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Is Recession Preparing a New Breed of Survivalist? [Survival Today - an On going Thread #2]
May 05th,2008

Posted on 02/09/2009 12:36:11 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny

Yahoo ran an interesting article this morning indicating a rise in the number of survivalist communities cropping up around the country. I have been wondering myself how much of the recent energy crisis is causing people to do things like stockpile food and water, grow their own vegetables, etc. Could it be that there are many people out there stockpiling and their increased buying has caused food prices to increase? It’s an interesting theory, but I believe increased food prices have more to do with rising fuel prices as cost-to-market costs have increased and grocers are simply passing those increases along to the consumer. A recent stroll through the camping section of Wal-Mart did give me pause - what kinds of things are prudent to have on hand in the event of a worldwide shortage of food and/or fuel? Survivalist in Training

I’ve been interested in survival stories since I was a kid, which is funny considering I grew up in a city. Maybe that’s why the idea of living off the land appealed to me. My grandfather and I frequently took camping trips along the Blue Ridge Parkway and around the Smoky Mountains. Looking back, some of the best times we had were when we stayed at campgrounds without electricity hookups, because it forced us to use what we had to get by. My grandfather was well-prepared with a camp stove and lanterns (which ran off propane), and when the sun went to bed we usually did along with it. We played cards for entertainment, and in the absence of televisions, games, etc. we shared many great conversations. Survivalist in the Neighborhood


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To: nw_arizona_granny
I have noticed that I want raisins in the early spring and when it is real hot in the summer, I want citrus. Two things that are not really favorites.

I can always tell when I'm out of whack I start wanting things I'm not normally fond of. Strawberries are one thing. I don't care for them, but about once a year I gotta have some. I know I'm out of balance then.

2,021 posted on 02/19/2009 6:10:02 PM PST by Wneighbor
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To: Wneighbor

Good old fashioned common sense. And like you said with the salts. She knew enough to not cut the salt from a new mom. She realized that with all that fluid loss and hard labor the body needed salt and sugar.<<<

Common sense is priceless.

There is much to learn, from a good teacher, and today so few even know the things that your midwife knew, without a fancy education.


2,022 posted on 02/19/2009 6:26:21 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All; CottonBall

If you are in the N.C. area you might want to know about this site.

I heard of the company on a Yahoo group and the owner posted intelligent answers, so I went and signed up for the newsletter.

It is worth reading and they have a wide variety of appliances and food items, so it is a good place to start ones searches.

Her recipes are difficult to find, but when you do, they are the good Mormon recipes.

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2,023 posted on 02/19/2009 6:33:06 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: All

http://millersgrainhouse.com/store/

Welcome to this Month’s Newsletter and Complimentary Recipes. Please feel free share us with your friends by forwarding this email along.

Nothin’ says ‘LOVE’ like starting off the day with something warm and homemade in the tummy.

Mornings can be amazingly busy, weird and sometimes down right funny (in hindsight anyway) around our house, but when the kids told me they wanted to leave the house at 5:00 AM to go work out together, I kind of felt like a ‘bad mom’ because there was NO WAY I was going to get something homemade or warm in them before they left the house. I mean, come on. Be real.

What was I to do?

Well, after wrestling with my own perfectionism and annoying ideals of what a ‘good mom’ should do, I got to work. Then out of my test kitchen came the answer to at least the homemade part...(o: ...I relaxed on the ‘warm’ part...

Whole Grain Breakfast Cookies

Cookies for Breakfast? Sure! Sounds like a treat to start off the day to me. Cookies and milk, cookies and coffee, cookies and juice. Nice.

These quick, grab and eat-on-the-run Whole Grain Breakfast Cookies work great for rushing out the door late for work (or too early for any other human person to be coherent at some pre-dawn hour) and are full of nutrients, whole grains, good carbs and proteins to satisfy you while breaking your overnight fast.

They also work well as an afternoon snack.

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Millers Grain House

WHOLE GRAIN BREAKFAST COOKIES

Time: 35 minutes total

Utensils and Items Needed:
Parchment paper
Cookie Sheet
2 mixing bowls
Measuring spoons and cups

Ingredients:

3/4 cup fresh milled soft wheat flour

1/2 cup fresh milled hard wheat flour

1/2 teaspoon baking soda

1 teaspoon cinnamon (optional, but use some spice)

1/2 teaspoon ground nutmeg or allspice

1/2 teaspoon salt

2 tablespoons of butter, melted

1/4 cup canola oil

1/4 cup sucanant or brown sugar

1/4 cup ecosweet organic cane crystals

1 egg

1/4 of any puree fruit or veggie (think baby food)*

1 teaspoon vanilla extract

2/3 cup whole rolled oats (toasted)**
1/3 -1/2 cup chopped nuts of your choice **
1/2 cup of bran breakfast cereal ***

1/2 cup dried fruits of your choice

* applesauce, apple butter, mashed bananas, or a jar of babyfood foods like carrots, pineapple-banana, etc....get creative to add nutrition.

**Toast oats and nuts together on a cookie sheet once oven is preheated for about 8-10 minutes while mixing other ingredients.

*** Raisin bran if you like raisins, or just the all bran cereal without fruit or grapenuts work well too.

Steps:

Pre-heat oven to 35O degrees being sure the rack is in the middle of the oven.

Watch those toasted oats and nuts carefully. Set a timer.

In the ‘dry’ bowl - put flours, baking soda, spices, and salt. Use whisk or fork to mix while dry.

In ‘wet’ bowl - combine butter, oil and sugars using a mixer until well mixed and fluffy looking. Beat about 1 minute. Add egg, fruit/veggie puree and vanilla then beat an additional 30 seconds.

Now mix flour into the ‘wet’ bowl and beat about 30 seconds only (don’t over mix - we don’t want tough cookies).

Now stir in (not beat) with fork or spoon the nuts, oats, cereal and dried fruit until just combined.

This cookie dough does not look like chocolate chip dough - it is ‘looser’ and more wet.

Line cookie sheet with parchment paper.

Drop batter in 3-4 tablespoon size dollups on paper with 3 inches between each. Wet hand and gently pat any hills down to level out cookie.

Bake about 12 minutes on center rack. When done, leave them on the sheet for 1 -2 minutes to cool, then transfer to a cooling rack. That will crisp up the bottom but not the whole cookie.

Repeat with remaining batter.

Makes about 12 good sized cookies for a fast and wholesome breakfast on the go.

Best Blessings and enJOY!
Donna Miller


2,024 posted on 02/19/2009 6:37:40 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
There is much to learn, from a good teacher, and today so few even know the things that your midwife knew, without a fancy education.

Interesting thing to note, my midwife had been an OB nurse for 30 years before moving to Texas. Had delivered babies since 1948. In my original post about this I said something about recommending home births when there were no complications. I did actually have a complication that would have likely resulted in a C-Section had I been in a hospital. My mid-wife was not even fazed. She knew what to do and delivered safely. Only afterward did I discover that a hospital wouldn't have delivered normally. The umbilical cord was wrapped around the baby's neck 3 times. My midwife just as cool as a cucumber just said, "oh all we have to do it loop it back over the head and we're fine. She did the unlooping as quick as an experience crocheter does 3 chain stitches.

So, how many of those day to day things have been lost by simply coming up with something dangerous and more complicated as an alternative? I think lots in all areas of living. Something to remember and think on when we see "progress."

2,025 posted on 02/19/2009 6:55:39 PM PST by Wneighbor
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Source: http://www.medicinenet.com

Recipes
Soups
Power Minestrone

Ingredients:

* 5 cups low-sodium beef broth (from packet reconstituted with water or canned)
* 3 carrots, diced
* 3 large outer celery stalks, sliced at a diagonal
* 1 onion, chopped
* 3 to 4 cloves garlic, minced or pressed
* 1 teaspoon dried basil, crushed
* 1/2 teaspoon dried oregano, crushed
* 1/4 teaspoon pepper
* 15 ounces can red kidney beans, drained and rinsed (or great Northern beans)
* 15 ounces can Italian-style stewed tomatoes (or regular stewed tomatoes)
* 2 cups zucchini pieces (zucchini halved lengthwise and sliced)
* 1/2 cup whole- or part-wheat macaroni (or similar shaped pasta)
* 4 tablespoons freshly grated parmesan cheese (optional)

Preparation:
1. In a large saucepan, combine broth, carrot, celery, onion, garlic, basil, oregano, and pepper. Bring to a boil; reduce heat. Cover; simmer for 15 minutes.
2. Stir in beans, tomatoes, zucchini, and macaroni. Return to boiling; cover and reduce heat to simmer. Cook 10 minutes more or until vegetables are tender.
3. Serve into serving bowls and sprinkle parmesan cheese over the top of each if desired.

Yield:
5 servings

Nutritional Information:
Per serving: 228 calories, 13.5 g protein, 38.5 g carbohydrate, 2.5 g fat (0 g saturated fat), 0 mg cholesterol, 10.5 g fiber, 618 mg sodium (if using less sodium beef broth). Calories from fat: 9%.

©2003-2006 WebMD Inc.

Last Editorial Review: 2/14/2006

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=59660&ecd=wnl_hlc_021909

© 2009 MedicineNet, Inc. All rights reserved.


2,026 posted on 02/19/2009 7:03:16 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall; nw_arizona_granny

>>>Chickens drink milk? That’s a new one on me!<<<

Oh yeah - they love it. When they are growing as well as when they are laying. I froze extra milk in gallon zip-lock bags and when it is really hot, just put a gallon of frozen in a tray and they will go crazy eating it.

The laying hens benefit from not only the nutrients but the calcium is essential (along with oyster shell) for them to have good shells on the eggs.

>>>How do goats fare with cold weather?<<<

They handle cold weather better than you would think. What they do need is a place that is out of the wind or drafts to bed down. Same with chickens and rabbits - drafts in their sleeping quarters are what get them down.

>>>I didn’t know goats give that much milk<<<

Depends on the breed. Of course pygmy goats don’t give that much milk, but Toggenburgs, Saanans, Nubians and some others are very good milk producers. Personally I prefer the richer Nubian milk - LOL but if you are the type who buys skim milk, they are not for you. We had one milking for quite a while, and she kept 4 of us in all the milk we could drink, made ice cream almost every day and enough to make cheese too.

>>>Or were so loving<<<

They very definitely have personalities. Each one is different, but they almost all love human attention. If you ever bottle feed an orphan goat, you will have a shadow for life... They will do whatever they have to do to be right with you all the time - and if you fence them in, they will spend hours bleating and walking along the fence looking for you.

>>>we get 5 or more feet of snowpack<<<

They will probably venture out and frolic in the snow, but won’t spend a lot of time outside with that much snow.

In another post there are comments on their health needs -

They are extremely robust and healthy animals. Some routine things to keep them that way are:

Clean dry bedding.

Draft free area to bed down in.

Hoof trim about every 4 months.

Mix a little Diatomaceous Earth (go to a pool supply- they use it in pool polishers and filters - cheaper and bigger bags) in their feed every 3 months (better than some of the worming medicines and does not affect the milk - also works in garden for many insects without having to use poisons).

Clip their udder about 3 times a year.

Wash the udder well before milking.

Strip a couple of squirts of first milk from each teat into a strainer - to check for thick stringy substance which could indicate mastitis or infection. (seldom a problem if they are well cared for.)

Be gentle when milking.

Dip teats in a good antiseptic sealer when done milking.

Treat them like the friends they try to be.

Since they are gregarious animals, more than one is advisable (Unless you are willing to be their pal full time)

Wow - hope I covered it all - you sure can ask a lot of questions in a really short post... But that’s good - you cover all the bases. LOL


2,027 posted on 02/19/2009 7:06:08 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

>>>I had watched him pull pigs<<<

They sure have sharp needle teeth don’t they. I have had many a piercing of my fingers helping a sow start delivering.

We used to have one Poland China sow who would always need help with the first one and then grab a bushel basket because here they came - she usually had 12-14 each time.


2,028 posted on 02/19/2009 7:10:55 PM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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Source: http://www.medicinenet.com

Recipes
Sandwiches: Soups
Winter Chicken & Barley Soup

Ingredients:

* 1 tablespoon olive or canola oil
* 1/2 cup chopped onion
* 1 cup chopped celery
* 2 cups sliced mushrooms (about 6 ounces)
* 1 tablespoon minced garlic
* 1 cup chopped carrots
* 1 1/2 cups chopped, cooked skinless chicken breast (about 7 ounces cooked)
* 5 cups low-sodium chicken broth
* 2/3 cup pearl barley
* 1/4 cup chopped fresh parsley (or 1 tablespoon parsley flakes)
* 1/3 slivered almonds, toasted (toast by heating over medium heat in nonstick frying pan, stirring often, until golden brown)
* Pepper to taste
* Salt to taste (optional)

Preparation:

1. Add oil to a large nonstick saucepan over medium heat. Stir in onions, celery, mushrooms, and garlic and saute until mushrooms are lightly browned (about 7 minutes).
2. Stir in carrots, chicken, and broth and bring to boil. Stir in the barley, cover the saucepan, and reduce heat to simmer. Cook for about an hour or until barley is just tender.
3. Turn off the heat and stir in parsley and almonds. Add pepper to taste and salt to taste if desired.

Yield:
6 servings

Nutritional Information:
Per serving: 246 calories, 18 g protein, 26 g carbohydrate, 9.5 g fat, 2 g saturated fat, 32 mg cholesterol, 6 g fiber, 156 mg sodium. Calories from fat: 33%.

© 2007 Elaine Magee

Last Editorial Review: 1/8/2008

© 2009 MedicineNet, Inc. All rights reserved.


2,029 posted on 02/19/2009 7:12:10 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Article Link: http://diabetes.webmd.com/peripheral-neuropathy-8/foot-care
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Diabetic Nerve Pain: 10 Foot Care Tips to Protect Yourself

Diabetes can mean double trouble for your feet. First, diabetes can reduce blood flow to your feet, depriving your feet of oxygen and nutrients. This makes it more difficult for blisters, sores, and cuts to heal. And second, the diabetic nerve damage called peripheral neuropathy can cause numbness in your feet. When you can’t feel cuts and blisters, you’re more likely to get sores and infections.

If you don’t notice or treat the sores, they can become deeply infected, and lead to amputation. A sad reality: having a toe, foot, or lower leg surgically removed is 10 times more likely in people with diabetes.

Diabetic peripheral neuropathy can also cause sharp pain in your feet. You may become excruciatingly sensitive to the lightest touch, like the sheets on your bed.

Fortunately, a little TLC goes a long way in preventing foot problems from diabetes.
10 Tips to Protect Your Feet

Foot Care Tip 1. Check both feet daily.
Look over both feet carefully every day, and be sure you check between all of your toes. Blisters and infections can start between your toes, and with diabetic neuropathy, you may not feel them until they’ve become irritated or infected. If a physical challenge keeps you from checking your own feet, ask a family member to help.

Foot Care Tip 2. Wash with warm - not hot - water.
Wash both of your feet briefly each day with warm - not hot - water. You may not be able to feel heat with your feet, so test the water with your hands first. Avoid soaking too long in water, since waterlogged sores have a harder time healing. Dry your feet right away, and remember to dry gently between all of your toes.

Foot Care Tip 3. Make sure your shoes fit well.
It’s an investment worth making. Even the slightest rubbing or misfit shoe can cause a blister that turns into a sore that becomes infected and never heals. Buy better-fitting shoes, or try different socks, even at the most minor signs of redness or irritation, since you may not be able to feel when it’s getting worse. Before buying or putting on the shoes check your shoes for rough seams, sharp edges or other objects that could hurt your feet. And break your shoes in gradually.

Foot Care Tip 4. Skip the barefoot look.
Always wear shoes or slippers. Always wear socks with your shoes, since leather, plastics, and manmade shoe materials can irritate your skin and quickly bring on blisters. While you might prefer the look of hose, nylon knee-highs, or thin socks, you may find that these don’t give your toes or heels enough protection. Wear thicker socks to pad your feet and cushion any calluses or sore spots.

Foot Care Tip 5. Speak up.
Nerve damage can be unpredictable. Tell your doctor about any changes in sensation in your toes, feet, or legs. Speak up if you notice pain, tingling, a pins-and-needles feeling, numbness, or any other unusual signs - even if it seems trivial to you. There’s nothing small-potatoes about a potential foot amputation.
10 Tips to Protect Your Feet continued...

Foot Care Tip 6. Stay soft - but dry.
Your skin may be dry and cracked because of high glucose levels, and cracked skin means it’s easier for bacteria to get under your skin and harder for infections to heal. Use a small amount of skin lotion daily, but be sure your feet feel dry - not damp or sticky - afterwards. Try not to get the lotion in between your toes. Keep your toenails trimmed and filed smooth to avoid ingrown toenails. You may find it easier to trim your nails after using lotion, when your cuticles are softer. Use a pumice stone after showering or bathing to softly file corns or calluses.

Foot Care Tip 7. Try non-impact exercise.
Swimming, cycling, yoga, and tai chi are increasingly popular ways to exercise - with minimal impact on your feet. Talk with your doctor before starting an exercise program.

Foot Care Tip 8. Fix bunions, corns, and hammertoes.
If your big toe slants sharply in toward your other toes, with a big bump on the knuckle of your big toe, you’ve got a classic bunion. Corns are spots of thick, rough skin, where the tissue builds up on toes constantly barraged by too much rubbing or pressure. A buckled-under toe, called a hammertoe, can result from muscle weakness caused by diabetic nerve damage. All of these make it hard to fit shoes comfortably. But a good podiatrist can help you fix these problems and take better care of your feet.

Foot Care Tip 9. Consider fitted orthotics.
A podiatrist can also fit you with shoe inserts called orthotics to support your feet if your have diabetic nerve pain or the muscles have become weak from nerve damage. If pain or weakness is so severe that it’s too painful or even impossible to walk, a foot brace or orthopedic shoes might help. A podiatrist is your best source for these devices.

Foot Care Tip 10. Control your blood sugar.
The best treatment for nerve pain, ultimately, is to manage your diabetes well. In fact, a major study by the American Diabetes Association in 2006 showed that strict blood glucose control with intensive insulin therapy lowered the chances of having symptoms of peripheral neuropathy - tingling, burning, and pain - by 64%. While you can’t control whether or not you get diabetic nerve pain, you can help control your glucose levels with diet, exercise, and mediations if you need them.

Your feet are your source of independence - or at least its foundation. Give your feet a little tenderness, a little loving care, each day. And be sure to have your doctor take a good look at your feet during each of your diabetes checkups, in case you missed anything.

WebMD Medical Reference
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SOURCES: Dace L. Trence, MD, endocrinologist, director of the Diabetes Care Center at the University of Washington Medical Center, Seattle. National Diabetes Information Clearinghouse (NDIC): “Prevent Diabetes Problems: Keep Your Feet and Skin Healthy,” “Prevent Diabetes Problems: Keep Your Nervous System Healthy,” and “Diabetic Neuropathies: The Nerve Damage of Diabetes.” American Diabetes Association: “Strict Blood Glucose Control Helps Prevent Nerve Damage in People with Diabetes.”
Reviewed by Brunilda Nazario, MD on August 29, 2008
© 2007 WebMD, Inc. All rights reserved.
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WebMD does not provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.


2,030 posted on 02/19/2009 7:19:21 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

So, how many of those day to day things have been lost by simply coming up with something dangerous and more complicated as an alternative? I think lots in all areas of living. Something to remember and think on when we see “progress.”

<<<<

How lucky you were to have a knowledgeable person with you and one that could unwrap the cord so quickly.

Many things we have to be thankful for.

I have noticed that on 9-11 I changed, even more than before.

I have always studied the old ways, something inside me keep chasing them.

On 9-11, I sat here and listened to the radio and knew that what Bill and I knew would happen one day, had happened and did not know how to handle the thought of all those people.....I don’t have tv, so did not see photos until later.

After that, I noticed that I had thought about all the new electronics and decided that I was not interested in them.

My sister gave me a cell phone, or I would not have one and it does help me, now I can not feel I have to disconnect the computer from the land line.

I want to know the important stuff and not the ‘mod tv crap’.

I see the same changes in our food, it simply does not taste like it did once, at first the first answer that I got when I complained to Scott about the taste, was “It is all the meds you take”....as before his wife died, Theresa had a rough time with the taste of food, from the chemotherapy.

But it isn’t my taste, to prove it, he had brought me a flat of the individual wrapped honey- cinnamon rolls, the ones you will find near the cash register in the gas station.

I complained that it was full of chemicals and to prove it, I left one on the counter, just as it came out of the box, it got moved but never to the refrig or freezer.

I handed it to him last week, suggested he squeeze it, “Nothing wrong with this, where did you get it?”

I think he thought a Freeper had sent it to me.

He looked at the expiration date and I told him that it is about 2 years old, give or take a month or so.

He agreed that if I had not told him, he would have eaten it.

No, our new ways are not the best ways, not for our bodies, minds or mother nature.


2,031 posted on 02/19/2009 7:42:04 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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Here's how the code works:

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Once you use html on a FR post, you have to mark up the entire post, using a paragraph separator - <p> - after each paragraph. One benefit is that it makes the posts shorter, there's no extra paragraph return after the last paragraph on the thread.

I've been lazy lately and just post the link and avoid html. Sometimes I use quotemarks around the text from an earlier comment so I don't have to mark up the whole dang thing. :P

2,032 posted on 02/19/2009 8:17:17 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: DelaWhere; CottonBall; All

Oh yeah - they love it. When they are growing as well as when they are laying. I froze extra milk in gallon zip-lock bags and when it is really hot, just put a gallon of frozen in a tray and they will go crazy eating it.

The laying hens benefit from not only the nutrients but the calcium is essential (along with oyster shell) for them to have good shells on the eggs.<<<

While I am thinking of it, when you have day old chicks, quail, guinea fowl and any poultry.

The first drink should be water, 6 or 8 hours for the chicks and then switch to buttermilk and you will have the strongest poultry and for quail and guinea keets, it will give the protein they are missing from bugs.

Just take a carton of regular cultured buttermilk and pour it about half and half milk, even powdered milk works or goat and set it in a warm spot for 24 hours, shake and replace the water in the water dishes with the buttermilk.

Refill with your 50 - 50 mix and let it work.

Big poultry will drink it too, I never worried about sour milk for the animals.

Mary and Jay had a big metal tank, about a foot high and 4 or 5 foot long, that they set under the mesquite tree, the leaves and seed pods dropped in the tank and they poured extra or old milk in it.

In the desert heat [Yuma area], they would get a black dry crumbly substance that was very rich for the poultry and hogs.

your goat report is excellent, thank you.

I didn’t milk through a strainer as such, I stretched cheese cloth over the bucket, held with a big rubber band and if there was mastitus, it would show there and I also tested first with the mastitus test strips...

The cheese cloth has kept many a foot out of the bucket.

In the house, I used the standard milk filter and strained it into the jars, always making sure that there were no strange things in the strainer.

I took a bucket of warm water and hand towels with me, to clean the udder with, that is what Dr. Comer, the crazy chiropractor that I went to in Yuma told me to do.

I have a wonderful postcard collection from Dr. Comer, he would trade treatments or part treatments, for milk, cheese and eggs.

Each month a card showed up, about the time to go to Yuma, with what he needed.

Now, for a treatment that he used and it works, as I said, he was known as Crazy Dr. Comer and he was apt to do anything to you and had been out of medical school for 50 years, so he earned his name.

One day, I was gone , tired sore, nothing working and extreme pain, I stripped and got on the table and he disappeared for 20 minutes, while I relaxed.

Then I heard a machine start up and felt him doing strange things to my back....This was about 1974.

I thought, “My God he is using a vacuum cleaner on me and yes he was and it works.

He said, that the nerve endings are at the surface of the skin, so he decided that he needed to make those nerves wake up and do the job they were intended to do, plus get those blood vessels to moving blood again.

The trick is to not leave it in one spot long enough to make a blister, let it suck up the skin and then move to another spot..

Since then, I have found the treatment in writing and talked to Bill’s Barber about it, as he gave me a haircut and used the vacuum on my head.

He told me that one of his old customers had had a stroke and when he could get out again, he would come to Bob and Bob would vacuum his shoulder and arm, when there were no clients in the shop and that the man recovered from his stroke, and his arm was normal.

About 1974 Mary’s brother came to visit, he/they were both in their 80’s and he had taken care of his wife for years, as she was in a wheel chair.

Brother had also had a stroke, and lost the use of his arm, and me being me, I wanted to take him to Dr. Comer, for his arm / shoulder was as hard as a rock.

No, he had never been to a chiropractor and would not hear of it, as 2 of his sons were top doctors back east and one was a specialist in what had happened to Brother.

I tried to convince him that he had a pinched nerve, for all the folks with a stroke go flabby, not rock hard......now you know why Bill called me a witch doctor, no license and a big mouth.

Sure enough, a year or two went by and all of a sudden the Brother’s shoulder relaxed, was no longer hard as a rock and there was nothing much wrong with it.

So when you get those grandpa aches, allow your wife to give you a good vacuuming.

It sure works for headaches.

[LOL, yes, I knew the Brothers name all along, but 2 Bill’s in the same story was one too many.]


2,033 posted on 02/19/2009 8:20:41 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

We used to have one Poland China sow who would always need help with the first one and then grab a bushel basket because here they came - she usually had 12-14 each time.
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Is it inherited?

That is what we had and Mela had to have the entire litter pulled and dead.

Her sister said “move over, here they come” and “aren’t they cute?”


2,034 posted on 02/19/2009 8:24:33 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; Wneighbor; All

I’ve been lazy lately and just post the link and avoid html. Sometimes I use quotemarks around the text from an earlier comment so I don’t have to mark up the whole dang thing. :P
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For that I thank you.

I hate the html links, as they screw with my mind and computer.

I have, before I learned to ignore them, clicked on links that crashed me and caused me to loose all the sites and work that I was working on.

I have without paying attention, been to some heavy porn sites.

I wish everyone would make their links plain and in the open, so we don’t get surprises.

LOL, there I go, bucking progress again.....I like the old ways.


2,035 posted on 02/19/2009 8:30:17 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

There are a couple of parcels here near Pine Flat Lake, Sanger, California. One is 10 parcels, just off Sunnyslope Road, about 1/2 mile from here. I can get the agent’s name and phone if you’d like. I think they were wanting like $200K for it. There’s a mobile home on the property that is likely not worth keeping for more than a year.


2,036 posted on 02/19/2009 8:36:50 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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To: CottonBall

Now THAT is snow. Your cabin is gorgeous. I love those timber frame houses. My husband really wants one. However, this house is paid for, so it’s that much more enjoyable for us.


2,037 posted on 02/19/2009 8:39:23 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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Source: http://www.medicinenet.com

Top 10 Everyday Super Foods

These easy-to-eat foods are packed with multiple nutrients to help you stay healthy.

By Kathleen Zelman, MPH, RD/LD
WebMD Weight Loss Clinic - Feature

Reviewed By Louise Chang, MD

If only there were some kind of potion or pill that had everything you needed for weight loss and good health. Unfortunately, no such pill exists, but there is a solution — something that not only promotes wellness and weight control but tastes good, too. These multitasking “super foods” provide multiple disease-fighting nutrients, fill you up so you can enjoy plenty of food without excess calories, and are easy to include in everyday meals. After all, what good is a super food that is hard to find, difficult to prepare, and the kids won’t eat?

Eaten regularly, these foods will help you satisfy the recommendations of the U.S. government’s 2005 Dietary Guideline, giving you nutrients that are typically missing from American diets. According to the Guidelines, Americans need to eat more fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and low-fat dairy products.

Of course, experts are quick to point out, this list of top 10 super foods by no means includes all the nutritious foods that should be part of a healthy diet.

“What is ultimately the most important to good health is a dietary pattern that includes all these foods, along with a wide variety of other nutritious foods and regular physical activity,” says Tufts University researcher Alice Lichtenstein, DSc.

And don’t forget that portion size matters, even when it comes to healthy foods. You can take more liberties when eating simply prepared vegetables, but you should take care to eat other super foods in sensible portions.

“Foods like nuts are nutrient rich, but if you overeat them you can pack on the pounds, and that defeats the purpose,” says Elisa Zied, MS, RD, author of Feed Your Family Right!

Top 10 Multitasking Super Foods

Low fat or fat-free plain yogurt is higher in calcium than some other dairy products and contains a great package of other nutrients, including protein and potassium. It can also be enhanced with other good-for-you substances. “Yogurt is a vehicle food that can be enriched with probiotics for a healthy balance of bacteria in your gut, and beneficial, heart-healthy plant stanols,” says Zied. “And lactose sensitive people may tolerate yogurt better than milk.” Look for plain yogurt fortified with vitamin D, and add your own fruit to control sweetness and calories. Versatile yogurt can also be used in entree and bakery recipes, in dips for veggies, etc. Don’t like yogurt? Skim milk is another super dairy food that has only 83 calories per cup and is easy to slip into coffee to help you get one of the recommended three servings of dairy each day. “Dairy foods contain practically every nutrient you need for total nutrition — and in just the right balance,” says bone health expert, Robert Heaney, MD. “No other food group in the diet is as complete or as economical.”

Eggs make the list because they are nutritious, versatile, economical, and a great way to fill up on quality protein. “Studies show if you eat eggs at breakfast, you may eat fewer calories during the day and lose weight without significantly affecting cholesterol levels,” says Elizabeth Ward, MS, RD, author of The Pocket Idiot’s Guide to the New Food Pyramids. Eggs also contain 12 vitamins and minerals, including choline, which is good for brain development and memory. Enjoy them at any meal or hard-cooked as a portable snack.

Nuts have gotten a bad rap because of their high fat content. But their protein, heart-healthy fats, high fiber, and antioxidant content earn them a place on the top 10 list. The key to enjoying nuts, experts say, is portion control. “All nuts are healthful in small doses, and studies show they can help lower cholesterol levels and promote weight loss,” says Today Show nutritionist Joy Bauer, MS, RD. “I like pistachio nuts because they also contain plant sterols and it takes longer to crack the shell and eat them, making it easier to control the portion. Whether you prefer pistachios, almonds, peanuts, walnuts, or pecans, an ounce a day of nuts help fill you up. Nuts add texture and flavor to salads, side dishes, baked goods, cereals, and entrees. They taste great alone, too. Zied recommends putting together your own “100-calorie packs” of nuts for easy and portable snacks. Kiwis are among the most nutritionally dense fruits, full of antioxidants, says Ward. “One large kiwi supplies your daily requirement for vitamin C,” says Ward. “It is also a good source of potassium, fiber, and a decent source of vitamin A and vitamin E, which is one of the missing nutrients, and kiwi is one of the only fruits that provides it.” The sweet taste and colorful appearance of kiwis makes it easy to slice in half, scoop out with a spoon and enjoy alone, or slice it into desserts, salads, or side dishes. Kiwifruit can also have a mild laxative effect due to their high fiber content.

Quinoa is now readily available in many supermarkets and is one of the best whole grains you can eat, according to Zied. “It is an ancient grain, easy to make, interesting, high in protein (8 grams in 1 cup cooked), fiber (5 grams per cup) and a naturally good source of iron,” she says. Quinoa (pronounced keen-wa) also has plenty of zinc, vitamin E, and selenium to help control your weight and lower your risk for heart disease and diabetes, she says. Quinoa is as easy to prepare as rice and can be eaten alone or mixed with vegetables, nuts, or lean protein for a whole-grain medley. Try to make at least half your daily grain servings whole grains. In addition to quinoa, try barley, oats, buckwheat, whole wheat, wild rice, and millet.

Beans, beans, good for your heart — really! Beans are loaded with insoluble fiber, which helps lower cholesterol, as well as soluble fiber, which fills you up and helps rid your body of waste. They’re also a good, low-fat source of protein, carbohydrates, magnesium, and potassium. Bauer favors edamame (whole soybeans) because they also contain heart-healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Beans can easily substitute for meat or poultry as the centerpiece of a meal, says Bauer, but they also work as a side dish, or tossed into soups, stews, or egg dishes. The U.S. Dietary Guidelines recommend 3 cups weekly.

Salmon is a super food because of its omega-3 fatty acid content. Studies show that omega-3 fatty acids help protect heart health. That’s why the American Heart Association recommends eating fatty fish like salmon twice weekly. Salmon is low in calories (200 for 3 ounces) has lots of protein, is a good source of iron, and is very low in saturated fat. You can simply grill or bake it, top it with salsas or other low-fat sauces, or serve it on top of salad greens. If you don’t like salmon, Lichtenstein recommends eating other kinds of fish, like canned tuna. And what about the mercury content? (Mercury is known to accumulate in fish.) “The benefits of eating salmon or other fatty fish twice weekly far outweigh any risks, but if you are concerned, check with your doctor,” says Zied.

Broccoli is one of America’s favorite vegetables because it tastes good and is available all year long. It’s a rich source of vitamin A, vitamin C, and bone-building vitamin K, and has plenty of fiber to fill you up and help control your weight. “Some people think beta-carotene (vitamin A) is only found in orange and yellow vegetables, but broccoli is an excellent source,” says Ward. You can eat broccoli raw, lightly steamed, stir-fried, roasted, or grilled. Eat it as a side dish, or toss into grains, egg dishes, soups, and salads.

Sweet potatoes are a delicious member of the dark orange vegetable family, which lead the pack in vitamin A content. Substitute a baked sweet potato (also loaded with vitamin C, calcium, and potassium) for a baked white potato. And before you add butter or sugar, taste the sweetness that develops when a sweet potato is cooked — and think of all the calories you can save over that loaded baked potato. “If we eat more foods like sweet potatoes that are rich sources of potassium, and fewer high-sodium foods, we can blunt the effect of sodium on blood pressure and reduce bone loss,” says Zied. Other dark orange vegetable standouts include pumpkin, carrots, butternut squash, and orange bell peppers.

Berries pack an incredible amount of nutritional goodness into a small package. They’re loaded with antioxidants, phytonutrients, low in calories, and high in water and fiber to help control blood sugar and keep you full longer. And their flavors satisfy sweets cravings for a fraction of the calories in baked goods. Blueberries lead the pack because they are among the best source of antioxidants and are widely available. Cranberries are also widely available fresh, frozen, or dried. All can add flavor and nutrition to numerous dishes, from salads and cereals to baked goods and yogurt.

Published November 19, 2007.

SOURCES: Robert P. Heaney, MD, John A. Creighton University Professor, Creighton University. Joy Bauer, MS, RD, author, Joy Bauer’s Food Cures; nutritionist, the Today Show. Elizabeth Ward, MS, RD, author, The Pocket Idiot’s Guide to the New Food Pyramid. Elisa Zied, MS, RD, spokeswoman, American Dietetic Association; author, Feed Your Family Right! U.S. Department of Agriculture’s 2005 U.S. Dietary Guidelines. Alice Lichtenstein, DSc, Stanley N. Gershoff Professor of Nutrition Science and Policy, Friedman School of Nutrition Science, Tufts University. Asia Pacific Journal of Clinical Nutrition, June 2002; vol 11, issue 2: pp164-168.

©2007 WebMD Inc. All rights reserved.

© 2009 MedicineNet, Inc. All rights reserved.
MedicineNet does not provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. See additional information


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Cheap and Healthy Brown-Bag Lunch Ideas (for Grownups)

10 workday lunches that will save you time, money, and calories.

By Kathleen M. Zelman, MPH, RD/LD
WebMD Weight Loss Clinic - Feature

Reviewed By Louise Chang, MD

Taking a healthy lunch to work is one of the simplest ways to trim your budget. Most people think nothing of spending $10 or so for a restaurant lunch, but over the course of a month — or a year — the expense can really add up.

Beyond the cost savings, most meals packed at home are healthier than foods at restaurants. When we eat out, we’re often faced with whopper portions and fattening extras — like the french fries that routinely come with sandwiches. But when you pack lunch at home, you can control your portions and choose healthier ingredients.

Still, unless you’re willing to eat the same peanut butter sandwich day in and day out, it’s easy to run out of ideas and fall back into the restaurant rut. So WebMD asked the experts to recommend healthy, creative lunch ideas that are not only cheap, but easy to prepare.

What Makes Up a Healthy Lunch?

First of all, make sure your lunch is balanced, experts recommend. Lunches that include some lean or low-fat protein along with carbohydrates will keep your body fueled for the afternoon, says Connie Diekman, RD, president of the American Dietetic Association.

“The combination of protein and fiber from whole grains, beans, nuts, vegetables and/or fruit will give you the most satisfying and nutritious combination of foods that will keep you feeling full until dinner,” she says

If you love sandwiches, use a variety of whole-grain breads, pitas, and wraps. Choose lean fillings like sliced eggs, tuna fish, cheese or lean meats. Then jazz up your sandwiches with assorted greens, fresh basil, sprouts, sliced cucumbers, onions, and/or tomatoes.

But sandwiches are far from your only option when you’re brown-bagging it. Last night’s dinner, hard boiled eggs, vegetarian wraps, cereal — anything you enjoy at home can be packed up and eaten for lunch.

In fact, you might want to make extra food for dinner so you’ll have leftovers to bring for lunch, experts suggest. “Leftovers are the perfect food to pack and take for lunch because you can control the portions and calories in the meal to ensure it will be nutritious, filling and delicious,” says Diekman.

For example, she suggests packing the leftovers of a black bean, brown rice and salsa dinner casserole, topped with shredded cheddar cheese, into a reusable container that can be microwaved at the office. Add some carrot, celery, and pepper strips for a hearty and satisfying lunch.

To take this idea a bit further, try cooking in bulk. On the weekend, make a big pot of chili, soup, or rice and beans and freeze into individual portions that are ready to take to work in a flash.

Convenience foods can also make quick and easy lunches. Canned soups and frozen meals can be inexpensive, especially if you stock up when they’re on sale, and all you have to do is grab one when you’re running out the door. Pair these portion-controlled items with a side salad or piece of fruit to provide enough calories to keep you feeling full.

10 Easy Lunch Ideas

American Dietetic Association spokesperson Angela Ginn-Meadow, RD, says planning ahead is essential for quick lunch assembly. “A planned menu with all the ingredients in the kitchen will make it easy to put together tomorrow’s lunch after dinner,” she says.

She compiled this grocery list for a week’s worth of lunches costing $5 or less a day (assuming you already have salad dressings on hand):

Whole wheat pita bread
Romaine lettuce
2 tomatoes
1 cucumber
1 bag baby carrots
1 bag of apples & oranges
1 can of light tuna in water
1 can of salmon (split for two meals)
1 prepared grilled chicken
3 cans of low-sodium, broth-based soup

With this list of foods, you can prepare:

* 1 pita with lettuce and grilled chicken with light Caesar dressing; baby carrots; and an apple.
* Salmon lettuce wraps with light sesame Asian dressing; 1 can of broth-based soup; and an orange.
* Tomato & cucumber salad with olive oil and vinegar; tuna salad on pita; baby carrots; and an apple.
* 1 can of soup; and grilled chicken on a bed of romaine with sliced apple and light vinaigrette.
* Garden salad with salmon, tomato, cucumber, and baby carrots; an orange; and 1 can of soup.

Diekman offers 5 more cheap lunch options that are also simple to prepare:

* Whole-wheat tortilla wrap of hummus, lettuce, sliced tomatoes, feta cheese and black olives; plus a carton of fat-free vanilla yogurt, and berries.
* Whole wheat pita stuffed with vegetarian refried beans, salsa, lettuce and shredded cheddar cheese; and apple slices with peanut butter.
* A green salad loaded with canned chunk light tuna, carrot strips, pepper slices, tomato wedges, red beans, and dried cranberries topped with balsamic vinaigrette; with a cup of low fat chocolate milk.
* A peanut butter and banana sandwich on whole wheat bread; a piece of fresh fruit; and low fat yogurt.
* Whole-wheat tortilla roll with sliced turkey, sliced low-fat mozzarella cheese, red pepper strips, and lettuce leaf (chill and slice into bite size pieces); with fruit salad and a glass of skim milk.

To save money on beverages, use the water cooler at work instead of buying bottled water or a soda from the vending machine. And bring coffee in a to-go mug instead of stopping at your favorite coffee shop. Got a sweet tooth after lunch? Have fruit, a few pieces of hard candy, or a few low-fat Graham crackers or vanilla wafers.

Keep Your Lunch Healthy and Safe

Don’t forget: Lunches that include meat, fish, poultry, or dairy need to kept refrigerated. Toss your lunch in the refrigerator at work. If you don’t have access to refrigeration, invest in a lunchbox, Thermos, reusable plastic containers, plastic baggies, and ice packs to keep your lunch at the proper temperature.

Published June 27, 2008.

SOURCES:
Connie Diekman, MEd, RD, director of university nutrition, Washington University, St. Louis; president, American Dietetic Association.
Angela Ginn-Meadow, RD, spokeswoman, American Dietetic Association.

©2008 WebMD, LLC. All rights reserved.

Last Editorial Review: 7/16/2008


2,039 posted on 02/19/2009 8:43:27 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2181392/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
I have noticed that I want raisins in the early spring and when it is real hot in the summer, I want citrus.

Raisins have a lot of potassium and so does citrus. I think raisins also have a lot of iron. The potassium makes sense if you are extra hot, you are probably losing it through perspiration. Not sure about the raisins.

2,040 posted on 02/19/2009 8:44:57 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Be prepared for tough times. FReepmail me to learn about our survival thread!)
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