...And you asked about amnesty -- look, amnesty is not going to fly. There is not going to be automatic citizenship, it just won't work. People in the United States don't support that, and neither do I, nor will kicking people out of the United States work. It's not practical. It is not a realistic solution. Some may articulate that, but it's empty talk. And so, therefore, there's got to be a middle ground, a reasonable way to deal with the 12 million people or so that have been in our country for a period of time. And that's where...