Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[hoosiermama]

Concur.

If you look at the letters the words themselves have been made more intense...almost in bold...Document has been darkened, therefore the footprints also appear darker.... It doesn't rule out the original just because a secondary has been altered to make it more readable.

[Tennessee Nana]

Interesting..

I dont know what I’m looking at... but interesting...

:)

[Tennessee Nana]

I wonder if states are uniform but slightly different in that “Date accepted by state registrar” thingy...

One of my children was born in Oregon 1974 “ Date received by local registrar”

The other in South Carolina, 1979 “Date received by registar”

But its still just the date stamp of accepting the document, not when the clerks got around to actually “filing” the information..

BTW both documents are “Certificate of Live Birth”

:)

[mojitojoe]

Of course it’s fake. That Lucas guy is a nut case. I agree with Ron.

[David]

Here’s an email from Polarik, received a few minutes ago: “The Lucas Video shows a forged BC. The baby’s footprint immediately gives it away. “Secondly, he is intentionally keeping the BC moving so that it cannot be examined. “Every image and photo (and now video) purported to be Obama’s real BC is bogus.”

It can't be what it purports to be and have a copy of the footprint I don't think. A copy of the original record might and probably should show the footprint--but that wouldn't be a certificate. In many US jurisdictions, you can get a photocopy of the original record with footpring with a certificate incorporate on the photocopy with a raised seal. Doesn't look like that is what this is.

Polarik had comments on the Orly Certificate some of which I thought were not well founded. In one case, he was clearly looking at the certificate after it had been hacked and the hacked document was clearly a fraud.

Other comments about the institution which may have been on the pre-hacked version are not so clear.

The Orly certificate was issued after the October 3, 1963 agreement in which Zanzibar ceded Coastal Province to "The Republic of Kenya" (even though no such entity existed). There are several news articles some of which BP2 (I believe) posted describing why the local administrative agencies immediately changed their name to Republic of Kenya.

The Coast Provincial General Hospital was no long a "Provincial" entity at that point because it was no longer in a province of Zanzibar.

It isn't obvious to me why that certificate (pre hacked) is "bogus". It would be helpful if Polarik could tell us however this is the second time I have asked.

[MeekOneGOP]

Yessiree!

Ernest Hemingway BIRTH CERTIFICATE Research Document
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390069665475

[Candor7]

This Ebay Ploy is a disinfomation campaign to make "Birthers" look idiotic.

We have a very real issue, and the left knows it.

We are being baited.

The best place to be on Obama COLB issue is in Federal Court, or in the Governors Office with a referendum motion for a vote to release the data.

[hoosiermama]

Folks let's not make any conclusions:

First, we are not only dealing with different states, but different countries and cultures. FOrms from different departments: hospital, Registrar and even officer of a state.

Second, We are dealing with different times....Things are not always how they are today. Forms change, procedures change, requirements change.

Even dealing with similar documents they may be different: For example compare the Noble Birth Certificate: # 48310 Brn 1907 BC issued in 1967 by officer of the state isn't anything like the BCs BP posted earlier, and yet it is a legitamate BC from HI.

None of us have the expertise or facilities to authenticate any of the documents....In contrast neither do we have either to declare them faux. The most we can do is question inconsistancies.

“The real BC” will be hidden in sight. BOs minions are producing ones to confuse and keep an authentic one hidden.

OTOH Bo cannot be certain that he has scrubbed all documents. If the real thing appears, the minions will place doubt in our minds. Each one we examine that they haven't created will cause a reaction.....We saw that reaction when Orly/Smith who were both being discussed the first of this month....

[Candor7]

Agreed. The left is VERY desperate on this issue.

[rxsid]

Perhaps some good "news" (pun intended) here regarding Dr. Taitz's upcoming court hearing Keyes v Obama & potential for the court to verify the alleged (copy of) Kenyan B.C.:

Fox news stated that they will be in the courtroom on Sept. 8

Mary Anne McKiernan talked to one of the producers from Fox news, he identified himself as Pier, he stated that they feel that Sept 8 hearing is important and newsworthy and they will be in the courtroom

"http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=4027"

[little jeremiah]

placemark.

[BP2]

That's what makes this whole birth certificate issue truly asinine.

What better way to throw off any TRUE birth certificate that may emerge than to flood the internet with fakes, so that IF/WHEN the real one pops up, it's plausibility is thrown in doubt like the rest.

Nobody seems to know FOR SURE what Ann in the months from approximately Feb - Aug 1961. She may have left in December 1960 as far as we know after school in Hawaii ended.

And as much as the Left says they “know” Obama was born in Hawaii, they only are reporting the “facts” of the Certification, which as we know can exist based upon a document issued from another state or country.

That's why refuting or confirming these purported birth certificates are so important. We can't rely on “gut” feelings, although that DOES help steer the direction of investigation. Confirming facts, such as when the Republic of Kenya existed, the name of a Registrar, or if footprints are on hospital-issued birth certificates is the best way to confirm if a red herring is actually a smoking gun.

[BP2]

[hoosiermama]

Was reading through comments on some of the links from this thread today. There was a new comment posted today. It said that Orley was asking the Court to obtain the original BC she has a copy of from the National Archive near London. That she had confirmation that it was there....Does anyone know anything about this?

Sorry I didn’t mark the blog, but it was one of the ones with pictures of either Orly’s or MR SMITH’s bc as that was what I was comparing.

[hoosiermama]

We are being baited.

Or the Initials are baiting BO. Remember he doesn't know there aren't copies out there. Everytime we examine what's put up, he has to too. (Unless he has been given prior knowledge that it's going up/conspiracy)

SOOOO the "farm" may be setting him up for a sting.....at least we won't be spending time behind bars....Thank you MR SMITH.

[hoosiermama]

She may have left in December 1960 as far as we know after school in Hawaii ended.

With her grades(1.3??), my bet is she left before finals....Before she turned 18. Remember she couldn't get married in HI until after her birthday....So she elopes to Kenya, and gets maried there.

[Tennessee Nana]

possibly...

i was born in a British Commonwealth country in 1948 and a copy of my birth certificate/info is in the Archives in England...

If i wanted to I could get one from there

[hoosiermama]

Orly DID stop in London on her way to Isreal and Russia.....HMMMM.

[faucetman]

The attitude here is mostly the correct one to have. Throw it all up against the wall and see (not IF it sticks but) HOW LONG IT STICKS. EVERYTHING should stick at least for a short time. Sometimes it might fall off and we have to throw it back up there. (lesson on that one is don’t be so quick to want it to fall off). I don’t know about this Smith BC. At first look it seems bogus mostly because of Smith himself. But, I thought the Bomford BC looked real. We can’t seem to make Orly’s BC fall off. As someone else said “Corsi should run his stories through here first” I agree. The people here are awesome. Great minds, with great skills.

[Tennessee Nana]

They know your name in Alaska...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2326214/posts?page=1

You are doing something right...

:)