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The man who died half a million years ago
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Posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:03 AM PDT by Renfield

Boxgrove

The man who died half a million years ago

In a gravel pit at Boxgrove, just outside Chichester, the remains of a man have been discovered, half a million years old. Only a shin bone and two teeth were discovered, but his position, under thick layers of gravel show that he is the oldest 'man' so far discovered in Britain.

The Boxgrove quarry

The discovery was made in a gravel quarry. The gravel was laid down in a later Ice Age on top of a chalk bed, which is visible in the upper squares. Originally a stream flowed from the cliffs (bottom left, behind the camera), and around this stream, numerous remains of animal bones were found, and also numerous handaxes - and part of a human skeleton.

The Bone

The most famous discovery - a tibia, or shin bone from an early man. Both ends have been gnawed off, probably by a wolf, but it was from a robust individual, very active, and is assigned to the group known as 'Heidelberg man'. Two teeth were also discovered at the bottom of the channel, at least a metre lower than the tibia. The teeth probably come from the same individual, and are similar to the teeth from Mauer man.

One of the flint handaxes found at Boxgrove

This shows very clearly the 'tranchet' tip: a blow had been struck at the top left corner removing a flake from the top quarter of the axe, thus leaving a razor-sharp edge. Over 250 of such hand axes were found in a single season. The associated fauna - notably some voles' teeth, show that the site is to be dated to a period before the 'Anglian' or 'Great' ice age, and should therefore be dated to around 500,000 years old.

Section through the quarry

Today the site is on the flat coastal plain, several miles from the sea to the south, and a mile from the low foothills of the South Downs to the north. Half a million years ago however, the site lay at the foot of chalk cliffs 200 metres high, which have since been totally eroded. Here we see the foot of the former cliffs, top left, with some of the storm beaches thrown up by the sea (right). When the sea level fell, a broad grassy plain soon evolved, a rich habitat for animals and early man. [Poster's note: the picture referenced in this paragraph is missing from the original article]


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bloodbath; britain; britishisles; godsgravesglyphs; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; paleoanthropology; paleontology
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To: Fred Nerks
and should therefore be around 500,000 years old...

the 'experts' aren't convinced, why should I be? And there's nothing to 'correct' because of the experts' quite evident uncertainty...

bit cranky today, are we hmm?

Scientists tend to write carefully, saying no more than they can reliably document, and couching even what they can document in very careful terms.

You ask, "the 'experts' aren't convinced, why should I be?"

Why do you assume you know more than the experts? How long have you studied in this field? Should I address you as Dr. Nerks?

As for cranky, yes, I do get "cranky" with folks who trash science and scientists without sufficient personal knowledge to have a valid scientific opinion. You comment has led me to believe that you might fit into this category.

If you have spent a few dozen years studying this field and, on that basis, have specific doubts concerning their findings, then I will certainly listen respectfully.

Otherwise, no.

21 posted on 10/05/2007 8:59:29 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

mail for you


22 posted on 10/05/2007 9:50:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Coyoteman; Renfield; blam
Boxgrove, just outside Chichester
That triggered a recollection, but I'd not time to share it before. It comes from a friend, who read it in a book by Alan Watts, I believe.
There was a young lady of Chichester
whose good looks make the saints in their niches stir
one Sunday at Mass
the curve of her ass
made the Bishop of Chichester's britches stir.
Good to recite that one slowly, but the temptation on the last line is to gallop like a horse. :')
23 posted on 10/05/2007 10:07:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fred Nerks
mail for you

You have mail as well.

Here is a useful chart. Note the center line, temperature:


24 posted on 10/05/2007 10:08:50 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
I thought this thread would be right up your alley.

But...but...it's just a Dead White MaleTM /DU mode.

Cheers!

25 posted on 10/05/2007 10:17:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Docbarleypop
"dating sites that dont have associated charcoal deposits."

And just where do you take your dates to, anyway?

;-)

26 posted on 10/05/2007 10:18:59 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SunkenCiv
A woman whose clothing was strewed
by breezes which left her quite nude
saw a man come along
and unless I am wrong
you expected this line to be lewd!

Cheers!

27 posted on 10/05/2007 10:21:04 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

ping, if you’re so inclined


28 posted on 10/05/2007 10:23:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: grey_whiskers

There was a young fellow from Sparta
Who became quite a champion Farta
From the cheeks of his ass
Came Bach’s B minor mass
And selections from La Traviata.


29 posted on 10/05/2007 10:39:44 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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it's official.
30 posted on 10/05/2007 11:11:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MHGinTN

“The humankind descended from Adam have only been around for approx. 6000+ years. How long humankind have been on the planet is not covered in the Bible, if that’s what you’re trying to denigrate.”

In addition to being two poorly constructed and grammatically incorrect sentences, this sentiment is frankly terrifying in its implications. The way you play with anthropology and theology at the same time, while evidencing a gross lack of understanding of the finer points of either, is staggering. Lord help the Republican Party if you are a voting member.


31 posted on 10/05/2007 11:33:10 PM PDT by 49th (this space for rent)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1905266/posts?page=14#14


32 posted on 10/05/2007 11:36:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the ping!


33 posted on 10/05/2007 11:41:22 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 49th

Do you get occasional nose bleeds from way up there on your lofty condescension perch? Bwahahaha, but you must be having fun being such an ass else you’d stop braying!


34 posted on 10/05/2007 11:49:55 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1905266/posts?page=14#14

hehehe...hahaha...hohoho


35 posted on 10/06/2007 12:55:44 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I can see blokes at a pub attempting that one after 10 rounds of pints.


36 posted on 10/06/2007 5:42:09 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: sodpoodle
The remains of a man have been discovered. He is believed to have died 500,000 years ago.

"And it appears that he's a registered democrat who's voted the party line in every election since FDR was first elected!"

Mark

37 posted on 10/06/2007 6:02:55 AM PDT by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Renfield
Try that with The Barley Mow, and each time you screw up you have to take another drink...
38 posted on 10/06/2007 8:14:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Friday, October 5, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Judith Anne
Judith Anne!

I never would have expected a verse like that from you!

So, since you asked for it, Le Petomane.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

Cheers!

39 posted on 10/06/2007 9:07:55 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

my dating techniques, while not always accurate, generally involve rodents and other small woodland creatures.


40 posted on 10/06/2007 6:55:07 PM PDT by Docbarleypop (navy doc)
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