Ancient Chihuahuas in Southeastern U.S.?

Lost Worlds ^ | February 14, 2012 | Gary C. Daniels

[SunkenCiv]

Do three dog effigy pots excavated in Georgia in the 1930s at the Bull Creek Site and one from the Neisler Mound site represent the Chihuahua breed, a native dog of Mexico? Is the tribe most likely associated with these pots the Kasihta/Cussetta Creek Indians whose migration legends strongly suggest an origin in west Mexico, likely the state of Colima which is also known for similar dog effigy pots?

Did the Kasihta raise Chihuahuas for food which they fattened up for this purpose as depicted by the pots and as recorded by early Spanish eye-witness accounts? Finally, does this evidence overturn all the conjecture and theories of possible Old World influence on the origin of the Chihuahua and prove that it is purely a New World dog that dates back at least to 100 AD in Mexico?

In 1937 archaeologists unearthed three dog effigy pots from the Bull Creek site in Muscogee County, Georgia. The final report on the site only devoted a few paragraphs to the discussion of these pots...

In 1979 the Bull Creek negative painted pottery was given the type name Nashville Negative Painted variety Columbus and was considered a local copy of similar vessels from the northwest (Williams 1979). More recently Scarry gave the Bull Creek pots a new type status as Columbus Negative Painted variety Columbus (Scarry 1985:213).

Schnell has noted on several occasions that only four examples of the Bull Creek varieties of negative painted dog pots are known to exist (Schnell 1990:69). This conclusion has been reaffirmed through communications of both Schnell and the senior author with individuals knowledgeable of the antiquities market in the region. The recovery of three-fourths of the known examples of this vessel form from a single site, Bull Creek, does represent a unique occurrence.”

[SunkenCiv]

Dog Effigy Pot from Bull Creek Site (Courtesy Columbus Museum)

[Perdogg]

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[Flick Lives]

Sabre Tooth Chihuahua. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[dljordan]

“Sabre Tooth Chihuahua. Be afraid. Be very afraid.”

Chihuahuasaurus, now that is terror.

[SunkenCiv]

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[W.]

Could it be the smarties are trying to read too much into the oversize dog-pot? Perhaps it’s a growler for taking home one’s beer ration, and who’d want a small one of those? OTOH, if chihuahuas were raised as food items, it would explain their universally nervous behavior...

[SunkenCiv]

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[bert]

the solution lies in the translation from the Spanish

[trebb]

We developed ankles because chihuahuas needed something to bite - evolution works that way dontyaknow...

[SunkenCiv]

Ochesee, Mother Town of the Muscogee
Lamar Village Site
Ocmulgee National Monument
Macon, Georgia
Article and Model by Richard L. Thornton
Commissioned by the Muscogee (Creek) Nation of Oklahoma
2005
http://www.perdidobaytribe.org/education/ancient-treasures/ochesee
http://www.perdidobaytribe.org/system/files/images/Ochesee-SGA%20C.jpg

http://lostworlds.org/muskogee-creek-indians-west-mexico/

http://lostworlds.org/tag/creek-indians/

http://lostworlds.org/tag/creek-migration-legend/

http://lostworlds.org/tag/mississippian-period/

Lost Worlds: Georgia| Part 6: Ocmulgee Indian Mounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZWyHEg9ELg

http://www.nps.gov/stateoftheparks/ocmu/culturalresources/historicstructures.cfm

The Vera Cruz-Georgia Connection
http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/the-vera-cruz-georgia-connection

http://lostworlds.org/ancient-walled-city-older-egypts-pyramids-unearthed-georgia-coast/

[SunkenCiv]

There’s nothing to be read into the firsthand first contact accounts which describe the dogs. The “smarties” generally claim that the Euros were unable to distinguish a breed of dog from an opossum.

[ClearCase_guy]

I call Bull Creek on this theory.

[NewCenturions]

Their art is so primitive that you can’t tell what animal that is.

[ClearCase_guy]

I thought the same thing, actually. Certainly they used a lot of jaguar motifs. If the artist made a really bad jaguar, perhaps it would look like a Chihuahua.

[SunkenCiv]

The next morning, I found myself in that Indian camp all alone. But the Cheyenne, who call themselves the Human Beings, had no idea to hurt me. I was an honoured guest and they gave me a treat. Boiled dog. Dog ain't bad, neither. Greasy, I'll admit, but you'd be surprised how delicate the flavour is, especially when you're starving.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks, but I’ll stick with the testimony of the first contact Euro accounts and the preponderance of evidence, namely the dog effigy pots common to both cultures.

[W.]

Wow, that IS smrt!

[Flag_This]

"Dog ain't bad, neither."

I wonder if the Contraries ate cat instead...