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I won't name the board where most of IH is at now, but you can send me a PM if you haven't found us yet.

To the rest of you...

I can't believe the way you guys treated this guy. He was not trying to spam this board. IH is down, and will not be coming back. Obviously, there is a place here where his post would have been more appropriate, but he didn't know where it was. He was NOT recruiting, he was just lost. Sheesh!

Never mind about mention of that "coming 3 days" thing. After catching up a bit, I see the date discrepancy has already been pointed out!

>>>http://64.246.51.45/vb/showthread.php?s=e8cd9271cf964b321472b598ade9961e&threadid=102891

>>>After the end of February º you will be on the receiving end of Al Qaeda

>>>And it will appear that the attack will be a surprise and without previous warning.

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I am way behind on this thread, so I have no idea how seriously this info is being taken. A few things I noticed:

1) The date on the web page itself is April 2003.

2) A time of "after the end" of February.

3) 100 staircases for 100 militants in the coming three days

4) There is a "confused" smiley at the top. Maybe someone
was evaluating some bogus threat that never came to
pass...in 2003?

I'm sure you know about it already, but just in case you don't, Linda Vester is having a show on tonight about those "special interest" illegal aliens coming across the Mexican border.

>>>Only problem I foresee with that option is where the rice comes from. With things as they are, food sources should be somewhat scrutinized.

Don't worry too much about that rice. Arkansas produces at least half of all of our country's rice. The world's largest exporter is Thailand, with India and Vietnam coming in second and third, the U.S. is fourth, with China coming in fifth. I have no idea if, or how much, rice is imported from China by the U.S.. Check your bags of rice. All of mine comes from Arkansas.

A couple of years ago I was driving through Arkansas, on my way to Spring River for a canoe trip. My friend said she felt so sad that the poor farmers' fields were so flooded, and that they would lose so many crops. I had a good laugh over that one!

>>>After more than 120 students checked into the Health Center and St. Mary's hospital during the first week of the outbreak, another 24 students reported symptoms Monday and 21 did the same on Tuesday.

--24 "reported symptoms" Monday, 21 on Tuesday

>>>Officials at St. Mary's Hospital said no students checked in there Tuesday, claiming they had the virus, but two did Monday. Athens Regional Medical Center officials were unavailable for comment.

--No students "checked in" Tuesday, two did Monday

Maybe a bit misleading, but not really a contradiction.

Trains don't just start rolling. They have brakes. That is the responsibility of the brakeman. Either they weren't set on purpose, they were faulty, or someone disengaged them.

My 4 year old son was sitting in my lap when I clicked on the Dragon Tales links. He made me get up and dance! He always makes me dance with him during the music breaks on the show. He loves to "shake his dragon tail"! :)

I think some of you are confused about why I posted about CX. I did not post his comments about any threats to the U.S., I purposely didn't include them because, like most, I give them no credence. It was merely the "rabid" American reference. Someone had posted a machine translation of some arabic that came out as "dog disease". Several people were thinking along the line of actual diseases. I was giving an example of an arabic speaker using the term "rabid American", which, in my opinion, makes more sense.

I do remember reading somewhere, could have been here for all I know, that there was a concern about the pilots, or flight crew. Anybody else read or hear anything about that?

Posted by CX at IH:

>>>muslims were told to leave the country of america three months ago. we know you will flip out.. no news there.
american muslims would and should hide from rabid americans...especially the arab americans should not go to mosque in america if they are still there and practice worship at home as prophet mohammad(saws) told us all when this event occurs.

http://www.itshappening.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28541

I think you're right on with the machine translation of "dog disease". There is a poster over at IH called CX who was warning muslims in America to stay away from mosques and worship at home after the attacks, in order to stay away from RABID Americans. It seemed to me that he was simply referring to the possibility of retaliation by angry Americans. I'll go back over there and get a link.

The regulars over at IH seem to believe there are possibly three different people posting as Daleel. I have been lurking over there for about a month. I believe there are at least two posting as Daleel. One of them has a rather calm demeanor, while one of them is as foulmouthed as they come. Daleel does not claim to be part of AQ. It seems he is just repeating what he finds on the militant islamic sites. SP2BF stated that she has seen things that he posts about on some of the militant islamic sites before he posted them. Her evidence suggests that he is definitely not on the "inside".

Thank you.

Very well said cabal.

Speaking for myself and any other newbies out there, what is DU? I've seen several people mention it, but I haven't been able to figure it out.

Never mind that last post. I just clicked on that site's homepage. Seems a bit anti-american to say the least. I wish I had seen it before I linked to it.

I just found this a few minutes ago. I figured you would be interested, knowing your position on border control. I've never heard the term "OTM" before. This is not an official "news" site. It just looks like some individuals fed up with the lack of border control.

>>>Ann and I have been saying for months now that our borders are wide open and totally accessible to anyone who cares to cross them, especially in the New Mexico desert.

>>>Ann and I have repeatedly called US Border Patrol and the Luna County Sheriff's Department about our spotting OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) walking through the desert on a daily basis. Amazingly, every time we've called, nothing has been done, no official has shown up.

>>>OK. OK...The sheriff's department showed up once, but found nothing. The reason? It was raining and muddy and would be impossible to locate anyone in that weather. As for US Border Patrol, they just never showed up, period.

http://www.wwviews.com/columnists/denisquivering.html

Granny, have you heard of this before? Do you, or others in your neck of the woods, have experiences similar to this with "OTM's"? Just wondering how many people have noticed this. I'm not sure I would know just by "looking" whether someone was Mexican or not. I know one personally who is red headed! You would not know he was Mexican unless he opened his mouth.

>>>What good is a theory if it can not withstand some challenge?

Wholeheartedly agree!

Sorry, didn't realize how long that was. Should have just posted a snippet and a link!

My 2 cents says that Russia doesn't either. Putin is a former military man. He knows the problems of the Russian military better than anyone, and all the money made from dealings with Iraq probably went to strengthen their military. But, I just don't think he would be dumb enough to strike.
I found this interesting article concerning Russia's relationship with Iraq from the Washington Times over at IH:

Ex-spy fingers Russians on WMD


By Ion Mihai Pacepa



On March 20, Russian PresidentVladimir Putin denounced the U.S.-led "aggression" against Iraq as "unwarranted" and "unjustifiable." Three days later, Pravda said that an anonymous Russian "military expert" was predicting that the United States would fabricate finding Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov immediately started plying the idea abroad, and it has taken hold around the world ever since.
As a former Romanian spy chief who used to take orders from the Soviet KGB, it is perfectly obvious to me that Russia is behind the evanescence of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. After all, Russia helped Saddam get his hands on them in the first place. The Soviet Union and all its bloc states always had a standard operating procedure for deep sixing weapons of mass destruction — in Romanian it was codenamed "Sarindar, meaning "emergency exit."Iimplemented it in Libya. It was for ridding Third World despots of all trace of their chemical weapons if the Western imperialists ever got near them. We wanted to make sure they would never be traced back to us, and we also wanted to frustrate the West by not giving them anything they could make propaganda with.
All chemical weapons were to be immediately burned or buried deep at sea. Technological documentation, however, would be preserved in microfiche buried in waterproof containers for future reconstruction. Chemical weapons, especially those produced in Third Worldcountries,which lack sophisticated production facilities, often do not retainlethal properties after a few months on the shelf and are routinely dumped anyway. And all chemical weapons plants had a civilian cover making detection difficult, regardless of the circumstances.
The plan included an elaborate propaganda routine. Anyone accusing Moammar Gadhafi of possessing chemical weapons would be ridiculed. Lies, all lies! Come to Libya and see! Our Western left-wing organizations, like the World Peace Council, existed for sole purpose of spreading the propaganda we gave them. These very same groups bray the exact same themes to this day. We always relied on their expertise at organizing large street demonstrations in Western Europe over America'swar-mongering whenever we wanted to distract world attention from the crimes of the vicious regimes we sponsored.
Iraq, in my view, had its own "Sarindar" plan in effect direct from Moscow. It certainly had one in the past. Nicolae Ceausescu told me so, and he heard it from Leonid Brezhnev. KGB chairman Yury Andropov, and later, Gen. Yevgeny Primakov, told me so too. In the late 1970s, Gen. Primakov ran Saddam's weapons programs. After that, as you may recall, he was promoted to head of the Soviet foreign intelligence service in 1990, to Russia's minister of foreign affairs in 1996, and in 1998, to prime minister. What you may not know is that Primakov hates Israel and has always championed Arab radicalism. He was a personal friend of Saddam's and has repeatedly visited Baghdad after 1991, quietly helping Saddam play his game of hide-and-seek.
The Soviet bloc not only sold Saddam its WMDs, but it showed them how to make them "disappear." Russia is still at it. Primakov was in Baghdad from December until a couple of days before the war, along with a team of Russian military experts led by two of Russia's topnotch "retired"generals,Vladislav Achalov, a former deputy defense minister, and Igor Maltsev, a former air defense chief of staff. They were all there receiving honorary medals from the Iraqi defense minister. They clearly were not there to give Saddam military advice for the upcomingwar—Saddam'sKatyusha launchers were of World War II vintage, and his T-72 tanks, BMP-1 fighting vehicles and MiG fighter planes were all obviously useless against America. "I did not fly to Baghdad to drink coffee," was what Gen. Achalov told the media afterward. They were there orchestrating Iraq's "Sarindar" plan.
The U.S. military in fact, has already found the only thing that would have been allowed to survive under the classic Soviet "Sarindar" plan to liquidate weapons arsenals in the event of defeat in war — the technological documents showing how to reproduce weapons stocks in just a few weeks.
Such a plan has undoubtedly been in place since August 1995 — when Saddam's son-in-law, Gen. Hussein Kamel, who ran Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological programs for 10 years, defected to Jordan. That August, UNSCOM and International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors searched a chicken farm owned by Kamel's family and found more than one hundred metal trunks and boxes containing documentation dealing with all categories of weapons, including nuclear. Caught red-handed, Iraq at last admitted to its "extensive biological warfare program, including weaponization," issued a "Full, Final and Complete Disclosure Report" and turned over documents about the nerve agent VX and nuclear weapons.
Saddam then lured Gen. Kamel back, pretending to pardon his defection. Three days later, Kamel and over 40 relatives, including women and children, were murdered, in what the official Iraqi press described as a "spontaneous administration of tribal justice." After sending that message to his cowed, miserable people, Saddam then made a show of cooperation with U.N. inspection, since Kamel had just compromised all his programs anyway. In November 1995, he issued a second "Full, Final and Complete Disclosure" as to his supposedly non-existent missile programs. That very same month, Jordan intercepted a large shipment of high-grade missile components destined for Iraq. UNSCOM soon fished similar missile components out of the Tigris River, again refuting Saddam's spluttering denials. In June 1996, Saddam slammed the door shut to UNSCOM's inspection of any "concealment mechanisms." On Aug. 5, 1998, halted cooperation with UNSCOM and the IAEA completely, and they withdrew on Dec. 16, 1998. Saddam had another four years to develop and hide his weapons of mass destruction without any annoying, prying eyes. U.N. Security Council resolutions 1115, (June 21, 1997), 1137 (Nov. 12, 1997), and 1194 (Sept. 9, 1998) were issued condemning Iraq—ineffectual words that had no effect. In 2002, under the pressure of a huge U.S. military buildup by a new U.S. administration, Saddam made yet another "Full, Final and Complete Disclosure," which was found to contain "false statements" and to constitute another "material breach" of U.N. and IAEA inspection and of paragraphs eight to 13 of resolution 687 (1991).
It was just a few days after this last "Disclosure," after a decade of intervening with the U.N. and the rest of the world on Iraq's behalf, that Gen. Primakov and his team of military experts landed in Baghdad — even though, with 200,000 U.S. troops at the border, war was imminent, and Moscow could no longer save Saddam Hussein. Gen. Primakov was undoubtedly cleaning up the loose ends of the "Sarindar" plan and assuring Saddam that Moscow would rebuild his weapons of mass destruction after the storm subsided for a good price.
Mr. Putin likes to take shots at America and wants to reassert Russia in world affairs. Why would he not take advantage of this opportunity? As minister of foreign affairs and prime minister, Gen. Primakov has authored the "multipolarity" strategy of counterbalancing American leadership by elevating Russia to great-powerstatusinEurasia. Between Feb. 9-12, Mr. Putin visited Germany and France to propose a three-power tactical alignment against the United States to advocate further inspections rather than war. On Feb. 21, the Russian Duma appealed to the German and French parliaments to join them on March 4-7 in Baghdad, for "preventing U.S. military aggression against Iraq." Crowds of European leftists, steeped for generations in left-wing propaganda straight out of Moscow, continue to find the line appealing.
Mr. Putin's tactics have worked. The United States won a brilliant military victory, demolishing a dictatorship without destroying the country, but it has begun losing the peace. While American troops unveiled the mass graves of Saddam's victims, anti-American forces in Western Europe and elsewhere, spewed out vitriolic attacks, accusing Washington of greed for oil and not of really caring about weapons of mass destruction, or exaggerating their risks, as if weapons of mass destruction were really nothing very much to worry about after all.
It is worth remembering that Andrei Sakharov, the father of the Soviet hydrogen bomb, chose to live in a Soviet gulag instead of continuing to develop the power of death. "I wanted to alert the world," Sakharov explained in 1968, "to the grave perils threatening the human race thermonuclear extinction, ecological catastrophe, famine." Even Igor Kurchatov, the KGB academician who headed the Soviet nuclear program from 1943 until his death in 1960, expressed deep qualms of conscience about helping to create weapons of mass destruction. "The rate of growth of atomic explosives is such," he warned in an article written together with several other Soviet nuclear scientists not long before he died, "that in just a few years the stockpile will be large enough to create conditions under which the existence of life on earth will be impossible."
The Cold War was fought over the reluctance to use weapons of mass destruction, yet now this logic is something only senior citizens seem to recall. Today, even lunatic regimes like that in North Korea not only possess weapons of mass destruction, but openly offer to sell them to anyone with cash, including terrorists and their state sponsors. Is anyone paying any attention? Being inured to proliferation, however, does not reduce its danger. On the contrary, it increases it.

Ion Mihai Pacepa, a Romanian, is the highest-ranking intelligence officer ever to have defected from the former Soviet bloc.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20030820-081256-6822r.htm