LIMBAUGH RESIGNS FROM ESPN SHOW

[BUSHdude2000]

ESPN REPORTING!

[wardaddy]

glad to see FR is back up btw.

lucianne is a poor substitute.

[Exigence]

We have just witnessed a Borking.

Again... but there's hope. It looks like Rush is calling ESPN on their hypocrisy today.

[SengirV]

And I hear it brought up at least once every single day on any number of ESPN radio broadcasts by other commentators. It's a big issue in sports right now. If -- and I suspect there's no chance you have -- but if you want to defend your statement as having any meaning, you'd better be able to demonstrate that his discussion of the topic is an anomaly and no other commentators are discussing it. Otherwise your point is meaningless, illogical, and comes close to the "racist baiting" that those on the left always want to hang on anyone causcasian that dares to notice that race is ever a legitimate topic of discussion.

So, if Rush said word for word exactly what Jimmy the Greek said, then you would still be happy with him? Since race is brought up ALL the time on ESPN, then that would be OK? Right?

You would have to be slightly to the right of David Duke to say that Jimmy The GReeks comments were just fine. So I'm going to ass-u-me that you would not agree. In this case, Rush said that the Eagles defense carried the team(his opinion, nothing wrong so far), he said that he didn't think McNabb was that good to begin with(his opinion, arguable, but still fine). But then we get to his inference that McNabb is given credit simply because he is black(DING DING DING DING, we have a winner). Say what you want, but Rush didn't have to go that extra step and bring in the race baiting.

[auggy]

"Let's face it. He had half his brain tied behind his back, and that only works when he's sitting behind the golden EIB microphone."

LOL! Yea, he should have untied it for ESPN. He stated on his show yesterday, that he had thought about this comment the night before, which would have been Saturday night, and he decided to go ahead with it. So, it wasn't something that was just spit out at the spur of the moment. He put quite abit of thought into it. He just mis-calculated the Elite Politically Correct.

[SengirV]

So, in essence, it's the fawning media that is racist... which of course they'll never admit. It's the old liberal "white guilt" thing.

So now, everything Rush says is fact. What if he told you jump off a cliff? Would you do it?

I think it is a stupid statement said out of ignorance. McNabb and Vick get tons of air play because they are surround with crap offensive talent, and they make amazing individual plays in the ultimate brutal team sport that get tons of play on Sportscenter. If rush thinks it has something to do with Race, I think that says more about Rush. How come the media didn't bend over backwards for Randall Cunningham? He was a QB who always got ripped BECAUSE HE WAS A BLACK QB!!!!

[Exigence]

So now, everything Rush says is fact. What if he told you jump off a cliff? Would you do it?

Sweetie, get a good dictionary and look up the difference between fact and opinion. There is no such thing as "fact" on either side on this subject. All there is informed, supported opinion.

BTW, opinions are usually allowed. That's what "commentators" do. That's what commentary is. That's the point of all of those talking heads on ESPN in the first place.

Just wondering... have you got any supported opinions? Or just old cliches... the "jump off the cliff" line is a bit thin and moldy. *g*

[Exigence]

So, if Rush said word for word exactly what Jimmy the Greek said, then you would still be happy with him? Since race is brought up ALL the time on ESPN, then that would be OK? Right?

You're outing yourself. No thinking person would ever compare the opinion Rush gave with David Duke and Jimmy the Greek the racist comments you have alluded to. Your slimy agenda is showing, big time.

Note: Every time someone mentions "race" doesn't mean that the comment or the speaker is racist. Surely you are smart enough to know the connections Rush has to the black conservative community and to be aware of the contributions Rush has made to provide them platforms, air time, and access to his millions of listeners... or, then again, maybe you aren't.

[bigeasy_70118]

Every time someone mentions "race" doesn't mean that the comment or the speaker is racist.

Only when the speaker is a white republican or Clarence Thomas.

[SengirV]

No, I am not aware of anything Rush does on his show. He was a failed top 40 DJ who simply invented the word Feminazi and became famous. What comes out of his mouth are his opinions, not facts. If you want them to be facts, then that says more to your agenda than me NOT liking him implying that McNabb only gets credit because he is black. I can show you many reason why that is not true, but why let facts get in the way of anything, right?

[jrawk]

"Rush said McNabb was overrated because of his race." -- colorado tanker

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"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team." -- Rush Limbaugh

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You are wrong, Rush never said that at all.

Read the quote.

He said McNabb was getting the credit for the teams success not just because he was black, but a black quarterback.

What about all the black players on the Eagles defense?


-- lates
-- jrawk

[cyborg]

Rush has never uttered anything that could be prejudiced against anyone. I'd not compare him at all to David Duke, Jimmy the Greek, or anyone else. He's never even made an ethnic joke. I'm glad you shut this poster down.

[Exigence]

No, I am not aware of anything Rush does on his show.

Well, then you are certainly as qualified as the uniformed liberal press to criticize him.

Just a thought, some people do their homework and examine the whole of a person's contributions before stamping their feet and labeling someone a "racist." Then there are the others who prefer to level charges and find out the truth later... or never.

[jrawk]

You still on this thread? ;)

You would think all the misconceptions you spread yesterday were enough...

Why don't you just admit that despite all the evidence to the contrary you really want to believe and convince others that Rush is a racist.

Well you are wrong, he is not. But your insistence makes me wonder about your motives.

-- lates
-- jrawk

P.S. just to lay it out for everyone else who doesn't want to sift through 500 pages:

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Here you are stringing together false paraphrased statements which are in fact out of context and you continue to use in your argument:

"You, of course, will cliam he did not say that. I can use my brain and get 2 from 1 plus 1. He said 'The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well' and then follows that up with(damn I can't find it right now, but I'll paraphrase) - And I never thought he was that good to begin with." -- SengirV


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Here you are accusing me of taking an ACTUAL block quote out of context in order to support my argument:


"you quote about 1/100 of what he said in the entire segment. And of course only that which supports your arguement. I heard rush say that he didn't think McNabb was that good to begin with. So Rush is in fact saying that, in his mind, McNabb is popular because he is black. I can infer that from EVERYTHING he said, not just the 1/100 that you quote." -- SengirV

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Here you are admitting you can find no evidence to support your paraphrasing, yet you continue to assure us they are true:

"I'm looking, but I can only find that one quote. I've googled, I've used every search engine I can think of. As far as the internet(and you), the only thing Rush said was "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said. "There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team." But he said A LOT more than that, but the STUPID media only feels like quoting that one piece. I guess they just have visions of black QBs dancing in their heads." --- SengirV

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Here you are giving up your search and proving that you are really just trying to get a rise out of people with your insistence that Rush is a racist.


"It's getting late. I'll look again tomorrow/look at rush's web site. But I will try to state my arguement as simply as possible. And I'll paraphrases, just to piss you off =)" -- SengirV

[RJL]

freep the hell out of ESPN

I disagree, ESPN gave Rush a chance, and Rush blew it. No blame here for ESPN.

[colorado tanker]

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well,'' Limbaugh said.

Having a little trouble with the specs today?

I listen to Rush regularly and agree with him most of the time. But he said McNabb was overrated because of his color and there's no way to sweep that under the carpet by saying "yeah but" most players on the defense are black. He was wrong and should have realized that when he started getting calls from his own fans disagreeing with him, if not before.

[Terry Mross]

I wish he would have done one more show and said, "This is my last show because I simply can't stand watching all the, what was that term Senator Byrd used? Oh, yeah, I can't stand to see all of the "white niggers" down on the field getting the crap beat out of them by the "Afro-Americans".

[jrawk]

"Rush is a white supremicist racist!" Colorado tanker

How does it feel to have words but in your mouth...

He never said he was overated at all!

I don't care how often you listen to Rush, You should not make your argument by putting words into other peoples mouth.

He certainly did not say he was overated because he was black. That may be your interpretation of what he said. But you are throwing it out there like it is what was actually said.

You are wrong to do that, and your argument that it is a racist statement is quite weak if you don't make that supposition, which I would guess is why you are doing it.


-- lates
-- jrawk

[colorado tanker]

Your wordplay is positively Clintonian. Clinton is also good at attacking the other guy when he has a weak position. You can deny Rush said what he said if you want, nothing I can say will stop you. I don't like it any more than you do when one of our leaders screw up, but I'm realistic about it when it happens.

The loud argument from our camp that Rush's observation about race having to do with the media overrating McNabb isn't a racial remark is just playing into the hands of the Dims. They must be loving this.

[SengirV]

You would think all the misconceptions you spread yesterday were enough...

Why don't you just admit that despite all the evidence to the contrary you really want to believe and convince others that Rush is a racist.

Well you are wrong, he is not. But your insistence makes me wonder about your motives.

I believe that non racist people can say racist things. I do not believe that Rush is a racist. I NEVER claimed he was. You are trying to put words in my mouth.

I have searched again and can not find ALL of what rush said in that segment. You said I can find it on Rush's site. You are correct I can get the clip if I sign up for his 24/7 service for $84 a year. Yea right, I'm going to spent $84 to see/hear pearls of wisdom? I think not.

Paraphrasing - Rush said that the media pulls for Black QBs and that McNabb was never that good to begin with. Anyone with a brain can then infer that McNabb is only given credit because he is black. Not very much of a stretch or a misconception.

You are NEVER going to convince me that Rush's statements were astute observations. I can show you plenty of evidence to show why his statements were stupid(since he is supposed to be such a knowledgeable commentator - hahaHaHaHAHAHAHA BWAHAHAHAAA - excuse me), but you refuse to listen.

[shaggy eel]

,,, ESPN should stick to sport - it's it and that's that.