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Alabama SC justices cave, order Ten Commandments removed
AP on Fox News ^ | 8-21-03 | AP on Fox News website

Posted on 08/21/2003 8:33:17 AM PDT by rwfromkansas

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MONTGOMERY, Ala.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 10commandments; 1stamendment; 666; allyourcommandments; antichrist; antichristian; arebelongtous; bigotry; firstamendment; freedomofreligion; monument; moore; religiousfreedom; roymoore; tencommandements; tencommandments; treason
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
m1-lightning - "They don't care about civil liberties of ALL Americans, just some of them."

Cinsistent Libertarian - What subset do you have in mind?

The ACLU didn't get involved in these cases....

Patriotic T-shirt ban, No ACLU

I believe the citizens had to protest to overturn the decision School ruling overturned, no ACLU Here

Here's another one, No ACLU

...And another one

Jesus t-shirt, no ACLU here

But the ACLU certainly jumped in on these cases....

war protestor's t-shirt

Bush is a Terrorist t-shirt

Wiccan t-shirts

Liberal Bias and the ACLU

Now, I can go on forever with instances of liberal bias by the ACLU but there are about 23,000 Google pages fitting that description and it would take too long to get my point across. I only included instances of t-shirts in school. FRee Republic is dedicated to grassroots conservatism. Do you really think it's appropriate on FR showing support of a liberal biased and inconsistent ACLU?

441 posted on 08/21/2003 11:57:45 AM PDT by m1-lightning (What's the difference between Nazis and Democrats?)
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To: Protagoras
They can't "figure out" the Bible anyway...without the Holy Spirit giving them insight.

Don't worry, whether they read it or not, God will find a way to save his elect.
442 posted on 08/21/2003 11:57:50 AM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Roughneck
"No one should forget that the USA was FOUNDED by CHRISTIANS. - I agree with you here... Immigration has ruined this great country." - Here is were we need to part.

Most of us wouldn't be here if it wasn't for immigration. Illegal immigration is different. All of us has immigrant blood in us, except true native americans!

443 posted on 08/21/2003 11:57:56 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
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To: Drawsing
Read his own words. They are not protected by the 1st Amendment. They are only protected by the Judeo-Christian God.

Look, I'm not here to make up positions to ascribe to Roy Moore. I'm relying on the man's own words. I'm probably the only poster here who actually sat down and read his testimony. When I say he disagrees with that proposition, it is because he has said so.

444 posted on 08/21/2003 11:58:47 AM PDT by lugsoul
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To: Zavien Doombringer
May I ask, what gave you the clue that there wasn't a God?

I still don't understand why, if man "evolved" from monkeys or apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? They should be man by now, right?
Where's the stupid fossiles of the fish with hooves?

445 posted on 08/21/2003 11:59:15 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("He who controls communications rules the world." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: MineralMan
Just curious why would you think human sacrafices would be wrong, after all Satanists who beleive in Human Sacrafices are hidden all over this world practicing this barbaric faith. Sacrafice of any living thing goes agaisnt G-D
446 posted on 08/21/2003 11:59:28 AM PDT by missyme
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To: Roughneck
Yep, then Christ came and fullfilled the law. The New Testament Christian does not need to sacrifice animals because Christ was the sacrifice.

Yep, and the Old Covenant(Covenant of Law) passed away, and we entered the Covenant of Grace. The laws handed down to and for the Isrealites, and there adherence to them, were no longer "the way to heaven". Thus, the Ten Commandments, which were the LAW OF THE ISRAELITES, were no longer law. And nowhere did Christ ever indicate that the Ten Commandmenst were meant to be the laws of earthy governments.

447 posted on 08/21/2003 12:00:13 PM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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To: Impeach the Boy
My you get testy when shown to be completely and absolutely WRONG.
448 posted on 08/21/2003 12:00:14 PM PDT by kegler4
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To: rwfromkansas
Yes that is irony.

We are accumulating irony at such a rate that we will be like the friggin French in another generation or two.
449 posted on 08/21/2003 12:00:25 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: rwfromkansas
You should know, posting all that stuff about Blaine.
450 posted on 08/21/2003 12:00:40 PM PDT by lugsoul
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To: concerned about politics
You forgot < /sarcasm> :)

*boot to the head*

451 posted on 08/21/2003 12:00:56 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
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To: rwfromkansas
They can't "figure out" the Bible anyway...without the Holy Spirit giving them insight.

Let me know when you figure it out. I never met anyone yet, in or out of the clergy who claims to have.

Don't worry, whether they read it or not, God will find a way to save his elect.

So we should discourage them from reading it? Gideon people disagree.

452 posted on 08/21/2003 12:01:43 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: HurkinMcGurkin
"Was the nation governed, led or inspired by Christians, Christian ethics or the Ten Commandments before the Emancipation Proclamation?"

There would have been no Emancipation Proclamation had it not been for the Ten Commandments.

Neither would Abraham Lincoln have stood idly by and watched the Judicial Branch of goverment throw away the founding precepts of America.

453 posted on 08/21/2003 12:02:12 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Ellis Island was for immigrants that came to appreciate America and there ability to embrace all facets of Judiasm and Christianity
454 posted on 08/21/2003 12:02:39 PM PDT by missyme
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To: inquest
Now, would you consider it a similar violation if he put up a copy of MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech...

Funny you should mention that - he refused that one too.

Does he have to accept every request for a display that someone wants to put up, no matter how irrelevant it is to the historical foundation of the country's laws?

Alas, we've wandered into hypothetical-land now. When his avowed intention is to celebrate his religious beliefs about what he sees as the moral foundation of the law, there's really no need to discuss things like the historical foundation of the law. Nevertheless, if he had wanted a display about the historical foundation of the law, he could easily do what has been done at the Supreme Court building, and display a variety of lawgivers from the ages, both secular and religious.

455 posted on 08/21/2003 12:03:10 PM PDT by general_re (A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
"May I ask, what gave you the clue that there wasn't a God?"

You may ask. But this thread is not about that subject. You can click on my name and go look at other messages from me. I have explained my atheism before.
456 posted on 08/21/2003 12:03:37 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Protagoras
Atheists should not try and figure the bible out,

Which of course would preclude them from becoming believers.

Good one, Protagoras!! I think many here are from the "I'll tell you what the Bible means, and you'll like it" school.

457 posted on 08/21/2003 12:03:40 PM PDT by HurkinMcGurkin
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To: lugsoul
Read his own words. They are not protected by the 1st Amendment. They are only protected by the Judeo-Christian God.

You're completely misreading his words. His position is this: God grants rights. The Consitution protects them. That's perfectly in line with the views of the Founders.

458 posted on 08/21/2003 12:04:27 PM PDT by inquest (We are NOT the world)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
The precedences are with out merit if there wasn't any statute of law...

I never said they had merit. That would be a matter of opinion.

Congress cannot make any law repecting any religion, nor stoping any free exercize of it...

Which has nothing to do with having the ten commandments in a court building. What is the purpose of it anyway?

459 posted on 08/21/2003 12:04:35 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: lugsoul
"Immigration has ruined this great country."

At what point did this begin? Or do you contend it should still be a land of native tribes?


"

I think he means all the immigrants that came after his relatives immigrated.
460 posted on 08/21/2003 12:04:38 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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