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Living with humans has taught dogs morals, say scientists
The Daily Mail UK ^ | 21st August 2008 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 08/21/2008 6:11:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

Dogs are becoming more intelligent and are even learning morals from human contact, scientists claim.

They say the fact that dogs' play rarely escalates into a fight shows the animals abide by social rules.

During one study, dogs which held up a paw were rewarded with a food treat.

When a lone dog was asked to raise its paw but received no treat, the researchers found it begged for up to 30 minutes.

But when they tested two dogs together but rewarded only one, the dog which missed out soon stopped playing the game.

Dr Friederike Range, of the University of Vienna, who led the study, said: 'Dogs show a strong aversion to inequity. I would prefer not to call it a sense of fairness, but others might.'

The first Canine Science Forum in Budapest was attended by more than 200 experts to discuss what is going on inside the mind of a dog.

Human's inclination to invest dogs with human-like states of mind isn't as unscientific as it might appear as they really do have some remarkable mental skills that allow them to thrive in their strange habitat - our world.

Domestic dogs evolved from grey wolves as recently as 10,000 years ago since when their brains have shrunk so a wolf-sized dog has a brain around 10 per cent smaller than its wild ancestor.

Dr Peter Pongracz from Eotvos Lorand University, Budapest, and colleagues have produced evidence dog barks contain information that people can understand.

They found even people who have never owned a dog can recognise the emotional 'meaning' of barks produced in various situations, such as when playing, left alone and confronted by a stranger.

His team has now developed a computer program that can aggregate hundreds of barks recorded in various settings and boil them

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; behavior; canine; canines; dietandcuisine; dog; doggieping; dogs; domestication; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; wolves
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To: metmom

The lefties and evos probably think this elevates dogs

when all it really does is devalue humans.


41 posted on 08/21/2008 2:22:52 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: MrB

//when all it really does is devalue humans//

Maybe thats the underlying point.


42 posted on 08/21/2008 2:38:17 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Alex Murphy
Dr Peter Pongracz from Eotvos Lorand University, Budapest, and colleagues have produced evidence dog barks contain information that people can understand.


43 posted on 08/21/2008 2:38:56 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: metmom
For your reading enjoyment:

Living with humans has taught dogs morals, say scientists

Wha......are they f'ing retarded or something? Thanks for the ping, but I'm not really interested in reading nonsense like this.

44 posted on 08/21/2008 7:00:57 PM PDT by csense
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To: csense

Like I said.....

And evos wonder why people don’t take scientists seriously.


45 posted on 08/21/2008 7:03:06 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ZULU

Every one wonders why dogs pee on car tires.
If you had a dog’s nose, it would be like a dotted line
right back home.

I’ve heard it said that if a man could suddenly smell as much as a dog it would drive him insane.
Imagine, you’d know when every female in the neighborhood was in heat.


46 posted on 08/21/2008 7:10:53 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: palomonte
my brother learned how to lick his balls.

Do y'all make sure he gets some food once in a while?

47 posted on 08/21/2008 7:16:48 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: WayneS

“That and having a lot of ammo on hand...”

Now if you could train your dog to police up you brass...


48 posted on 08/21/2008 7:29:12 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Alex Murphy
I have a Golden retriever & I was buying a large bag of Purina at Wal-Mart and was in line to check out. A woman behind me asked if I had a dog. On impulse, I told her that no, I was starting The Purina Diet again, although I probably shouldn't because I'd ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.

I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry & that the food is nutritionally complete so I was going to try it again.

I have to mention here that practically everyone in the line was by now enthralled with my story, particularly a guy who was behind her. Horrified, she asked if I'd ended up in the hospital in that condition because I had been poisoned. I told her no; it was because I'd been sitting in the street licking my gonads and a car hit me.

I thought one guy was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard as he staggered out the door.

49 posted on 08/21/2008 7:40:41 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

I tried that story once, with ‘chased a car and ran into a bus stop sign’ at the end.


50 posted on 08/21/2008 7:46:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: numberonepal

Keepin’ the water bowl full is more important in these cases.


51 posted on 08/21/2008 7:49:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
I was starting The Purina Diet again, although I probably shouldn't because I'd ended up in the hospital last time

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.

52 posted on 08/21/2008 8:19:18 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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To: metmom

Thanks for the ping!


53 posted on 08/21/2008 9:18:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tet68

Interesting observations.


54 posted on 08/22/2008 8:24:23 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom

One wonders what a dog would do with morals, since the sum total of their societal obligations is emptying their food dish, and depositing the processed remains out of doors.


55 posted on 08/24/2008 3:24:11 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Note: this topic is from 8/21/2008. Thanks Alex Murphy.

56 posted on 09/19/2015 6:52:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: South Hawthorne

Seek a 12 step program. You’ve already completed the first step admitting there’s a problem.


57 posted on 09/19/2015 7:02:05 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Alex Murphy

Then why are so many humans amoral?


58 posted on 09/19/2015 9:12:40 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."- George Washington)
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To: SunkenCiv

I think they’ve got this backwards. just sayin...


59 posted on 09/20/2015 9:36:55 PM PDT by KGeorge (Hell, no. We ain't forgettin'!)
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To: Alex Murphy

An elementary biology class would teach you the value of this Lamark nonsense.


60 posted on 09/21/2015 12:32:12 PM PDT by curmudgeonII (Vocatus atque non vocatus deus aderit.)
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