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Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/13/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

  1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
  2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
  3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
  4. Official chapter announcements
Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

  1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
  2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
  3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)


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To: dighton
Watch it. WhiskeyPapa will be in here claiming that RE Lee was a cross-dressing pedophile.
81 posted on 02/13/2003 7:11:32 AM PST by AppyPappy (Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
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To: Kevin Curry
The best thing to do is to wholly ignore these one-trick ponies (one-bong blowhards?), which I decided to do a few days ago.

As have I.

82 posted on 02/13/2003 7:12:45 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Get High on Life)
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To: dighton
>>See Civil War threads for another example.<<

No, the GOOD vitrol is on the "Have lots of children" versus "Childfree" (aka "Overpopulation" vs "be fruitful and multiply").

Man, those are flame-o-liscious!
83 posted on 02/13/2003 7:13:54 AM PST by freedumb2003
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To: bvw
"Even the Temperance Movement had more respect for the Constitution than that. They did it the legot way, they respected the LAW, they passed a Constitutional Amendment."

Ah-ah-ah. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Congress passed laws banning and restricting alcohol before the 18th amendment was passed.

84 posted on 02/13/2003 7:15:37 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Chad Fairbanks
You mean more than towel-snappings?
85 posted on 02/13/2003 7:16:01 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Whoa... more than I needed to know.)
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To: robertpaulsen
That's pretty clever. Whatever you do however, PLEASE don't circulate a strongly worded petition.
86 posted on 02/13/2003 7:16:49 AM PST by AUgrad (The power to tax involves the power to destroy. John Marshall)
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To: SquirrelKing
Well, Admin Moderator mentioned Propane, but I'm thinking more along the lines of Methane... That Dante, he was a wild man...
87 posted on 02/13/2003 7:16:55 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
As far as I'm concerned ... KC and FauxCWO no longer exist
88 posted on 02/13/2003 7:18:14 AM PST by clamper1797 (Please Do not Feed the Trolls)
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To: AppyPappy

RE Lee was a cross-dressing pedophile.

Learn something new every day.

89 posted on 02/13/2003 7:18:41 AM PST by ofMagog ( We are all tap dancing in the canoe of life.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Oklahoma City school kids got a day off today so teachers could protest budget cutbacks and get paid while doing it. If they had picked a weekend to protest it would have been on their own time. They took what is called a "snow day" in order to protest and stay on payroll.
90 posted on 02/13/2003 7:21:05 AM PST by dalebert
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To: dalebert
They did that here in Washington State a few weeks ago, too... now the kids lose a day of summer vacation... I mean, I wish I could take a paid day off from work to protest my pay...
91 posted on 02/13/2003 7:22:41 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Certainly they taxed it, as the Constitution allows. Where is the BAN? John Hancock speaks up from his grave and would like to know.
92 posted on 02/13/2003 7:29:29 AM PST by bvw
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"...methane..."

Beans, beans, good for your heart
The more you eat...

...the more your wife stops nagging you about your fiber intake and the amount of complete protein you take in each day instead of all those evilsatancommunistnazi carbohydrates that are not only making you fatter but will kill you before your prime and leave your children to become state-funded artists or telemarketers or something and not to mention your loving wife who is only looking out for whats best for you and thinks that tofu is great (not just karate for the ends of the feet) and that no, silly, you aren't less than a man for eating it and it doesnt matter if I told Jerry, the marine next door, what I was making you for supper and now he smirks at you.

By the way, tomorrow we're having something called "Tempeh"...
93 posted on 02/13/2003 7:31:26 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Whoa... more than I needed to know.)
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To: AUgrad
"Whatever you do however, PLEASE don't circulate a strongly worded petition."

From The People's Front of Judea? Or, The Judean Popular People's Front? Perhaps, The Judean People's Front? Splitters!

94 posted on 02/13/2003 7:32:13 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: kristinn
Correct. Absolutely.
95 posted on 02/13/2003 7:32:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Publius Maximus; kristinn
There is an announcement topic. You can add it as a sidebar by clicking here.

However, considering what the charter of this forum is, chapter activities will be promoted and welcome in the breaking news sidebar.

Thanks, AM

96 posted on 02/13/2003 7:34:26 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: robertpaulsen
The Judean front of people. Of course.
97 posted on 02/13/2003 7:39:09 AM PST by AUgrad (The power to tax involves the power to destroy. John Marshall)
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To: bvw
Hellooooo.....John Hancock!

The Lever Food and Fuel Control Act of August 1917 banned the production of distilled spirits for the duration of the war. The War Prohibition Act of November 1918 forbade the manufacture and sale of all intoxicating beverages of more than 2.75 percent alcohol content, beer and wine as well as hard liquor, until demobilization was completed.

The 18th amendment, BTW, was ratified January 16, 1919.

98 posted on 02/13/2003 7:39:38 AM PST by robertpaulsen (Drug warrior, extraordinaire.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
"Consider this an invitation from an anti-W.o.D. freeper to join in and argue your point."

I tried that when I first came to these boards, and acted civily. All the debate I got was: nazi, facist, statist, jackbooted thug, or posts similar to the one following yours. It felt like I was arguing with a liberal with all the name-calling and snide insults going on. And I actually joined in, acting childish in response. Then one day, I thought to myself, WTF? I'm not a kid in a playground, there's no need for me to act like one.

And to be fair, a good portion of the anti-drug crowd sling strong insults as well. But nowhere as hateful as the pro-drug ones, in my opinion. References comparing nazis (marching people into gas chambers) to US law enforcement agencies (who actually do solve a lot of crimes) does little but make this great website appear extremist and fringe.

If any of this post was personally insulting, it was not intended as so.

99 posted on 02/13/2003 7:41:19 AM PST by RabidBartender (Hi!)
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To: new cruelty
Yes. But again these are guidelines and not hard and fast rules.

A duplicate article, if noticed, will be pulled if the latest copy of it was less than 3-4 hours previously. This applies to relatively recent stories, however. For older stories, if it has been posted within a few days, or for really old stories, within a few weeks, then it will be pulled.

Search for articles before posting. If there is a duplicate, consider how fresh a story it is. If it is not very fresh, don't post the duplicate. If it is, then see if the thread has been in the last few hours and if it is, don't post it.

Thanks, AM

100 posted on 02/13/2003 7:45:15 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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