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  • Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #3 - Manchester, NH 06/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

    06/06/2007 1:17:35 PM PDT · 1,812 of 1,820
    The Oak to The Pack Knight

    Quit calling me a spammer. Every time the polls don’t go the way people expect. They call it spam.

    What?!!?!?! You don’t think MSNBS, ABC, FOXNEWS knows how to install a spam block?

  • Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #3 - Manchester, NH 06/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

    06/06/2007 9:35:40 AM PDT · 1,808 of 1,820
    The Oak to Boston Blackie

    Deja Vu!

    I remember having such hope in 2000. I was going to be able to vote for a conservative named George.

    I was dissapointed the first day of session when BUSH submitted “no child left behind” in the House for vote.

    I’m not making the same mistake twice by having the media ram another so called flip flopping, big spending, slick haired front runner down my throat.

    I was called by a GOP pollster yesterday and they only gave me 3 choices. You can guess who there were. This is un-American

  • Catholic Bishop compares Giuliani to Pontius Pilate

    06/06/2007 9:22:33 AM PDT · 52 of 53
    The Oak to Gay State Conservative

    “Who is Ted Kenedy?”

    Let’s see....he let a girl drown in his car while he’s drunk.....and he’s not pro-life.

    That would make him pro-death is both situations, right?

    If I had was threatened and had to make a choice between Ted and Rudy, I’d take Rudy cuz you can’t kill someone with a flip-flop.

  • Catholic Bishop compares Giuliani to Pontius Pilate

    06/06/2007 9:22:27 AM PDT · 51 of 53
    The Oak to Howard Jarvis Admirer

    Pure democracy is mob rule and exactly the reason the Founders gave us the Republic.

    However, I don’t understand how any Christian can be pro-life and pro-war. It isn’t consistent. The sad thing is, if you look back in history, there are more wars fought “in the name of God” than for any other reason.

    This is why we really need to at least listen to Ron Paul as he is the only candidate that is pro-life and anti-war. We, as Christian Americans, need to take the higher moral ground here. We should love the unborn and the born even if they don’t believe or live the same way we do. Instead of killing them(in the name of spreading the democracy that we don’t have), why don’t we be an example of Christ and love them anyway?

    BTW - Ron Paul attends a Baptist Church regularly.

  • The Answer to 10 Questions for Ron Paul

    06/04/2007 5:52:01 PM PDT · 18 of 19
    The Oak to MichiganConservative

    Absolutely, MichiganConservative,

    If we’d had guns in all the cockpits there would have been no 9-11.

    Talk softly and carry a big stick still works, right?

  • It's OK If Ron Paul Is Right

    06/04/2007 8:00:51 AM PDT · 172 of 175
    The Oak to gcruse

    I love it when people call Ron Paul a “libertarian”. It means he believes in liberty.

    “with LIBERTY and justice for all”

    If you’ve ever said the pledge of allegiance, then you my friend, are a libertarian too!

  • The Elephants Got A Twisted Gut- Call the...NRA?

    06/04/2007 7:57:44 AM PDT · 18 of 20
    The Oak to Copernicus

    Hurray for Goldwater Conservatives!

    Guess who Barry Goldwater Jr. is endorsing for President?

    You guessed it! Congressman Ron Paul

  • Giuliani"s Unwelcome Birthday Guests

    06/04/2007 7:55:21 AM PDT · 200 of 202
    The Oak to SUSSA

    If Rudy really takes money, even one cent, for speeches given about 9-11, he is of low character and does not deserve to hold the office of dog-catcher, much less president.

  • The Answer to 10 Questions for Ron Paul

    06/04/2007 7:55:20 AM PDT · 15 of 19
    The Oak to fporretto
    “Interventionism” doesn’t always mean military involvement.

    For example, during the late 1950s in protection of American oil interests, we sent CIA operatives into Iran in support and protection of the Shah. The Muslims, who hated the Shah for giving loyalty to western money and power, deposed him in favor of the religious leader Ayatollah Khomeini. The new government was strongly anti-American, and in the late 1970s they took hostages because we hospitalized and hosted the Shah to protect him from trial in Iran.

    There are several more examples like the one above where we, the US, tried to protect our interests by “intervening” in other national affairs and it ended up back in our faces.

    Like Ronald Reagan said after he pulled our troops out of Lebanon in the 80s, we don’t understand the mindset of the region. They are a tribal and territorial people. The tribes have been warring for thousands of years over familial territory. Like brothers who were previously feuding, they have banded together as a Muslim family to fight against intruders.

    Because they are willing to travel to other countries and blow themselves up, we have two choices - either wipe them off the face of the earth, which is inhumane and unnecessary, or respect the wishes of the people in their own region and stop imposing our will on them.

  • The Answer to 10 Questions for Ron Paul

    06/03/2007 6:32:12 PM PDT · 1 of 19
    The Oak
    The Answer to 10 Questions for Ron Paul

    Jill Valentine challenged supporters of Ron Paul to answer a few questions about where Ron Paul stands on the issues.

    I worked for Ron Paul as "Political Director/Scheduler" for about ten years. I also answered his mail and like many of his supporters are in awe of his wisdom and consistency when dealing with policy on any issue.

    I'm going to answer these in my own tone but with his answers as I've given them many times before.

    1. Afghanistan Question: We all know your position on Iraq. But what is your position on the war in Afghanistan? Do you demand an immediate withdrawal of all troops there? Do you believe that Taliban guerrillas should be allowed to operate unopposed? Do you believe that it is morally wrong for us to bomb al-Qaeda, since, as you said, "our policies brought about 9-11?" Answer: He voted "yes" to go into Afghanistan and find al-Qaeda operatives and bring them to justice. He also favors going into Pakistan as intel targets that country as the host to bin Laden and many of his training camps. Pakistan has also developed nuclear weaponry. Why don't we see them as a threat and why have we disbanded the CIA bin Laden project?

    2. Navy/Aircraft Carriers Question: You have expressed support for withdrawing U.S. Navy ships from the coast of Iran, and for withdrawing U.S. troops from foreign soil. Where do you want these ships to go? Do you want them all to be permanently kept within U.S. territorial waters, even the submarines? What about our aircraft carriers? Will you scuttle them or sell them to the Red Chinese?

    Answer: Ron Paul was in the USAF. He is one of the few veterans in Congress. Why should we have any of our military crafts near Iran when we know that al-Qaeda operatives are right here in the good ole USA? Yet, we have deployed our reserves to BFE and have closed many of our defensive air and naval bases in the homeland. You call that security? We have 460,000 troops in 144 countries all over the world but have left ourselves open to attack right here. Why do you think there were no F-16 fighters intercepting those terrorist flights on 9-11. We need those troops ready to defend us, here and now!

    3. Blaming America Question: You have accused the U.S. of bringing the al-Qaeda 9-11 attacks upon ourselves because we "bombed Iraq for 10 years." Yet, in your opposition to the Iraq war, you claimed that there was no connection between al-Qaeda and Iraq. How can you claim that al-Qaeda attacked us because of Iraq?

    Answer: We did bomb Iraq during the 10 years we had sanctions. The Muslim community attacked in defens of a Muslim neighbors like we did when Germany tried to take over our European allies during WW2.

    However, Ron Paul did not blame America, the citizens. He blamed idiot American politicians for a failed foreign policy that caters to the corporations who make billions on war. Do you know who initially lobbied to go into Iraq? Let me clue you in. The corporations that the DOD call the PVL, or preferred vendor list were the initiators. The major money makers in this war are Big Oil, Bell Helicopter, Stewart/Stevenson, Boeing, Halliburton, Kellog, Brown and Root. I was there when the war lobby buzzards were circling and it makes me sick!

    4. Frivolous Anti-Gun Lawsuits Question: You claim to be pro-gun, yet you voted against protecting the gun industry from frivolous, politically motivated lawsuits. These lawsuits blame innocent gun manufacturers for the actions of criminals. You say you don't want the gun industry to have special protection. What's wrong with giving an industry the protection it legally, morally, and logically deserves? And it shouldn't be unique to the gun industry, either - if some weasel lawyer sued a car manufacturer because a nut ran over a bunch of people with a car, I'd give the automobile industry protection too. Answer: This is a good one Jill. Whenever a bill sounds so wonderful, be sure and read the fine print. Ron Paul and his staff actually read the legislation, unlike many of the other members. What the NRA didn't tell you about that bill is that it required every gun manufacturer to include gun locks or the lawsuit ban was null and void. If you ever owned a gun, you know that locks render them useless for defensive purposes. It also puts another tax on the buyer, passed down from the manufacturer.

    Also, Congress has no constitutional authority to regulate, tax or subsidize any industry. When they do, the industry suffers i.e. medical, agriculture etc. etc. etc.

    5. Parental Notification Question: Ron You claim to be pro-life, but you voted against a bill that would require parents to be notified if a minor crossed state lines to get an abortion. Please explain this. Answer: Paul is pro-life. He favors the constitutional remedy to the abortion problem by over turning Roe vs. Wade and giving regulation back to the states. Congress has the power to over turn Supreme Court ruling. Why wasn’t that done with our Republican majority in power? Ron Paul was the only one that submitted legislation to do that.

    However, according to the Constitution Article 1 Sec. 4, Congress does not have jurisdiction to legislate enforcement of any state mandate. The reason federal power and funding is so out of hand is that for every problem, we think the feds have to vote another law and an agency to enforce it. If we overturned Roe v. Wade, it would out of the feds hands.

    6. Supporting the Troops Question: How can you claim to support the troops when you're constantly voting against military appropriations bills? And don't give me that tired old "it's all pork" line. Body armor for our troops is not pork.

    Answer: Did you know that you can go to Wal-Mart and buy a small refrigerator for $99? Yet, our military pays about $22,000 for the same frig? That hammer that the DOD used to pay $20 for is almost $400 in today’s war effort. We pay KBR which is a “preferred vendor” of the DOD about $250,000 for exterminators in Iraq, yet our young enlisted men make an average of $25,000 per year. You say it isn’t pork. I’ll tell you what it is. It is criminal for us to legislate billions to the global war corporations and call it defense spending, while our young men are sent over seas. Then, when they come home, we put them in nasty medical facilities.

    7. National Guard on the Border Question: You claim that you will protect our borders. How can you say this when your defunding of the military will result in a lack of funding for the National Guard troops guarding the borders? Answer: We don’t have National Guard on the border. We’ve sent them all over to guard the Iraqi/Syrian border. Silly girl.

    8. Blood on Whose Hands Question: Who do you think has more blood on their hands regarding the victims of 9-11 - al-Qaeda or the United States of America? Straight answer from the horse's mouth, please. Answer: The answer would require extensive research because al-Qaeda has existed for approximately 50 years. They began rebellion against the western world when the US government built 14 permanent military bases on the Saudi Peninsula, property that the Muslim world calls – MECCA! We did this with permission from the Saudi government to protect our oil interests. The Islamic people from around the world didn’t like it at all. Some say that we have initiated all the terror attacks by Islamic extremists for creating what our CIA reports call “blowback”. This is in retaliation for our occupation of their holy land. Read the CIA 9-11 reports.

    9. Liberal Moon bats Question: If you claim to be not only *a* conservative, but the "one true conservative," why did you go on liberal Bill Maher's show and bask in the praise of his moonbat audience? And why are you so popular on extreme left-wing websites like Democratic Underground? If you do not want the support of these people, why have you not condemned them? Answer: The policy of peace and prosperity invites support of all races, parties, gender and talk show hosts. If you are an American and you have a media outlet, it would be smart for a politician who needs your support, to recognize your show. Especially if you don’t get the big money from corporate warmongers PACs like the frontrunners from both parties all do.

    10. Foreign Policy Difference

    Question: Please explain, in 100 words or less, how your foreign policy differs from that of Dennis Kucinich.

    Answer: Dennis Kucinich believes that the US should belong to global peace initiative through the United Nations. Ron Paul believes that the United Nations is just one more layer of government of whom the United States should not give money, enforcement or allegiance. We sited enforcement of 17 UN regulations in the legislation that gave Bush to go to war in Iraq.

    Kucinich believes that social initiative should be the responsibility of the federal government. Ron Paul believes in a free market without regulation, tax or subsidy for any industry that is not constitutionally mandated.

    I hope that this will enlighten you as to where Ron Paul stands on these issues. I know that most people don’t have first hand knowledge of where he stands on the issues. I am one of the lucky ones and I want everyone in this country to know that if we as a people don’t elect Ron Paul as our president, America will no longer be the home of the free and the brave. America will be the home of debt and the slave.