The Samurai And The Ainu (Read This Before Seeing The Movie "The Last Samurai")

Science Frontiers ^ | 1989 | Dr C Loring Brace

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THE SAMURAI AND THE AINU

Findings by American anthropologist C. Loring Brace, University of Michigan, will surely be controversial in race conscious Japan. The eye of the predicted storm will be the Ainu, a "racially different" group of some 18,000 people now living on the northern island of Hokkaido. Pure-blooded Ainu are easy to spot: they have lighter skin, more body hair, and higher-bridged noses than most Japanese. Most Japanese tend to look down on the Ainu.

Brace has studied the skeletons of about 1,100 Japanese, Ainu, and other Asian ethnic groups and has concluded that the revered samurai of Japan are actually descendants of the Ainu, not of the Yayoi from whom most modern Japanese are descended. In fact, Brace threw more fuel on the fire with:

"Dr. Brace said this interpretation also explains why the facial features of the Japanese ruling class are so often unlike those of typical modern Japanese. The Ainu-related samurai achieved such power and prestige in medieval Japan that they intermarried with royality and nobility, passing on Jomon-Ainu blood in the upper classes, while other Japanese were primarily descended from the Yoyoi." The reactions of Japanese scientists have been muted so. One Japanese anthropologist did say to Brace," I hope you are wrong."

The Ainu and their origin have always been rather mysterious, with some people claiming that the Ainu are really Caucasian or proto-Caucasian - in other words, "white." At present, Brace's study denies this interpretation.

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Sand-Covered Huns City Uncovered

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"CELTS!"

Related but, waaay to early for Celts. See post #19 about the Red-headed folks. The mummies of Urumchi were directly related to the later Celts at Hallstadt, Austria, 4,000 miles and 1,000 years away/apart...also related to Oetzi The Iceman (5,300 years old)

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Ties in with the Great Flood migration when the mining communities were transplanted to the Americas from Mesopotamia and Africa. (Quetzlcoatl, et al) Re: Sitchin.

Ainu = descendants of Anu, chief of the Nephilim pantheon? If I'm not mistaken, I think there is an Anu area in northeastern China as well.

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This Anu?

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That's him. He usurped Alalu, king of the Nibiruans (12th planet) and had Enki and Enlil. Enki was father of Marduk and several others, including Nin-Gish-Zidda. Enlil was second-born, and of a mistress, not Anu's wife. Something about keeping the dna straight favored Enlil for second position in the 12-member pantheon. Enki was third position, which created some emnity between the two sons. The rank and file Nibiruans who came to earth were named Anu-nakki. Work party, builders, farmers, miners, etc.

At one point there was a dispersion, or a separation of the population, referencing four different locations, ne'er again to meet, at least for millenia. Different tongues, etc. I think those that went to the Indus valley region may have eventually migrated to eastern China and Japan. I suppose you could call them caucasian, if they were originally offspring of the Nephilim.

Nin-gish-zidda was the Nephilim name for Quetzlcoatl. He was perportedly a builder, an engineer and scientist of no small fame. Egyptians knew him as Thoth. He was in charge of the mining expedition in the Americas after the Great Flood which destroyed all the mines in Mesopotamia and Africa.

(His last known location was in Mexico City. Be on the look-out for the Feathered Serpent. Reportedly still at large.:>)

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I've seen someone try to make a link between the comet Encke and Enki.

Comet Phaethons Ride

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I don't know if that was a concidence or not. It's possible that the comets/asteroids which were formed when Niburu and it's moon both smashed into Tiamat (orbiting between Mars and Jupiter at the time) are actually the comets and space debris that has continued to plague the solar system. Perhaps Tiamat, or the remains of the main body, when it re-positioned between Venus and Mars after the collision found a safe haven within its new orbit -- though not entirely, re: Arizona, Russia and possibly the Gulf of Mexico. Mars doesn't appear to be as fortunate. Possibly the researcher really is linking Encke, the debris, etc, with the home planet of Enki, (Niburu) which was responsible for the collision in the first place.

Thanks for the link. Interesting read.

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He said that no Japanese would ever ask a Caucasian directions at a Japanese airport.

Not illogical. I would assume a Caucasian was another tourist. Why would a Japanese assume differently?

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"assume a Caucasian was another tourist."

That's exactly the point.  In New York, it's reasonable to assume anyone who simply looks confident would know his way around, regardless of race.  In racially pure Japan, we have to assume differently.

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ping

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Kennewick Man is believed to be 'primarly' Ainu--you should have written "Ainu like".

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"Kennewick Man is believed to be 'primarly' Ainu--you should have written "Ainu like"."

I'll buy that.

Early on in the 'Kennewick Man' controversy and after a DNA analysis was done (officially, deemed 'inconclusive.') I saw a break-down of the ananlysis, at the top of the list was Ainu = 23% with others like Polynesian and ect following on down the list. After that one time, I've never been able to find that data again. It's not even in the book written by James Chatters, Ancient Encounters, about his studies on Kennewick Man. I guess it's just to PC.

There was a court case from the Indians after a picture of the reconstructed face of 'Spirit Cave Man' was released. He looked very similar to Kennewick Man.

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Ainu like tribes could have (and probably did) come into America via the ice bridge. It also seems Australian Aborigines also populated South America before the arrival of Asian ice bridge peoples.

That does not mean the Amerian ancestors were Europeans or anything like that if Ainu-like.

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"It also seems Australian Aborigines also populated South America before the arrival of Asian ice bridge peoples. "

Yes. It's starting to look like the Aborigines from Oz could be some of the earliest if not the first. (Luzia)

"That does not mean the Amerian ancestors were Europeans or anything like that if Ainu-like."

I agree. The question of the origins of Ainu-Jomon, as far as I'm concerned, is still unsettled. James Chatters has proposed the most palatable (to me) scenerio. That is, that who-ever the Jomon-Ainu ancestors were, they are likely to be the ancestors of present day Europeans, Polynesians and Asians. I think there was a lot of back and forth mixing going on in Siberia >100,000 years ago in a multiregional scheme. The Ainu may have gotten a genetic 'refresh' as early as 5-6,000 from the Euro-Asian steppes. There is limited (some) genetic support for this scenerio.

Now, there does seem to be some evidence of (more recent) Europeans on the east coast of the US, probably arriving in fits and starts themselves.

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Not well understood but the European peoples are in reality Central Asians in our distant past. Even the vowel heavy Indo-European tongues are an indication of a wandering nomadic herder sosciety where sounds had to travel far as they tended their moving flocks.

Nor did our ancestoral features resemble the ones developed in Europe. Arrival in Europe also changed the physical make-up of these people. We forget how clay like our bodies are over generations.

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Now, there does seem to be some evidence of (more recent) Europeans on the east coast of the US, probably arriving in fits and starts themselves.

There is this theory that I read and makes sense-during the Bronze age - tin was such a rare commodity that Phoenicians and other tin searchers travled long and far in search of this commodity. They kept such routes secert from mouth to mouth. When the bronze age came to an end, the value of tin for making bronze evaporated and the routes were forgotten except in some half remembered tales by the Phoenicians that the Greeks picked up on and wrote about. That age probably saw limited colonization maybe a trading fort or something-no women but local Indian women. Some slaves - probably Celtic slaves and or Negro slaves to the Phoenicians? This would explain the cocaine and tobacco found in Egyptian mummies. They were Phoenician trading goods and these Phoenicians lept such routes a trade secret.

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"Arrival in Europe also changed the physical make-up of these people."

Yup. I believe the 'Bushmen' and Negritos were more wide-spread than presently recognized. I am presently re-reading (3rd time) J P Maloy and Victor Mair's book, The Tarim Mummies, fascinating book.

The Curse Of The Red-Headed Mummy

These folks may have made it all the way to Japan...some even believe they are the Ainu but, I don't. Their relatives, The Hakka, did make it to Japan.

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"That age probably saw limited colonization maybe a trading fort or something-no women but local Indian women. Some slaves - probably Celtic slaves and or Negro slaves to the Phoenicians? This would explain the cocaine and tobacco found in Egyptian mummies. They were Phoenician trading goods and these Phoenicians kept such routes a trade secret."

I think that is a reasonable overview and good assumption.

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While the details are my own creation the Phoenecian Bronze age secret trade routes into the Americas was in a book I read called Black Spark, White Fire: Did African Explorers Civilize Ancient Europe? by Richard Poe who is also a Freeper.

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Hmmm

Richard Poe is taking a little 'static' here.