Can we please keep comments about the Mormon faith off the political discussion threads?

...if not out of control.

Control is GOOD!

(Don't you wish that YOU had it!)

...my original comments were mild, neutral, and in no way offensive.

That was LONG ago and far away...

"Not at all. Just having a hard time accepting some of their threads (like this one for example) that I find extremely offensive. I’m at the point that I’m not going to allow any protected LDS/Mormon Caucus threads on FR. You can’t post offensive stuff like this and expect Christians not to object to it. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to suspend or ban or deny any Christian from objecting to what he believes is the false prophecy of Joseph Smith. Whether Mormons will feel welcome here after this or not is completely up to them individually."

Syncro - what you will not hear from du on this subject was that the poster JR was responding to was ABUSING the RF Caucus rules by posting articles hostile to Christianity in a forum that restricted comments. The mormon got into JR's face and he zotted him - like he has done to many other non-mormons.

Du's link is to another mormon who was zotted by JR because he was blog pimping and then personally attacking Freepers on the website he was trying to lure them to in order to ambush them. All the while this same mormon was dissing FR. Once again, du will not provide you the full context of the setting - because the facts speak loudly against him.

The Jews don't believe the Trinity, the First and Second century Christians Don't believe the Trinity, but in 325 AD, the Trinity becomes doctrine.

And of course du must lie about the numerous references and writings regarding the Trinity hundreds of years PRIOR to Nicea.

It's a matter of presentation, not belief, that annoys you?

Hie thee to ~~Kolob~~ the Religion Forum if you want to talk about this stuff!

..and in a galaxy light years off....(g)

(Psst we are being lied about and no one is getting in trouble for the blatant lying, get it?)

Yeah; we 'get' it!

That was part of the point, as for the second, DONE! go ask HIM...

Done dat - got a t-shirt!

There are ways to detect a FALSE prophet described in Bible: JS fits the bill.

There are warnings about angels of light: MORMONism's TWO Personages fit the bill.

Do you REALLY need anything else?

This has been so debunked.

Paragon!

You are BACK!!

Omission is proof of nothing.

We take the Bible very literally.

Hell; you don't even take your OWN 'scriptures' literally!

THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

We take the Bible very literally.

Yeah Joseph and his cronies REALLY took ONE man/ONE wife literally!

For the full refutation of this pernicious lie, see

PD; you'll HAVE to do better than this!

We don't say it, you do by bringing up what we wish you wouldn't because it is very disgusting, I guess that's the point.

Does the royal 'we' include your past leaders who HAVE said it?

I have been around Mormons a lot (being one), and I have NEVER heard a Mormon say that, humm...

You've no doubt READ a lot of MORMON history.

Did you ever READ where a MORMON has said that?

Delph (A Christian and a Mormon)
___________________________________________

NO DU youre either one of the other

youre talking about TWO totally difference religions there

Mormonism is NOT Christianity

The foul practice of polygamy is not part of Christianity..

Idol worship of the pagan Joey Smith is not part of Christianity...

Multiple gods are not part of Christianity...

A non-virgin Mary is not part of Christianity...

Only males going to Heaven is not part of Christianity...

Males becoming gods is not part of Christianity...

Males ruling their own planet is not part of Christianity...

A priesthood system as practiced by the mormons is not part of Christianity

Women as sex slaves in a harem is not part of Christianity...

Women having babies forever is not part of Christianity...

Women being called from their graves by husbands who decide the woman’s fate is not part of Christianity...

Degradation of women through adultery and so called “celestial marriage” is not part of Christianity...

Three levels of Heaven is not part of Christianity

Sex in Heaven is not part of Christianity…

Men marrying their mother-in-law is not part of Christianity…

Men marrying their daughter-in-law is not part of Christianity..

Men marrying their wife’s sister is not part of Christianity

Special underwear are not part of Christianity..

Special ceremony clothes are not part of Christianity…

Joey Smith deciding who gets into Heaven is not part of Christianity...

Joey Smith as the savior is not part of Christianity...

Recognizing and worshipping the blasphemous Joey Smith is not part of Christianty...

Dead dunking is not part of Christianity...

The idol on top of the mormon temples is not part of Christianity...

The mormon temples are not part of Christianity...

Gathering in “zion” whether its in Missouri or Utah is not part of Christianity...

The return of the mormon jesus to Missouri is not part of Christianity...

The belief that the garden of Eden was in Missouri is not part of Christianity...

People living on the sun and the moon is not part of Christianity...

The belief that the mormon jesus visited Central America is not part of Christianity...

Freemasonry as practiced by the mormons is not part of Christianity...

Endowments are not part of Christianity...

The book of mormon is not part of Christianity

The tall tales of Joey Smith are not part of Christianity

Mythical ancient civilizations in Central America are not part of Christianity

The so called “visions” and false prophecies of Joey Smith are not part of Christianity

The mormon Mary having sex with one of the mormon gods is not part of Christianity...

The absence of a cross on a building is not part of Christianity

Pagan and Freemasonry symbols on a building are not part of Christianity

“Going through the temple” is not part of Christianity...

The denial that Jesus is God is not part of Christianity...

The denial that the Holy Ghost is God is not part of Christianity...

The denial of the Trinity is not part of Christianity...

The belief that the mormon god was once a man is not part of Christianity

The belief that the mormon god was a polygamist is not part of Christianity...

The belief that the mormon jesus was a polygamist is not part of Christianity...

The belief that monogamy...one man, one woman...is prostitution is not part of Christianity...

The belief that David went to Hell forever is not part of Christianity.

The belief that David will not be in Heaven is not part of Christianity….

Paying tithes to be saved is not part of Christianity......
Works to be saved is not part of Christianity

Being a member of the mormon corporation is not part of Christianity...

The mormon jesus sweating in the Garden of Gethsemane for “atonement” is not part of Christianity...

The insulting, degrading, blasphemous false religion of mormonism is not Christianity...

I have never stopped MORMONS from practicing their own religion..

They are free to do so...

I do however state once again for the record...

Mormonism is NOT Christianity...

And if that’s considered “nasty” I’m in good company...

Because I’m just agreeing with the God of the Christian Bible...

King James Version included...

Specifically, this is a lie. Whether repeated in ignorance or knowledge it is still a lie.

It IS?

Big claim.

Let's just see some comments IMPORTANT Mormons have said about the subject:

http://mormondeception.blogspot.com/

Call an anti a name and you're out of here.

HA ha ha!

Your buddies are still here in THIS thread after 'calling us names'.

Golly; you must be a LIAR!

Ah well, do we have a real conservative in the race? Can they stand up please?

She is.

...and arrogance and giving Jim the virtual finger.

IMHO what should not be allowed on a forum that purports to be about Conservatism is a “which hunt” by an opponent of any religion or anyone trying to redefine any religion in a negative light. Conservatives are by definition pro-religion. The prohibition on attacking religions goes for anti-Catholics, anti-Baptists, anti-Mormons... all anti’s; In order to preserve the power of this forum anyone who spends all their time bashing any religion should be asked to leave.

"IMHO what should not be allowed on a forum that purports to be about Conservatism is a ~~“which hunt”~~ "convert hunt" by an ~~opponent~~ proponent of any religion or anyone trying to redefine ~~any religion~~ Christianity in a negative light"...by teaching the fictional anti-Christian, polytheistic doctrine of mormonism.

To refresh your memory DU, THIS was the mormon declaration that was the tipping point for Jim Robinson. Joseph Smith: An Apostle of Jesus Christ See post #1459 by JR: "If you’re going to make false claims or comparisons about Christianity on this forum, do not expect NOT to be called on it."

You state: " The prohibition on attacking religions goes for anti-Catholics, anti-Baptists, anti-Mormons... all anti’s;"

I notice you don't include "attacking Christianity by claiming that the only way to salvation is through subjugating oneself to the dictates of fifteen old white men in Salt Lake City, and paying for the privilege of doing so in coerced tithing."

When those fifteen old men recall the 52,000 missionaries out spreading the lies about Christianity worldwide and stop spending millions every year on TV and radio advertising to spread those lies, you may have a leg to stand on in your attempt to censor this forum.

BTW, I suggest caution in calling for other FReepers to be "asked to leave".