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NO BIG BANG WITHOUT GOD, SAYS POPE FRANCIS
Brietbart ^ | by THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D. 27 Oct 2014, 8:30 AM PDT | by THOMAS D. WILLIAMS, PH.D. 27 Oct 2014, 8:30 AM PDT

Posted on 10/27/2014 1:47:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon

The Big Bang “doesn’t contradict the intervention of a divine Creator, but demands it,” Pope Francis said Monday morning, because the beginning of the world “is not the work of chaos.” The Pope was addressing the plenary assembly of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, gathered in the Vatican to discuss “Evolving Concepts of Nature.” God is not some sort of wizard, said Francis, but rather “the Creator who brought all things into being.” The origin of the world derives directly “from a supreme Principle of creative love,” he added. “Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve.”

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: apostasy; compromise; creation; evolution; heresy; pope; popefrancis
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To: TexasFreeper2009

>>that was my way of agreeing with the pope and stating the reason for my agreement.<<

Got it. Just helping you in advance when others disagree with you (and they have already out of the gate).

Trust me on this one...


41 posted on 10/27/2014 2:21:49 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: Vaquero

Stephen said definitively in his miniseries “there was no time before the big bang therefore the was no devine creator”

Talk about jumping the quantum shark!

I swear the graduates where blowing pot smoke in his face before he vocoded that retarded line in the sand.

He even got his black hole shit wrong too.
http://www.universetoday.com/108870/why-hawking-is-wrong-about-black-holes/


42 posted on 10/27/2014 2:23:11 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: ealgeone

>>By adaptation I mean a species adapting to it’s environment. By evolution I mean a species changing from one form to another.<<

Not commenting on your conclusion. But I am noting you are using unscientific terms to describe scientific phenomena. It is like saying “by star I mean big ball of light.”

When in a domain, you should use the proper vernacular.


43 posted on 10/27/2014 2:24:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: mlo
>"Evolution is not supported by Scripture."<

Then scripture is wrong.

Then you must believe the following:

Something (the universe) comes from nothing.

Life comes from lifelessness.

Man has somehow, someway evolved from a low form of life to the complex form we are today though there are no examples of that transformation occuring in nature today.

Only the Bible has the correct answer...."In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth....."

44 posted on 10/27/2014 2:26:10 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Justice

Moses wrote down what had previously been passed down orally.


45 posted on 10/27/2014 2:26:54 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: ealgeone
Umm...you can have evolution without inferring cross-species evolution. Man has clearly evolved from what man was thousands of years ago.

But a man did not evolve from an ape and yet both were CREATED.

46 posted on 10/27/2014 2:28:46 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Yeah...and Moses reported all events as true.
47 posted on 10/27/2014 2:30:16 PM PDT by Justice
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To: Eddie01

I know of his black hole, complete destruction of matter, problem...a plumber from the Bronx(my home town) whupped his butt.

I liked a lot of what Hawking has done....he has made his physics (’brief history...’) readable by guys like me...but the elitist pseudo intellectual in him has skewed him way too leftist for my liking of late...


48 posted on 10/27/2014 2:30:33 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RaceBannon

>> “this clearly shows the RCC does not believe the Bible” <<

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The RCC has existed to destroy the word of God, and the true worship of Yeshua since it was founded in 364 AD.
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49 posted on 10/27/2014 2:30:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“In the beginning there was nothing, then it exploded into matter and anti-matter.”

... And, unfortunately, we cannot find most of that antimatter anymore. But it was there. Had to be. It's either the Universe is right, or our calculations!

50 posted on 10/27/2014 2:31:02 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Oh, and by the way it was not all oral.

Moses had access to Egyptian libraries while growing up. Presumably these had copies of Mesopotamian histories as well.

51 posted on 10/27/2014 2:31:34 PM PDT by Justice
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To: Justice

Considering the written word of man, inspired by God. The Cannon that is the Bible wasn’t really settled until about 400 years after Christ’s Death.

The notion that it, and only it, are what God has given mankind is wholly ignorant.

The entire “Sola Scripture” nonsense was invented by a bunch of foolishness in the 16th century, and perpetuates sadly to this day.

“Sola Scripture” is a perfect example of “reintrepretation” for whatever you wish to prove, and hence the plethora of denominations the protestant ideology has spawned, yet they all claim Sola Scripture... if that is true you can’t wind up with dozens if not hundreds of offshoots that have popped up and died off over the centuries.

Its a fools errand, but that is one thing the world is never short of.


52 posted on 10/27/2014 2:32:23 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: freedumb2003
>>By adaptation I mean a species adapting to it’s environment. By evolution I mean a species changing from one form to another.<<

Not commenting on your conclusion. But I am noting you are using unscientific terms to describe scientific phenomena. It is like saying “by star I mean big ball of light.”

When in a domain, you should use the proper vernacular.

In 1859, Charles Darwin's The Origin of Species was published. The views about common descent expressed therein were that it was possible that there was only one progenitor for all life forms.

"Therefore I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed

As I said...evolution...changing from one species to another.

53 posted on 10/27/2014 2:32:32 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: cripplecreek

The “Big bang theory” is nonsense.

All of the visible evidence points to the steady, uniform expansion called for in the Bible.
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54 posted on 10/27/2014 2:33:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ealgeone
People just dont understand how difficult it would be to try to convey advanced scientific concepts to a primitive man.

Here watch this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd0I1xAICOc

now... try to imagine that white guy is God... and those primitives are the ancestors of Moses...

Now imagine him trying to answer their questions about how life began, the origin of the universe, heaven, earth, germs, heck even the wind! Everything would have to be put in term THEY would understand!

People just forget just how primitive the people that originally received this information from God were!

55 posted on 10/27/2014 2:35:10 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Solson
Umm...you can have evolution without inferring cross-species evolution. Man has clearly evolved from what man was thousands of years ago. But a man did not evolve from an ape and yet both were CREATED.

Not as evolution is understood today. And by that it is commonly understood that we came from a common anscestor from the primordial soup(as believed by some).

I agree man and apes were created.

We may be taller, faster(?), a bit smarter than humans living three thousand years ago, but beyond that we're still the same. We love, we kill, we give, we steal, etc.

56 posted on 10/27/2014 2:36:15 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Solson

Apes and man evolved from a common ancestor...

the Lord works in the Lord’s way...I don’t question why, I do what God wants, I learn of His Universe by utilizing the brain he gave me.


57 posted on 10/27/2014 2:36:24 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Justice

um... man was here LONG before writing was invented. Information from the garden of Eden HAD to of been passed down orally


58 posted on 10/27/2014 2:36:41 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; Justice

Moses wrote down what Yehova dictated to him.

Yehova does not allow his truth to be entrusted to the repeating of the spoken word.
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59 posted on 10/27/2014 2:37:38 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
People just forget just how primitive the people that originally received this information from God were!

Having a written form of communication, building a boat 450ft long, building a ziggaraut, indicates there were some "smarts" back in the day.

Heck, today we have some people who can't fathom something as simple as no work no eat!

60 posted on 10/27/2014 2:38:20 PM PDT by ealgeone
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