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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: DelaWhere; CottonBall; All

I don’t know if this has already been posted on this thread (I’m still behind, but gaining).

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2195759/posts


3,141 posted on 02/27/2009 2:45:36 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade; Diana in Wisconsin

I forgot to ping you, as I posted a link to your thread.


3,142 posted on 02/27/2009 2:48:42 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: Marmolade

Thank you! :)


3,143 posted on 02/27/2009 2:55:34 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: DelaWhere
... I have a bag of old silver dollars too.

Excellent! I'm glad to know you have some backup cash in case dollars are devalued.

Hmmm, $25,000 will get you a nice tractor with backhoe and loader

Men! Hubby just got himself a cute little tractor and added a loader and then welder some .... dunno what to call it .... teeth type things and an arm to hold a log or something that's outside the loader in place. It was used and nowhere near $25,000! But the enjoyment he gets with that thing is worth any price. It was in the garage - taking the place of my car - for a long time!

I like your stories. (Does corn really grow in even numbers of rows?)
3,144 posted on 02/27/2009 3:01:32 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Marmolade; DelaWhere

Thanks for the link, Marmolade. It takes a lot to keep up with all the gems on this thread, doesn’t it?

I got to read this article now - sounds just like what GG was telling us about w/r our food supply. Scary!


3,145 posted on 02/27/2009 3:02:53 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You are welcome to stay and visit a while. :)


3,146 posted on 02/27/2009 3:04:24 PM PST by Marmolade
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Thanks granny, unlesss I can find someone to build that for me I doubt I can manage that. lol Thanks for the ping.

Walgreens has 5 seed packets for $1.00 this week. Limit 10 Lot of veggies and flowers too. :)


3,147 posted on 02/27/2009 3:08:55 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
2. If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. — Mark Twain

And even more true today.
3,148 posted on 02/27/2009 3:10:02 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: DelaWhere

I have to try the peach jam recipe. And if I feel brave, try canning it as well...


3,149 posted on 02/27/2009 3:15:06 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

This recipe bears repeating.............from your link :)

Butternut Squash Risotto
From Ina Garten’s “Barefoot Contessa Family Style”

Yield: 4 to 6 servings

* 1 butternut squash (2 pounds)
* 2 tablespoons olive oil
* Kosher salt and freshly ground black pepper
* 6 cups chicken stock, preferably homemade
* 6 tablespoons (3/4 stick) unsalted butter
* 2 ounces pancetta, diced
* 1/2 cup minced shallots (2 large)
* 1 1/2 cups Arborio rice (10 ounces)
* 1/2 cup dry white wine
* 1 teaspoon saffron threads
* 1 cup freshly grated Parmesan

Preheat the oven to 400 degrees F. Peel the butternut squash, remove the seeds, and cut it into 3/4-inch cubes. You should have about 6 cups. Place the squash on a sheet pan and toss it with the olive oil, 1 teaspoon salt, and 1/2 teaspoon pepper. Roast for 25 to 30 minutes, tossing once, until very tender. Set aside.

Meanwhile, heat the chicken stock in a small covered saucepan. Leave it on low heat to simmer.

In a heavy-bottomed pot or Dutch oven, melt the butter and saute the pancetta and shallots on medium-low heat for 10 minutes, until the shallots are translucent but not browned. Add the rice and stir to coat the grains with butter. Add the wine and cook for 2 minutes. Add 2 full ladles of stock to the rice plus the saffron, 1 teaspoon salt, and 1/2 teaspoon pepper. Stir, and simmer until the stock is absorbed, 5 to 10 minutes. Continue to add the stock, 2 ladles at a time, stirring every few minutes. Each time, cook until the mixture seems a little dry, then add more stock. Continue until the rice is cooked through, but still al dente, about 30 minutes total. Off the heat, add the roasted squash cubes and Parmesan. Mix well and serve.


3,150 posted on 02/27/2009 3:18:29 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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[If they can grow pot underground, we should be able to grow food underground....Article also says grow in Semi Truck Trailers, good idea, haul your garden with you and always have food....true survival...

I am not sure if this struck me as funny, or a good idea..
granny]

Has photos:

http://www.nbc-2.com/articles/readarticle.asp?articleid=26541&z=3

Underground grow house discovered

HENDRY COUNTY: Firefighters stumbled on a grow house while containing a 400 acre brush fire in Hendry County.

Authorities say they found the marijuana grow house under a structure on a tree farm near the area of Christopher Lane and Pioneer Plantation.

continued.


3,151 posted on 02/27/2009 3:20:13 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

>>>Does corn really grow in even numbers of rows?<<<

Yep, just like people generally have 2 eyes, ears, etc.
It would be like betting that the next person you see will have 2 ears...

Don’t try it with shoepeg corn as they are so jumbled that you can’t tell...


3,152 posted on 02/27/2009 3:20:58 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: DelaWhere
Since I am using my own home grown grain...

Wow - I missed that the first time I read this post.

How many acres do you have? I guess more to the point, how many acres do you think 2 people would need to grow/raise everything they need?
3,153 posted on 02/27/2009 3:21:23 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: WestCoastGal

yummmmm. I love risotto. And butternut squash. May as well combine them!


3,154 posted on 02/27/2009 3:22:34 PM PST by CottonBall
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News from CPSC
U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
Office of Information and Public Affairs
Washington, DC 20207

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 26, 2009
Release # 09-135

Firm’s Recall Hotline: (877) 774-6208
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

Salsa Bicycles Recalls Bicycles; Handlebar Stems Can Break Causing Rider to Fall

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of product: Handlebar Stems Used on Salsa Bicycles

Units: About 8,600

Importer: Salsa Bicycles, a subsidiary of Quality Bicycle Products, of Bloomington, Minn.

Hazard: The handlebar stems can crack or break, posing a fall hazard to the consumer.

Incidents/Injuries: Salsa Bicycles has received three reports of handlebar stems breaking. One incident resulted in a rider suffering a broken wrist.

Description: This recall involves all CroMoto S.U.L. stems sold as individual aftermarket units and on these models of complete Salsa bicycles: Ala Carte, El Mariachi, Casseroll Triple, Casseroll Single and La Cruz. The aftermarket stems are black and have the word “Salsa” painted on the extension. The complete bike stems are painted to match the bike model color and have the word “Salsa” painted on the extension. The recalled stems range from 75 through 105-degree rise and extension length from 90 to 120mm. Please visit the firm’s web site at www.salsacromotostem.com for a complete list of model numbers and names included in this recall.

Sold by: Specialty bicycle retailers nationwide from November 2007 through December 2008 for between $880 and $1870 for complete bikes. The aftermarket stems were sold at specialty bicycle retailers nationwide and via web sites from March 2008 through December 2008 for between $60 and $65.

Manufactured in: Taiwan

Remedy: Consumers should stop riding these bicycles immediately and contact an authorized Salsa Bicycles dealer for a free inspection and replacement stem.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, contact Salsa Bicycles toll-free at (877) 774-6208 between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. CT Monday through Friday, or visit the firm’s Web site at www.salsacromotostem.com

To see this recall on CPSC’s web site, including pictures of the recall product, please go to: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09135.html


3,155 posted on 02/27/2009 3:22:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

Wait - perhaps that was silly to say. Does jam need to be canned in order to .... jell or whatever it is?


3,156 posted on 02/27/2009 3:23:30 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

Just about a perfect combination :)

Need to go to grocery store.


3,157 posted on 02/27/2009 3:24:43 PM PST by WestCoastGal (If he wants to come by the bus after the race and get his a$$ whooped, I'll do it. - Dale Jr)
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To: WestCoastGal

Me too. I always have risott on hand, but need to get the squash. It’s on my list for when I go next week! I just hope I can find your post then. By then, this thread will have .... lots more posts!


3,158 posted on 02/27/2009 3:26:48 PM PST by CottonBall
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Thomas McGinn’s Testimony on Protecting Animal and Public Health
Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:00:00 -0600

Tom McGinn, Chief Veterinarian for the Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Health Affairs, discusses issues associated with the Federal veterinary workforce leading up to and during catastrophic incidents.

Long and interesting read....

http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/testimony/testimony_1235750352042.shtm

Conclusion:

Chairman Akaka, Ranking Member Voinovich, and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you again for this opportunity to speak to you concerning the veterinary workforce within the Department of Homeland Security. I have made several recommendations to help reduce the veterinary shortage within the U.S. Government and I would like to take this opportunity to emphasize to this committee that a natural or intentional biological incident can quickly transition to a catastrophic incident. Veterinarians provide a critical capability to prepare, protect, respond, and recover from catastrophic incidents in our Nation. I urge this committee to take action to address the veterinary shortage now by requesting a veterinary workforce needs assessment, before a catastrophic incident occurs.

This page was last reviewed/modified on February 26, 2009.


3,159 posted on 02/27/2009 3:43:41 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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California’s jobless rate hit 10.1 percent in January
California’s unemployment rate jumped to 10.1 percent in January, the state’s first double-digit jobless reading in a quarter-century.
Read More

http://www.sacbee.com/1089/story/1658995.html


3,160 posted on 02/27/2009 3:49:11 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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