 tsp. mixed pickling spices

Pack hot hard boiled eggs into a wide mouth canning jar. Boil 1 cup vinegar, 1/4 cup water, 2 Tbsp. sugar, 1 Tbsp. salt with 1 tsp. mixed pickling spices. Pour over eggs, covering them entirely. Place lid on jar and refrigerate for a week or two to let flavor develop. Keep refrigerated for safety and enjoy! — Jackie

Canning book I am waiting for you to write a book on canning and preserving food. I wait for every issue just for your article. You such good recipes on food, I have already purchased the cookbook and love it. keep up the great articles.

Delma Pearce
Oakland, Illinois

The good news is that I just finished a book for Backwoods Home on growing and canning your own food. The last touches are being done and it should go to the printer pretty soon. Keep watching the blog and magazine and you’ll see the announcement of its arrival. — Jackie Storing food in metal containers

I read in a back to basics book that you shouldn’t store dried food in metal containers. I really like your idea about using the cookie tins for food storage and it has been working out just fine. Question is: The tin is just the right size for storage of my dried bananas, am I going to poison someone?

Edna Hawks
Boise, Idaho

I never heard that one before. I do and I’m still alive. I suppose that condensation could possibly cause dampness on a metal can. But on the other hand, the tin will sure keep dry foods dry. I keep some of my dry foods in the popcorn tins, others in gallon and half gallon jars. The main thing is to keep moisture away from the foods and keep them bug and rodent-safe. — Jackie

Asiago cheese recipe
You recently stated you make Asiago cheese from your goat milk. Would you be willing to share this recipe? Haven’t been able to find one.

Brad and Rhona Barrie
Strong, Maine

Asiago cheese is a little more fussy than many, but definitely do-able. Here’s the recipe I use:

1 gal milk
1/4 tsp Thermophilic DVI type C culture
1 Junket rennet tablet
cheese salt

1. Let fresh milk warm to room temperature
2. Slowly heat to 90-92 degrees, over 20 minutes
3. Add starter and let stand 30-45 minutes
4. Crush rennet tablet in small amount of milk and add to warmed milk
5. Wait about an hour till curds break clean over your finger
6. Cut curds into 1/2″ pieces
7. Slowly heat curds and whey about 20 minutes while stirring, until they reach 104 degrees
8. Hold at 104 degrees for 15-20 minutes until curds no longer stick together
9 Slowly heat to 116-118 degrees (during 20 minutes time)
10 Cook at 116-118 degrees until curd is firm and easy to rub apart
11 Let curds settle to bottom of pot for 20 minutes
12 Drain through a doubled cheesecloth a few minutes
13 Place in cheese press and press firmly for 1 hour, until wheels are formed
14 Take out of press, remove cloth. Replace with clean cloth that has been dipped in a mild salt brine. Press again.
15 Turn wheels of cheese 2 times and leave in press overnight at room temperature
16 The next morning, remove from press and brine at 50-55 degrees. After 24 hours, brine the wheels for 4-5 hours per pound of cheese, longer.
17 Turn cheeses in brine once per day. Sprinkle dry salt on tops. Remove from brine.
Age at 55-59 degrees and 85 relative humidity with moderate ventilation (I put mine in a screened box on a pantry shelf with the window outside the pantry slightly open in the warmer months.)
Rub salt on rind every 3-4 days, turning cheeses each time. I age my cheeses on a dowel rack so they can get air both under and around the wheels. The turning ensures that they don’t get too damp inside on the bottom half of the cheese. This can lead to spoilage.

Good luck with your cheesemaking! — Jackie

Donkeys on the homestead
Love seeing the photo of Moose and Beauty, can you relay the benefits of donkeys on the homestead?

Joanna Wilcox
Boone, North Carolina

Well, they’re cuddly, have personality plus…Okay, that’s not usefulness, is it? Well, yes and no. But seriously, they make good guardians for sheep or goats and will attack predators. They can be trained to drive and pack; we will be using ours to pull small logs out of our woods; they fit where larger horses won’t. Their manure is a huge bonus. We never get enough manure it seems! We are going to train ours to drive singly and double, to use on a small wagon and cart. If gas prices zoom back up, we just might be using them to drive to town for supplies. What a political statement! — Jackie

Starting Over
I just finished reading your book “Starting Over” and I thought it was fantastic. Is there going to be another one someday? I would really like to be as self-reliant as you are, but until we can get our own land, we’re doing the best we can with growing our veggies and some fruit trees and bushes. I’m going to have to re-read your book because I want to try a couple of the recipes. Anyway, you are a great inspiration.

Georgia Trathen
Glasgow, Montana

Thanks for the praise. I’m not sure if there will be another Starting Over; you’d have to talk to Dave about that. He’s the guy who makes those decisions. It’s great that you are being as self-reliant as you can; few people can make it ALL the way, but I figure that the more we CAN do for ourselves, the further down the road we are. Congratulations! — Jackie

Dairy goats
I am new at raising dairy goats and have a question about taming them for milking (I have your excellent book on dairy goats, but it doesn’t mention this aspect). My La Mancha doe kidded about four weeks ago and is producing sufficient milk for her kids–they’re healthy and happy. The previous owners said she was a 4H goat; she’s very tame and sweet, but she won’t let me touch her udder. She freaks out when I try to milk her or even get her used to me by my touching her udder. She has never been milked before, as she’s only 18 months old, and this is her first freshening. I am planning to build or buy a milking stand in the next couple of weeks, but I’m afraid she will be so upset by my trying to milk her that it’s going to be a very difficult task and she’ll jump around and hurt herself in the stanchion. I’m very anxious to begin milking her for cheese and milk, but I’m not sure how to start with a first-time freshened doe. Can you advise on how to get her used to being milked?

Dallen Timothy
Gilbert, Arizona

A lot of first fresheners are antsy about being milked. Get your milking stanchion built as soon as possible and locate it next to a solid wall. At first, just feed her in it. Then brush her several times in it until she relaxes. Slowly switch brushing to stroking her sides, hips and belly; udder (not teats) if you can. If she still is kicky, shove your head into her flank with her firmly fastened in the stanchion and grab her teats gently but firmly and begin milking. By holding your head into her flank, and NOT letting go of her teats, she will slowly figure out that you ARE going to milk her and she will stop thrashing around.

By letting go when she jumps and kicks, she is training you to leave her alone! You won’t hurt her by being persistent, and you’ll soon have her standing well. Be sure to always have feed for her while she is being milked to distract her. When the feed is gone you’ll have more trouble. I know this behavior is frustrating, but with patience and persistence, you can overcome it.

If nothing seems to work, have an experienced goat breeder come over a couple times to milk for you. Often just a time or two will settle her down. And you can watch an expert to see just how it all works. Just think of all the milk, cheese, ice cream, etc. you’ll soon have! — Jackie

6,735 posted on 04/20/2009 9:09:10 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

LOL Glad to see another Jackie Clay reader...

I really enjoy reading her newsletters and articles. Nothing like those hundreds of other writers who only heard of things - never done them... Nothing like first hand experience.


6,736 posted on 04/20/2009 9:32:30 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: Eagle50AE

Obama and Congress Poised to End Tax-Free Internet Shopping

Posted on 20 April 2009


Obama’s promised not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000. Earlier this month that pledge went up in smoke by  tripling the taxes on cigarettes. Smokers were outraged.

But the government still needs more money to pay for all the spending and budget deficits.

Feds to Tax the Web to Bolster State Revenues

Now Congress and Obama have their eyes on the Internet to help fund more government spending — because most U.S. States are pushing for the new tax rules that require federal oversight — and Washington is ready and willing to help.  Congress is expected to introduce a bill this week that would require Amazon.com, L.L. Bean, eBay, Cabela’s and other online merchants to collect sales tax on all online purchases and return that money to the state in which the purchaser resides — which may force business that make sales online to abide by the tax laws maintained by each and every state.

The new bill rewrites the ground rules for mail order and Internet sales by eliminating what its supporters view as a “loophole” that, in many cases, allows Americans to shop over the Internet without paying sales taxes.

Currently, Americans who shop over the Internet from out-of-state vendors aren’t always required to pay sales taxes at the time of purchase. Californians buying books from Amazon.com or cameras from Manhattan’s B&H Photo, for example, won’t pay sales taxes at checkout time that they would if shopping at a local mall because their headquarters are located out-of-state.

“We will have the bill ready for introduction by next Monday,” said Neal Osten of the National Conference of State Legislatures. “We finalized the language and now we’re working out the remaining issues and adding some new provisions at the request of various stakeholders.”

The final legislation is expected to be introduced by Rep. Bill Delahunt, a Massachusetts Democrat, who has championed similar proposals in the past. Delahunt’s office on Wednesday confirmed he was interested.

President Obama is a strong ally of the new tax laws and is expected to sign them into law. Internet companies like Amazon.com, eBay and Google are outraged. Until now, they have remained recession proof by offering products at lower prices than comparable brick and mortar stores.

This is because congress has been unsuccessful in enacting Internet tax laws for at least seven years. They have argued that reduced sales tax revenue threatens budgets for schools and police, and say that, as a matter of fairness, online retailers should be forced to collect the same taxes that brick-and-mortar retailers do.

While these arguments have been unsuccessful so far, the National Conference of State Legislatures and its allies believe the recession has sliced into sales tax revenue so much that Congress will have to act. In addition, Obama is said to support this legislation, along with a broad coalition of Democrats in congress. A report this week from the Rockefeller Institute says that sales taxes have declined by 6.1 percent, the largest decline in half a century. 

For those used to buying $.99 iTunes or other more tangible items, this will be an immediate price hike. Californians, for example, will pay an extra 7.25%. We’ll see when the bill is introduced it if also included local sales taxes, which can bump this up to 10% or more for most of us.

A song on iTunes: 0.99 cents.
New sales tax: 0.10 cents.
Total cost: $1.09.

Sharp 52? LCD-TV: $1,415.99 .
New sales tax:  $141.60.
Total cost: $1 557.59.

Online bargain hunters, be forewarned: Expect change.

http://www.butasforme.com/2009/04/20/obama-and-congress-poised-to-end-tax-free-internet-shopping/

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Well, since Zero can't seem to spend us out of a depression, maybe he thinks he can tax us out of one..... Oh, maybe he thinks if he does both.......

DW

6,737 posted on 04/20/2009 10:44:18 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: Eagle50AE; nw_arizona_granny; TenthAmendmentChampion; All

STRESS TEST RESULTS LEAKED

If the report below is true, the government will never reveal the result. They will cover it up and pour more of your tax dollars into these reckless banks. I urge everyone to withdraw any funds you have in any bank that has accepted TARP. There are 8,400 other banks that didn't make reckless loans and accept TARP. Reward them with your deposits.

 
 

Sunday, April 19, 2009

LEAKED! Bank Stress Test Reults !

 
The Turner Radio Network has obtained "stress test" results for the top 19 Banks in the USA.

The stress tests were conducted to determine how well, if at all, the top 19 banks in the USA could withstand further or future economic hardship.

When the tests were completed, regulators within the Treasury and inside the Federal Reserve began bickering with each other as to whether or not the test results should be made public. That bickering continues to this very day as evidenced by this "main stream media" report.

The Turner Radio Network has obtained the stress test results. They are very bad. The most salient points from the stress tests appear below.

1) Of the top nineteen (19) banks in the nation, sixteen (16) are already technically insolvent.

2) Of the 16 banks that are already technically insolvent, not even one can withstand any disruption of cash flow at all or any further deterioration in non-paying loans.

3) If any two of the 16 insolvent banks go under, they will totally wipe out all remaining FDIC insurance funding.

4) Of the top 19 banks in the nation, the top five (5) largest banks are under capitalized so dangerously, there is serious doubt about their ability to continue as ongoing businesses.

5) Five large U.S. banks have credit exposure related to their derivatives trading that exceeds their capital, with four in particular - JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, HSBC Bank America and Citibank - taking especially large risks.

6) Bank of America`s total credit exposure to derivatives was 179 percent of its risk-based capital; Citibank`s was 278 percent; JPMorgan Chase`s, 382 percent; and HSBC America`s, 550 percent. It gets even worse: Goldman Sachs began reporting as a commercial bank, revealing an alarming total credit exposure of 1,056 percent, or more than ten times its capital!

7) Not only are there serious questions about whether or not JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs,Citibank, Wells Fargo, Sun Trust Bank, HSBC Bank USA, can continue in business, more than 1,800 regional and smaller institutions are at risk of failure despite government bailouts!

The debt crisis is much greater than the government has reported. The FDIC`s "Problem List" of troubled banks includes 252 institutions with assets of $159 billion. 1,816 banks and thrifts are at risk of failure, with total assets of $4.67 trillion, compared to 1,568 institutions, with $2.32 trillion in total assets in prior quarter.

Put bluntly, the entire US Banking System is in complete and total collapse.
Bonifides

For those who may be skeptical about the veracity of the stress test report above, be reminded that only last Sunday, April 12, this radio network obtained and published a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Memo outlining their concerns that returning US military vets posed a domestic security threat as "right wing extremists." That memo, available here, is marked "FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY" and contained strict warnings that it was not to be released to the public or to the media. We obtained it and published it days before other media outlets.

Details of certain aspects of the stress test reported above have now been CONFIRMED through REUTERS News service when they disclosed the risk-capital percentages publicly on April 6, 2009 at this link

Further, todays Wall Street Journal (April 20, 2009) is confirming at this link that lending by the largest banks has DECREASED 23% since the government began the T.A.R.P. program, causing many in Congress to ask where the money has actually been going. Apparently, it has been going into propping-up the failing banks instead of out in loans to the public.

Additional details and proofs are forthcoming. . . . . continue to check back on this developing story.

http://theburningplatform.com/groups/quinns-daily-dose-of-reality/discussions/stress-test-results-leaked

6,738 posted on 04/20/2009 11:33:53 AM PDT by DelaWhere ("Without power over our own food, any notion of democracy is empty." - Frances Moore Lappe)
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To: DelaWhere

Thank you. I posted this as a thread but it got pulled.


6,739 posted on 04/20/2009 11:34:41 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: All

http://www.archive.org/stream/comradesstoryofs00dixorich/comradesstoryofs00dixorich_djvu.txt

COMRADES

A Story of Social Adventure
in California

By

THOMAS DIXON, JR.

Illustrated by

C. D. WILLIAMS

New York

Doubleday, Page & Company
1909

[1909 and the author was attempting to tell the story of the country today.

I couldn’t stop reading and did most of it with a smile, for the story is told with hidden humor.

I find the truth, to be what I expected and am glad this Author attempted to shed the light of truth on communism a hundred years ago.
granny]


6,740 posted on 04/20/2009 12:42:09 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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