Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link

orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

[rxsid]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)

[1000 silverlings]

I think so and why “African” for babydaddy appears on the Hawaii COLB

[LTC.Ret]

So is Mr. Soetoro still alive? Would he have this BC in order to register little Barry into the Indonesian school? Would he need this copy of the BC in order to go to court and adopt Barry? Would it really matter to him if Barry is Constitutionally prohibited from being POTUS? What about the Soetoro relatives? Might they have found this document while going through Mr. Soetoro’s files or estate? Could this be a way of cashing in on a good paycheck now? Could it have been in Barry’s school files in Indonesia? If this is a real document, I think it’s likely origin is Soetoro/Indonesia.

[null and void]

There was a YouTube video (now removed) of high school classmate Susan Black, who recall Ann’s visit with a newborn called Barry in late summer ‘61 when he was just a few weeks old. She said that Ann asked for help changing the baby’s diaper.

Susan Blake. She said she showed Stanley Ann how to change a diaper.

[DJ MacWoW]

If this is real, there are going to be some tough decisions.

[Danae]

He has sent me a few private messages. I have reason to hold back deciding one way or another as to who he is. Or isn’t. I am just waiting to see. Until then, we will see what he has to say, or not say.

[aruanan]

Okay, so this was a quite recent thing. If, for the sake of argument, we take it for granted that Fukino's statement was not misinformed or suborned, and that he was, indeed, born in Hawaii, then the question remains about why, on this issue, Obama has been completely obfuscatory. One thing is that his records in Hawaii would also contain the records of his adoption by Lolo Soetoro when Barry's mother gave up her citizenship to become his wife under Indonesian law. Under U.S. law at the time, the child's citizenship (Barry's) followed that of the custodial parent (Stanley), meaning that he also became an Indonesian citizen and that if he ever did regain his U.S. citizenship, it would only have been as a naturalized citizen, one ineligible to hold the office of President. Now, that's something he'd really want to hide.

[Marie]

Can any plausible argument be made that he is a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN”? I’m just playing devils advocate here..

I *think* that the answer is "no". Either he'd be a Kenyan citizen or he's be a dual citizen until adulthood, then he could choose to be a US citizen exclusively. (Dual citizenship.) If the latter is the case, he'd be a "naturalized citizen", not "natural born".

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Happy Birthday retrokitten!!!

You don’t ‘post’ a day over 29!!!

;)PM

[Diggity]

Kenya became independent in Dec 1963

[dalight]

You won’t stop him with a forgery. I’ll wait for authentication.

This is where you are not making any sense. I am not stopping him, not in any way, it is way beyond my ability. Whether you let your heart believe this is real or not, it doesn't matter. Wait all you like. If you are some national columnist who writes for ABC News or something, your waiting will just mean that this piece of news will move into the public consciousness via other routes.

It is lame, to say, mmm.. I will wait for authentication. Cool, but lame.

If you remember, this conversation started with my wondering why Drudge and Hot Air haven't run with it.. and you are arguing that they will wait for 30 days while this is completely settled and the President is in full, this doesn't matter mode.. as the Military is refusing to take orders because at the end of your wait, we will have a crisis if this is the real McCoy.

But you are arguing to let the status quo wait, and that is stupid. The untenable situation is the President's refusal to release documents that could and should have already been released to the American Public before the election so they could make an informed choice. And this is independent of this one scrap of paper which would be a game changer if it is fully authenticated.

We can't afford to wait to insist that what can be released from American sources be immediately released with all appropriate secondary documentation and put an end to this or have it out in the Public Domain for decisions to be made and people to be held accountable.

[jcsjcm]

I’m only going on what I’ve read, however, and can’t vouch for whether being born to an unwed 17yo American abroad would have indeed deprived him of automatic US citizenship.

It would deprive him of his citizenship since at that time she would have to have lived in the United States for 5 years after the age of 14. She wasn't 19 when she had him, so he is disqualified.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

If you honestly think the half of America that are drinking Zer0's kool aid, and their propagandists, are going to accept this, you are seriously deluded.

You hide and watch the power of the people, suckah!

[rodguy911]

Are you talking about orly?she is rather well know here.

[RatsDawg]

That’s probably why Obama did all that campaigning for his cousin in Kenya.

[null and void]

The Congress is endowed with an acute survival instinct. If public opinion becomes so plain that individual congressmen and senators understand that their sinecures are on the line, they will vote to impeach.

Indeed.

Lots of town meetings this month, folks...

[Nasher]

This thread just blew by 2000. At this rate could it reach 5000+?

[Danae]

The judge stated in court that the case will be heard on it’s merits. Obama had 60 days to respond to the Service of the Documents (The Judge pulled a couple of Federal DA’s into the court room in order to provide Service to Obama) so the 60 day timer is ticking.

I think this means that Keys has standing because it was not summarily thrown out for a lack of standing.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

We’ve checked DU—they just think that Orly is taking everybody for a ride.

In that case, they're probably chamfing at the bit to see the original documentation and make asses of the Birthers once and for all.

[Jedidah]

Sorry. Typo.

[SatinDoll]

Orly is going to London to look at the Colonial records because when Obama was born, Kenya was still a part of the British Empire. There is no need to go to Kenya. She is verifying the original entry of his birth in 1961, not the copy of 1964. Does that make any sense?

The records in Kenya are too likely to have been tampered with and would be useless.