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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: nw_arizona_granny; TenthAmendmentChampion

Thank you! He said it’s “time to move on” with those big tools...they’re just gathering dust out there...


2,681 posted on 02/24/2009 9:09:22 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I bet the pressure was put on people to use proper formatting. Much like how the grammar and spelling police are out now...


2,682 posted on 02/24/2009 9:12:12 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

It reminds me of the PaperbackSwap, SwapCD and SwapDVD sites. At first I thought it was a labor barter site.

I will check it out a little more later on.<<<

I thought it might interest some with youngsters....

LOL, I don’t do CD’s, still use a Cassette player or a regular record player, which quit working.


2,683 posted on 02/24/2009 9:15:19 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
And I suspect that it is what was in our tomatoes and spinach and lots of the hamburger meat.

That's what my husband said at the time.

2,684 posted on 02/24/2009 9:17:43 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Brad's Gramma; WestCoastGal; CottonBall

They’re all Craftsmen tools...table saw, radial arm saw, drill press, *sniff* my band saw, um...I know there’s more...ya don’t REALLY want me to crawl thru the mess in the garage, now, do you? :)<<<

Looks interesting, lets see what some that are connected to California can do with them.

The tools are in Orange county, Calif.

I know my husband liked his Craftsmen tools.<<<

Repost, for I forgot to put the other names on it.

Brad’s Gramma has them for sale.


2,685 posted on 02/24/2009 9:18:06 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: steve0

hmmm, I wouldn’t know how but would be willing to share in the duties. Sounds intriguing.


2,686 posted on 02/24/2009 9:18:33 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I’d love to have them for my husband, but we are in savings mode right now. We have a house payment to catch up on this month.


2,687 posted on 02/24/2009 9:20:02 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

That’s what my husband said at the time.<<<

Your husband is a wise man.

A nice one too, if he builds you a greenhouse.

[Joking]


2,688 posted on 02/24/2009 9:21:10 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Oh man....I’m sorry to hear that...I wish you the best!


2,689 posted on 02/24/2009 9:21:46 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Brad's Gramma

Let me tell my hubby - he thinks power tools are what’s meant by the ‘pursuit of happiness’.


2,690 posted on 02/24/2009 9:23:00 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

but we are in savings mode right now.<<<

Good idea, thought you might know someone who needed them.

Good for building flower pots and greenhouses.


2,691 posted on 02/24/2009 9:23:47 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

LOL!!!!!


2,692 posted on 02/24/2009 9:25:50 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: CottonBall

what’s meant by the ‘pursuit of happiness’.<<<

It is how men prove they are men.

More and bigger tools, mechanics, carpenters or chef’s, men want the right tools for the job.

LOL, and it gives us something to shop for.


2,693 posted on 02/24/2009 9:26:38 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
More and bigger tools, mechanics, carpenters or chef’s, men want the right tools for the job.

LOL - true. And I just got a camera because it was cute, little, cheap, and PINK! I have no idea if it takes good pictures....
2,694 posted on 02/24/2009 9:29:19 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

>>>Let me tell my hubby - he thinks power tools are what’s meant by the ‘pursuit of happiness’.<<<

Ahhh, He is a very wise man indeed!!!

LOL I’m sure that’s exactly what you wanted to hear.

Actually, men don’t just see tools, we see what we can use them for.... Even if we never get around to actually doing it...


2,695 posted on 02/24/2009 9:36:05 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: DelaWhere
LOL I’m sure that’s exactly what you wanted to hear.

It's exactly what I'd expect. You guys tend to band together. ;) Actually, men don’t just see tools, we see what we can use them for.... Even if we never get around to actually doing it...

I guess that's why we have a garage-full. He has a lot of visions! (Actually, he's has fixed or made quite a lot of things. Saved us a lot of money. I don't know if it was as much as what was spent on the tools, but you can't put a price on happiness!)
2,696 posted on 02/24/2009 9:42:03 PM PST by CottonBall
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To: All

http://kalynskitchen.blogspot.com/2009/02/bread-machine-recipe-for-100-whole.html

Bread Machine Recipe for 100% Whole Wheat Bread with Oats, Bran, and Flax Seed

Bread Machine Whole Wheat Bread I’ve spent the last few weeks on a quest to create South Beach Diet friendly bread using my Oster Bread Machine, and I finally have a recipe to share! Previously I’ve made South Beach friendly bread in the bread machine using a mix, but this time I wanted to make bread from scratch using all whole wheat flour, very minimal sugar, and a fair amount of fiber. The bread you see above is the winning recipe, after seven earlier versions and a lot of helpful suggestions from bloggers, relatives, and a parent from school!

My bread recipe started with white whole wheat flour, which is a whole grain flour made from a white variety of wheat. This flour can be substituted for white flour in many recipes. (Read more about White Whole Wheat flour on the King Arthur Flour site.)

You can use whole oatmeal, but I like the flavor of oats but not the look of oatmeal flakes in the bread, so I grind oatmeal in the food processor. (I keep this in the freezer and often use it in recipes instead of bread crumbs.)

Follow directions for your bread machine, but in my machine you add the liquid ingredients first. I combined the lukewarm water, agave nectar, olive oil, and a tiny bit of brown sugar before I put it in the machine. (I use the measuring spoon to stir, eliminating the need to dirty another spoon.)

I mixed white whole wheat flour, ground oatmeal, wheat bran, flaxseed meal, vital wheat gluten, dough enhancer, and salt in advance, so it was ready to pour in as soon as I added the liquid.

When you make bread in a machine, you need to watch during the first mixing and make sure the bread forms a ball like this. Depending on the humidity where you live, you may need to add more water or flour (one tablespoon at a time) during this initial mixing.

Bread Machine Recipe for 100% Whole Wheat Bread with Oats, Bran, and Flaxseed Meal
(Makes one loaf, about 1.5 pounds, recipe created by Kalyn.)

Dry ingredients - Mix in bowl:
2 cups White Whole Wheat Flour
1 cup ground rolled oats (oatmeal ground in a food processor, or use 1 cup whole oatmeal)
1/3 cup wheat bran
2 T flaxseed meal
2 T vital wheat gluten
1 T dough enhancer
1 tsp. salt

Wet Ingredients and sweeteners - Mix in measuring cup:
1 1/3 cup lukewarm water
1 T olive oil
1 T agave nectar
2 tsp. brown sugar

2 tsp. yeast (I used Red Star Active Dry Yeast, not a special yeast for bread machines.)

Follow directions for your bread machine. In my Oster Bread Machine I put the liquid in first, followed by the dry ingredients I mixed in the bowl. Then I make a small well in the flour and put the yeast in that. I used the whole wheat setting on the machine.

Watch bread while it goes through the first mixing cycle, and if it doesn’t form a ball you may need to add either more flour or water, 1 tablespoon at a time. The dough should make a firm ball and be only slightly sticky.

If you’re going to be taking photos of the bread for your food blog, you may want to take the dough out of the machine right before the final rise and gently fold sides under to make a loaf with a smooth top. When I didn’t do that, I still had a tasty bread but the top wasn’t as well-shaped.

My bread machine takes 3 hours 40 minutes for the whole wheat cycle. Bread is delicious hot or cold, and also makes great toast.

South Beach Suggestions:
Bread like this with 100% whole wheat flour and other whole grains is a great choice for phase 2 or 3 of the South Beach Diet. I wrote an earlier post on Choosing the Right Bread for the South Beach Diet, which might be informative.

More Bread Recipes with White Whole Wheat Flour:
(Recipes from other blogs may not always be South Beach Diet friendly; check ingredients.)
White Whole Wheat and Oatmeal Irish Soda Bread from Kalyn’s Kitchen
100% Whole Wheat and Bran Bread from Kalyn’s Kitchen
No Knead 100% Whole Wheat Bread from Su Good Sweets
Whole Grain Sesame Flaxseed Bread from Apple Pie Patis and Pate
Favorite 100% Whole Wheat Bread from Cooking for Seven
(Want even more white whole wheat recipes? I find these recipes from other blogs using Food Blog Search.)

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2,697 posted on 02/24/2009 9:49:01 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall; DelaWhere

I don’t know if it was as much as what was spent on the tools, but you can’t put a price on happiness!) <<<<

I once had a sister in law who was jealous of my brothers tools and his working in his garage, LOL, just as his father did.

She ragged on him and anyone that would listen about it and I finally told her, “If you want him to stay out of the bar, let him play in the garage.”

She didn’t, and then she was upset over the bar and upset when the divorce came. But still bitching about the tools all the way to the lawyer..........


2,698 posted on 02/24/2009 9:58:03 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

And I just got a camera because it was cute, little, cheap, and PINK! I have no idea if it takes good pictures....<<<

I knew you reminded me of my favorite sister, if it is pink or lavender, that is all she sees.

LOL, I only see red and turquoise.


2,699 posted on 02/24/2009 9:59:20 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://kalynskitchen.blogspot.com/2008/09/south-beach-suggestions-south-beach.html

Recipe for Chicken and Shredded Cabbage Salad with Mustard and Celery Seed

Chicken Cabbage Salad If you come to my house and peer into the veggie crisper, you’d find green and red cabbage in there at least 90% of the time. I love the taste of raw cabbage, and this type of cabbage salad is something I never get tired of eating. How handy that cabbage is a cruciferous vegetable, and therefore deemed one of the world’s healthiest foods! Chicken and cabbage salad is also a great way to use leftover rotisserie chicken if you’re like me and just have to buy those roasted chickens at Costco. The celery seeds in this are something my mother always put in coleslaw, and I always think of her whenever I use them. They’re possibly an ingredient that not everyone has in the spice rack, but they’re not expensive, and I think they add a lot to this type of salad.

Make the dressing by combining mayo, lemon juice, Dijon mustard, celery seed, onion powder, and salt or Vege-Sal.

Then dice chicken into cubes and mix in 1/2 cup dressing. Let chicken marinate in the dressing while you chop the cabbage.

Chicken and Shredded Cabbage Salad with Dijon and Celery Seeds
(Makes about 4 servings, recipe created by Kalyn on one of many occasions she had leftover rotisserie chicken and cabbage in the vegetable crisper.)

2 cups diced leftover chicken (or cook 2 boneless chicken breasts in chicken stock, cool and dice)
1 cup finely sliced red cabbage
3 cups finely sliced green cabbage
1/4 cup thinly sliced green onions
salt and fresh-ground black pepper to taste

Dressing:
3/4 cup mayo (I usually use a mixture of regular and light mayo, but do not use fat free!)
2 T fresh squeezed lemon juice
1 T Dijon mustard (or less if you’re not that fond of mustard)
1/2 tsp. onion powder (can also use 1 tsp. grated onion)
2 tsp. celery seeds
1/2 tsp. Vege-Sal (or use regular salt, but Vege-Sal is perfect in this)

Whisk together dressing ingredients. (If you have time to make the dressing ahead, it will help the flavors develop.) Dice chicken into bite-sized pieces, place in medium-sized plastic bowl, and stir in 1/2 cup of dressing mixture. Let chicken marinate in the dressing while you slice cabbage and green onions.

Thinly slice cabbage, then coarsely chop into smaller pieces. (I like to use this mandoline I got from a student, but you can chop the cabbage with a knife as well.) Slice green onions. Put sliced cabbage and onions into bowl with chicken and dressing. Add more dressing until salad is a moist as you prefer. (You may not need all the dressing.) Season to taste with salt and freshly-ground black pepper.

South Beach Suggestions:
Salad like this is perfect for any phase of the South Beach Diet or any other low-glycemic eating plan. Light mayonnaise is best for South Beach, although mayonnaise is often made with soybean oil, which is considered a “good fat” for South Beach.

More Salads with Cabbage and Chicken:
(Recipes from other blogs may not always be South Beach Diet friendly; check ingredients.)
Red Cabbage and Chicken Asian Salad with Tangy Cilantro Dressing from Kalyn’s Kitchen
Vietnamese Cabbage Salad with Chicken and Cilantro from Kalyn’s Kitchen
Warm Red Cabbage Salad with Bacon and Goat Cheese from Kalyn’s Kitchen
Chicken Salad Cabbage Cups from Kath Eats Real Food
Chicken Cabbage Salad with Feta from Anne’s Food
(Want even more chicken cabbage salad recipes? I find these recipes from other blogs using Food Blog Search.)


2,700 posted on 02/24/2009 10:01:39 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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