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Ancient Chihuahuas in Southeastern U.S.?
Lost Worlds ^ | February 14, 2012 | Gary C. Daniels

Posted on 11/30/2014 5:29:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Do three dog effigy pots excavated in Georgia in the 1930s at the Bull Creek Site and one from the Neisler Mound site represent the Chihuahua breed, a native dog of Mexico? Is the tribe most likely associated with these pots the Kasihta/Cussetta Creek Indians whose migration legends strongly suggest an origin in west Mexico, likely the state of Colima which is also known for similar dog effigy pots?

Did the Kasihta raise Chihuahuas for food which they fattened up for this purpose as depicted by the pots and as recorded by early Spanish eye-witness accounts? Finally, does this evidence overturn all the conjecture and theories of possible Old World influence on the origin of the Chihuahua and prove that it is purely a New World dog that dates back at least to 100 AD in Mexico?

In 1937 archaeologists unearthed three dog effigy pots from the Bull Creek site in Muscogee County, Georgia. The final report on the site only devoted a few paragraphs to the discussion of these pots...

In 1979 the Bull Creek negative painted pottery was given the type name Nashville Negative Painted variety Columbus and was considered a local copy of similar vessels from the northwest (Williams 1979). More recently Scarry gave the Bull Creek pots a new type status as Columbus Negative Painted variety Columbus (Scarry 1985:213).

Schnell has noted on several occasions that only four examples of the Bull Creek varieties of negative painted dog pots are known to exist (Schnell 1990:69). This conclusion has been reaffirmed through communications of both Schnell and the senior author with individuals knowledgeable of the antiquities market in the region. The recovery of three-fourths of the known examples of this vessel form from a single site, Bull Creek, does represent a unique occurrence.”

(Excerpt) Read more at lostworlds.org ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
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To: Flag_This

For that matter, how did they even eat? ;’)


21 posted on 11/30/2014 6:46:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: Flag_This

“That’s all right. I’m not hungry.”


22 posted on 11/30/2014 6:46:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: SunkenCiv

Chihuachacabra :-)


23 posted on 11/30/2014 7:32:33 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Sounds tasty, but that 12 pack of tacos is hard to turn down.


24 posted on 11/30/2014 8:07:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: SunkenCiv; Slings and Arrows
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25 posted on 11/30/2014 8:51:07 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: SunkenCiv

Love that page. I live less than a mile from the discovery site of the sweetwater petroglyph.


26 posted on 11/30/2014 8:57:52 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: SunkenCiv

Very interesting article, but not my favorite dog-I’ve been to the ruins of Casas Grandes several times, once when my cousin’s husband was doing some work there. I’ve seen the Chihuahua pots and other beautiful things from there, and little arrowheads for shooting game birds-called “bird points”-duh...

There are lots of interesting tidbits of construction there-inhabitants built covered canals that carried water around the place, and there was what looks like a central wellhouse.

From the evidence still visible, the massacre that took place there must have been awful-even the animal pens show signs of fire.


27 posted on 11/30/2014 9:49:23 AM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Obviously, an ancient civilization had been visited by prehistoric Vietnamese and taught to subsist upon domestic small animals herded on spiraling mounds. More evidence for that prehistoric overland land bridge from Vietnam to South America. /s


28 posted on 11/30/2014 9:55:11 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Not nippy enough.


29 posted on 11/30/2014 11:03:40 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("I Only Love You When I'm Drunk" - http://youtu.be/uT-tCbvfDUg)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yep

And they weighed over 100 lbs

Which explains where all those civilizations went..


30 posted on 11/30/2014 11:05:55 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: Joe 6-pack; SunkenCiv

Interesting. The funny thing is that I have a unique collection of pottery ‘pots’ similar to this that I bought down in Mexico over the years.

Some have 4 different heads on them, some a head on opposite sides.


31 posted on 11/30/2014 3:14:08 PM PST by potlatch ("Dream as if you'll live forever...Live as if you'll die today")
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To: dljordan

Some chihuahua’s can be scary because they are miniture guard dogs. They guard their house, their person (s) and their food. Other than that, mine loves nothing more than to burrow under some nice warm blankets and sleep.


32 posted on 11/30/2014 7:04:21 PM PST by tob2 (The autumn leaves .......,.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I guess when you are starving anything would taste good. However, eating dog, especially your beloved pet is just gross!


33 posted on 11/30/2014 7:08:57 PM PST by tob2 (The autumn leaves .......,.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Fascinating. I hadn't heard about the possible Georgia-Maya connection before.

Whole lotta moving around in the Americas before Columbus' arrival.

34 posted on 12/01/2014 1:37:38 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

I have been all over the Bull Creek area and worked on my second archaeological project at Fort Gaines, GA, which is called “Chemochechobee”. The site, which is more than 50 miles South of the Bull Creek site, consists of a three mound site and huge village area on the Chattahooche River. Another dog effigy pot was excavated there by my colleague, friend, and mentor, Don Gordy. I have no professional comment to make on the pots, given my absence from Southeastern archaeology for 20 years, but I do possess a similar dog effigy, which was made at the Tesuque Pueblo in New Mexico in the early 1900’s. It is very nicely made and beautifully decorated with black linear lines and red. On the back of the dog is a coin slot! This made was made for tourists, probably in the 1920’s.


35 posted on 12/01/2014 4:36:20 PM PST by Nucluside (ready)
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To: tob2

Made the whole breed kinda mean.


36 posted on 12/03/2014 6:51:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: colorado tanker

Someone’s working on the research at long leash.


37 posted on 12/03/2014 7:50:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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