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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: nw_arizona_granny

From your link:

http://www.olivetea.com/olive_tea_preparation.htm
Olive Leaf Tea Recipe

Preparation Instructions

A Healthful Treat Tastes Delicious

Amazing Organic Tea Leaves Can be Served Hot or Chilled.

Preparation Instructions (preventative medicine)

Olivus Cured and Cut Loose Leaf - Place one large teaspoon (approx. 10g) in a tea ball or herb sack. Drop into two quarts boiling water, immediately reduce heat to a medium simmer and let tea brew in covered pot for three to ten minutes. Stir tea occasionally, strain to drink and/or refrigerate. Tea should be a medium amber color. To combat a specific ailment sip refrigerated or re-heated tea and consume entire two quarts over a two day period.

Olivus Olive Leaf Tea Bags - Pour hot water over tea bag directly into drinking cup. Allow to steep covered for approximately five minutes and enjoy. Tea bags can be brewed like the loose leaf for larger quantities, five tea bags per quart of water

Tea dosage: Preventative - 1-3 cups per week. / Specific ailment - 3 servings per day for 3 to 5 days (average)

Olivus Olive Leaf Powder - Use olive leaf powder for powdered tea, in blended drinks or for cooking. Place a small teaspoon in hot water, your favorite smoothie or casserole recipe.

Olivus capsules are recommended 1-3 per day. 1 per day for preventative support to the immune system and up to 3 per day when fighting a specific ailment or condition.

Delicious, Unique Flavor
Olivus olive leaf tea tastes like nothing else. A light steeping delivers a satisfying mellow flavor. Longer steeping or brewing in a tea press creates a stronger, slightly bitter infusion (from the active ingredient Oleuropein) than can be mellowed with a slice of fresh lemon, stevia, soy, milk, sugar and other herbal flavorings. Serve hot or chilled. Olivus also leaf blends well with Green and other teas/herbs.

Have fun, experiment and send us your delicious, fun healthful mixtures.

Super Crock Brew - High-strength Olivus
Place 8 ounces (half of a one pound bag) of dried olive leaves (use olea europaea species only) in a 5 or 6 quart Crock-Pot. Add one gallon of filtered or distilled water. Turn heat on low. 6 hours later, check the temperature with a candy thermometer (from your hardware store). When the temperature falls between a range of 175° to 185°, move cover off center about 1/4 inch so some heat escapes. This should stabilize the temperature for the next 5 hours. The ideal temperature range to make the tea is at least 175° but not more than 185° Fahrenheit. At the 11th hour, add water lost through evaporation until it returns to its original level. Center cover so no more heat escapes and leave on low for one more hour. Total time to make the tea is 12 hours. Let is cool for 2 to 4 hours, then strain and store in glass bottles in a refrigerator until used. Discard what is not used within two weeks. Also, discard sooner if a film of mold appears in the jar. A lab test by Irvine Labs using the HPLC method showed 213 mg of oleuropein per 1/2 cup of this home made formula.

Olive leaf tea contains the active ingredient “oleuropein” which scientific studies have shown has anti-viral, anti-fungal and some anti-bacterial properties. The usual adult dose is 1/2 cup twice a day, although two persons had better results using 1/2 cup 3 times a day.

Make Your Own Olive Leaf Tea
It is easy to prepare olive leaf for tea at home. First find a good old Manzanillo or Mission olive tree. May and June are the best times to harvest the leaves because they are preparing to pollinate and have the highest concentration of Oleuropein. Wrap you fingers in Band-Aids or cloth tape and pull across the longer branches to get a handful of leaves. Soak then wash the leaves thoroughly with clean pure water to remove dirt and or chemicals present (Olivus is grown organically so no problem with chemicals). Once cleaned the leaves should be spread over an absorbent (cotton) surface and shade dried for a day. After first drying we sift the leaves to remove loose stems and then lightly pack in open bags to thoroughly dry and cure in a dry, cool, dark area, for about a month. Once fully dried leaves can be used whole or for best results ground before brewing, a blender on the slowest speed works nicely.

Safety Evaluation/Contraindications
This product should be avoided in pregnancy and lactation. Use with caution if you are allergic to Olive tree pollen as it may cause a seasonal respiratory allergic reaction. This herb may cause mild gastrointestinal irritation, particularly if taken on an empty stomach.

Known Drug Interactions
Olive leaf may potentiate the effects of blood pressure lowering medications and theoretically may interact with antidiabetic medications due to its potential to affect glucose levels. Further, this herb may interact with drugs that inhibit blood clotting and platelet aggregation, including but not limited to warfarin (Coumadin®), heparin, clopidogrel (Plavix®), pentoxifylline (Trental®), and aspirin, due to its potential effects in encouraging healthy blood formation and blood flow. Before using this formula, talk with your healthcare professional if you take any medications.

The Food and Drug Administration has not evaluated the claims contained in the information of this Website.
We always advise people to consult a physician or other health professional about the use of herbs for specific conditions.

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2,461 posted on 02/23/2009 9:10:49 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; JDoutrider

Ping to post 2449


2,462 posted on 02/23/2009 9:23:18 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

>>>I wonder how many “organic” frozen vegetables are really that.<<<

Since the Federalization of the Organic standards about 3 or 4 years ago, we have seen dozens of ‘compromises’ in the standards. Things like well, that chemical hasn’t been proven to be harmful, so it must be OK and still be organic. The cost of certification now has prompted only large corporate farms to be ‘Officially’ certified. It costs too much for a real organic gardener to get it done profitably. They even now try to control alternate descriptive labels - ‘Naturally Grown’ is one that I believe is still being used by small organic producers. Others just say ‘No Herbicides, No Pesticides, No Fungicides used in producing this item.’

It used to be that local groups were self-policing (a team of 3 local volunteers from the group - and in turn the inspected producer had his turn inspecting others) and they inspected their neighbors organic practices. Since federal standards were set and controlled by USDA, forget it...

Hmmmm, wonder if a large political campaign contribution would help get my ‘Organic Certification’?

Things like ‘Seeds of Certified Organically Grown origin must be used (if available)’ - look like a wide open barn door to me - does nothing to convince me that something is truly organic!

LOL Gee, I better get down off that soapbox... people might start thinking that I am some disgruntled old geezer...

http://www.organicconsumers.org/sos.cfm

SOS Campaign

After 35 years of hard work, the US organic community has built a multi-billion dollar alternative to industrial agriculture. Now large corporations, aided and abetted by the USDA and members of Congress, are moving to lower organic standards and seize control. For the sake of the earth and our health we must stop them.


Hmmm you mean I am not the only one worried about this?


2,463 posted on 02/23/2009 9:48:33 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Money during and after the crisis
http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2009/02/money-during-and-after-crisis.html

Anonymous said...
Ferfal, I believe you are overstating the importance of knives, gu ns, doors, dogs etc.

You are emphasizing it a bit too much - not much - just a little.

You forget to mention one thing: how do you earn money?

Money in its various forms is the most important thing.
Without money you can forget buying everything else.

How do you earn money? How do you plan to earn MORE?
February 22, 2009 11:31 AM

Anonymous said...
A pocket knfe with some led light attached to it, is just cute, but it cannot buy you anything.

Surviving means being able to feed oneself, having health insurance and a roof over one’s head.

With a gun and martial art skills you might survive one day, money makes you survive all 365 days of a year.
February 22, 2009 11:39 AM

My Anonymous friend...
You are underestimating me a bit too much.:)

I’ve insisted more than enough about the importance of money (both paper money and precious metals), even caught a bit of flames from angry survivalists that say it’s just pieces of paper and shiny metal.

Try looking into the Archives for articles regarding the importance of money and gold and how to make money after the crisis.
I’ve written about all those things you’ve mentioned… in the past… when people didn’t seem to thing money was such a big deal.. ;^)
Real estate investing and renting after the crisis
Mistakes survivalists make
More on gold and other concerns
Making money during crisis
(this one is rather appropriate given the current times)
Jewelry gold on field test
Most important need in first few days
About using gold and otherforms of currency

FerFAL


Links at the site - TAC


2,464 posted on 02/23/2009 9:50:21 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: All; metmom; Calpernia

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090223/ap_on_re_as/as_china_tainted_pork;_ylt=Ar3ckp6kfPZ348rOdc2EFWoBxg8F

70 sick in China after eating tainted pig organs
Mon Feb 23, 2:47 am ET

BEIJING – Pig organs contaminated by a banned animal feed additive have been blamed for sickening at least 70 people in southern China, state media said Monday.

The cases underscore a continuing battle with food safety in a country where supply chains are murky and the rising cost of labor, land and fuel sometimes force producers to cut corners in order to make a profit.

[snipped]

Clenbuterol helps to build muscle and is frequently used as an illegal performance enhancing drug by track and field athletes. China has banned its use as a pig feed additive.

[snipped]

In 2006, more than 300 people in Shanghai were hospitalized after eating pork and pig organs tainted with clenbuterol.

continued.


2,465 posted on 02/23/2009 10:02:20 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; Joya

Thanks.

Marking this for myself.


2,466 posted on 02/23/2009 10:38:27 AM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: All; metmom; Calpernia

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090223/ap_on_re_eu/eu_britain_tainted_blood;_ylt=Arnc1q3M5s4wbk5k61fautp0bBAF

No individual blame in UK’s tainted blood scandal
By GREGORY KATZ, Associated Press Writer Gregory Katz, Associated Press Writer 48 mins ago

LONDON – The first extensive report into Britain’s tainted blood scandal stopped short Monday of blaming individual doctors or companies for what is widely viewed as the National Health Service’s worst treatment disaster.

House of Lords member Peter Archer’s report called the scandal a “horrific human tragedy” but did not name any specific medical workers or pharmaceutical companies as being responsible for the deaths of around 2,000 hemophiliacs since the 1970s.

Archer’s commission did say that U.S. companies which provided unsafe blood plasma products bore a heavy responsibility for infecting roughly 5,700 hemophiliacs with HIV, the virus that causes AIDS, or Hepatitis C.

continues....


2,467 posted on 02/23/2009 11:08:44 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
I have been so overwhelmed by the useful information on these threads that I only have 12000 posts to go..

Thanks to everyone for the input , I guess I'm not alone in in my thinking... please add me to ping list.

I copied the following from another site so I can't vouch for it's accuracy , mainly because I don't understand about seeds... ( we always kept our family garden seeds and seed potatoes from the previous year but 8 years of not being concerned with the future is now taking it's toll..)

if someone can explain I would appreciate..

::: Everyone should save some Non-GMO organic seed, as they're locking the OP seed up in vaults in Norway. One vault is on a remote island and the other is built into the side of a mountain. Monsanto and Biotech are buying up as many seed companies as they can, and replacing the natural open pollinated seed with GMO seed and thousands of heirlooms are becoming extinct! :::::

??? thanks in advance for any and all assistance..

2,468 posted on 02/23/2009 11:10:58 AM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: All; milford421; Fred Nerks

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090223/ap_on_re_au_an/as_australia_wildfires;_ylt=AusGG37KqDQh7s6rq8BhdxdbbBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTFicGtwMGE3BHBvcwMxNgRzZWMDYWNjb3JkaW9uX3dvcmxkBHNsawNhdXN0cmFsaWFuc2Y-

Australians flee again as new wildfires flare up
By RICK RYCROFT, Associated Press Writer Rick Rycroft, Associated Press Writer 1 hr 23 mins ago

MELBOURNE, Australia – With terrifying memories of Australia’s deadliest wildfires still fresh, residents chose to flee rather than protect their homes Monday when new blazes broke containment lines and threatened the fringes of the country’s second-largest city.

Many victims of the Feb. 7 disaster that officials call “Black Saturday” died in their cars or in the open, and police said they tried, too late, to escape. Since then, officials have urged residents to choose quickly and stick with their decision: leave early when a blaze is near, or stay and fight.

One house was destroyed in the Melbourne suburb of Belgrave South before the fire threat eased Monday, but the panic showed how jittery Australians remained 16 days after the disaster killed at least 209 people.

continues.


2,469 posted on 02/23/2009 11:12:59 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Eagle50AE

This is what I keep saying on these threads but I am told I am crazy and that Monsanto is ok. Nothing to see here, move along. Thanks!

We’ve been buying heirloom tomatoes to get the seeds from those. If can get heirloom cantaloupes and zucchini and cucumbers, I will be very happy. Also peppers and strawberries.


2,470 posted on 02/23/2009 11:43:37 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Eagle50AE

Oh and by the way I’ll be uploading (again) the first 9000 posts of thread #1 in Microsoft Word, to the file transfer site yousendit.com, later this week. I’ll ping you when it’s uploaded and you can go get it for yourself. My next plan is to download the last 1000 posts of the original thread and all the posts on this thread into a third file.

Anyone else who wants a to download copies of the threads can ask and I will ping them too.


2,471 posted on 02/23/2009 11:46:05 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

wants a to = wants to


2,472 posted on 02/23/2009 11:47:34 AM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
>> who wants a to <<

myself, hailing from NORTH Georgia and living under the Blue Ridge Parkway in N.C., don't have no problem with my second language (enklish) /s

Yes,, Thank you.. the previous had already expired (> than 100 dloads I presume) so that will be a great help..

as for the seeds, I don't know what gmo and non-gmo relate to..

I just bought an arm load of seeds at wally-world for 3 bucks..maybe something will sprout. ha

2,473 posted on 02/23/2009 12:29:08 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Dehydrator Revival : Dug out our Clinton era American Harvest, ordered a new one and searched and found this on okra, although most probably already know what I did not.

Dehydrated Okra
Not Just For Southern Cooking!

Okra offers protein, vitamins A, B1, B2, B3, and B6. And when dried it’s an interesting flavor addition to dehydrated back-country meals.

Sliced Okra is easily dehydrated and retains those same qualities it did when fresh. Choose bright green plump pods that are unblemished. Blanch the whole pods for 2 minutes, slice into ½ inch pieces disposing of ends and stems. If you live in the colder areas of the country fresh Okra may not be available, so in that case use sliced and frozen Okra, just rinse the frozen well before drying. If your dehydrator has a thermostat, and fan it should take about 12 hours.

2,474 posted on 02/23/2009 12:57:58 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Eagle50AE

GMO = genetically modified. Monsanto splices in some genes that make the plant roundup resistant. The problem is that no one knows if the Franken-plant will be a problem in the future if its pollen mixes with non-GMO plants, if it may create poison, etc. I prefer not to take the risk. Nearly all soybeans are GMO these days. It means Monsanto can patent the plant and sue farmers who save seeds from previous years for patent infringement. It’s a very scary scenario we are headed to.

The yousendit links expire in a week, too, so no telling if it was 100 downloads or 7 days whichever came first. :)


2,475 posted on 02/23/2009 1:31:56 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Eagle50AE

“myself, hailing from NORTH Georgia and living under the Blue Ridge Parkway in N.C., don’t have no problem with my second language (enklish) /s”

LOL!!


2,476 posted on 02/23/2009 1:33:41 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Eagle50AE

“Dehydrator Revival : Dug out our Clinton era American Harvest, ordered a new one and searched and found this on okra, although most probably already know what I did not.”

Interesting!

Here is a page with solar cooking and dehydrators:

http://solarcooking.org/plans/


2,477 posted on 02/23/2009 1:37:52 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Forget that noise..

Just what I want: a cabbage that you can spray with roundup and eat tomorrow.. Oh yea btw this stuff in these orange barrels wont hurt you, we’ll be home in 6 months. remf’s

heirloom seeds have a 45 day waiting list , guess i’ll make it 46

thanks again for the info..


2,478 posted on 02/23/2009 1:41:45 PM PST by Eagle50AE (Pray for our Armed Forces.)
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To: Eagle50AE; DelaWhere

Someone, I think DelaWhere, recommended putting ten seeds on a damp paper towel and see what percent sprouts. Del, is there more to sprouting than that?


2,479 posted on 02/23/2009 1:42:46 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: Eagle50AE; nw_arizona_granny

Good stuff to know about okra.

I wonder what it tastes like raw. I should get a little bit and see if it is good. Granny, do you know?


2,480 posted on 02/23/2009 1:44:46 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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