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Your Attention Please [Breaking News and WoD Flamewars]

Posted on 02/13/2003 6:20:56 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/13/2003 7:35:18 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Since my last vanity announcement on keywords went so swimmingly (it ended up with something like 5000 keywords added to it) I thought a great idea would be to throw some propane on some other fires with a vanity.

Breaking news is being abused again, big time. This goes in cycles, with sometimes people being responsible, but other times people not being very responsible.

We are in one of the not-very time periods.

Please, do not post something in Breaking News because you think it is something you want people to see. Place something in Breaking News only if it is

  1. Something the networks would interrupt their programming to say,
  2. The networks would interrupt their programming to say if they weren't overwhelmingly liberal,
  3. Something that honestly would (not should, would) be of interest to majority of self-described conservatives
  4. Official chapter announcements
Or things along those lines. Don't consider that a list of rules, but of guidelines. But act as if the guidelines matter, please. And flame the heck out of people that don't. And provide appropriate feedback to people who don't.

Some things that are never breaking news: Stories that have been posted before, stories that are over a day old, opinion vanities, freep this poll, or anything from the op-ed section of any newspaper.

Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop. If you feel the need to flame someone for something they say on one of these threads, do this (and yes, it involves a lot more work than just hitting reply, but such is life):

  1. Post a copy of the article to the Smokey Backroom
  2. Ping your flamee to that copy.
  3. Go to town over there and keep the crap off the main forum.

Instead of hitting abuse on someone on a WoD thread right away (unless it is extremely bad), please just advise them to do what I am saying here- take it to the backroom. Link them to this if need be. And if you don't want to get into a flamewar, leave it at that. If you do, then join them in the backroom and have at it. The WoD flamewars overwhelm the latest posts page with a neverending sequence of posts that are just mindless insults. Please, spare us, and don't try to put it on the moderators to determine who fired the first shot. There are rarely clean hands here, and no matter what we do one side or another is going to complain.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Freeping. I expect no fewer than 500 taunts at us in the keywords here before this is over. Thank you, and God Bless. ;-)


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To: CWOJackson
No thanks, I'm quite finished with the likes of you.
61 posted on 02/13/2003 6:57:37 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Admin Moderator
Are there any guidelines for posting with regards to multiple threads?

Yesterday three threads on Sean Penn were posted, all citing the same article from the NY Post. I posted a fourth thread(if you can't beat em...) that was pulled after around 9 posts.

62 posted on 02/13/2003 6:57:55 AM PST by new cruelty
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Don't be too sure about that.
63 posted on 02/13/2003 6:58:42 AM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Kevin Curry
. . . are almost always initiated by a small number of drug-obsessed libertarians who spend every waking minute scouring the Internet for some isolated news story or "High Times" editorial, posting it front page and then pinging a melee into existence. The best thing to do is to wholly ignore these one-trick ponies (one-bong blowhards?), which I decided to do a few days ago.

EXACTLY what we're talking about!!! Ladies and gentlemen, you simply can't make this stuff up any better than it happens in real life.

64 posted on 02/13/2003 7:00:17 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Kevin Curry
Your changes are an improvement. The best solution, IMO, would be to relegate the whole dope-wars babble and squawk to a backroom from the get-go.

And suppress the whole arguement, since you guys know you will loose sometime in the next 30 years.
65 posted on 02/13/2003 7:00:54 AM PST by toothless
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To: CWOJackson
Don't be too sure about that.

That a threat?

66 posted on 02/13/2003 7:00:55 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: BlueLancer
The Sand Pepples was great and flawed ... great up to the end where it became preachy anti-war. The charater dynamics apprciate how men working together in a military mission become greater than they would alone. It reminds me of both of the two movie versions of "Law and Order" -- the second with Ronald Reagan, btw -- meant to be anti-gun screeds, they end up making a better case for the right to bear arms -- the charaters appreciate a good personal arm (especially in the 30's version, were one of the main leads carries a short-barreled shot gun).
67 posted on 02/13/2003 7:01:39 AM PST by bvw
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To: Admin Moderator
Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop.

The only way this will be achieved is if you simply ban those who support the ridiculous and highly immoral idea of drug legalization. That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

Just my humble opinion.

68 posted on 02/13/2003 7:01:49 AM PST by Houmatt (Bowling For Columbine Best Documentary Feature? Are you insane?)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
What's this 'we' stuff? Got someone in your pocketses?
69 posted on 02/13/2003 7:01:53 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: Admin Moderator
I really do like your sense of humor. Thanks for all you do...
70 posted on 02/13/2003 7:02:24 AM PST by eureka! (The Lamestream Presstitutes are not an honest bunch, are they?)
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To: robertpaulsen
A noble effort, undertaken and supported by those of us who desire a safe, sane, and drug-free America.

Say WHAT?? Look you *&*%%^ I have had it with you and your ilk! I fart in your general direction! How DARE you come on this thread and say such nonsense! You must not have a single brain cell! What is your problem? Did your parents know each other???? Are all your posts this stupid???

I beg to differ. But of course, you have your perspective and I have mine.

71 posted on 02/13/2003 7:04:13 AM PST by freedumb2003
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To: Houmatt
That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

Funny . . . I don't recall seeing you on many WoD threads. If it's not a conservative concept, I wonder if you'd care to come on a thread and explain why, because none of the other Drug Warriors have been able to explain why supporting the W.o.D. is a conservative concept. Consider this an invitation from an anti-W.o.D. freeper to join in and argue your point.

72 posted on 02/13/2003 7:04:18 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Houmatt
The only way this will be achieved is if you simply ban those who support the ridiculous and highly immoral idea of drug legalization. That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.


73 posted on 02/13/2003 7:04:23 AM PST by toothless
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Funny . . . I don't recall seeing you on many WoD threads. If it's not a conservative concept, I wonder if you'd care to come on a thread and explain why, because none of the other Drug Warriors have been able to explain why supporting the W.o.D. is a conservative concept. Consider this an invitation from an anti-W.o.D. freeper to join in and argue your point.

There is a section of conservatives that do not differ very much from the Taliban in their desire to control other people's morals.
74 posted on 02/13/2003 7:05:59 AM PST by toothless
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To: maui_hawaii
Ask and ye shall receive:


75 posted on 02/13/2003 7:06:41 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Houmatt
Even the Temperance Movement had more respect for the Constitution than that. They did it the legot way, they respected the LAW, they passed a Constitutional Amendment.

There seems to be a mixed gang of thugs willing to kick the Constitution while it's down -- the nanny-state socialists with government as the Uber-Mammy, and the drug warriors, with governement as the Uber-Papa. Well many of us hold to a higher standard -- the government is a contract between adults.

76 posted on 02/13/2003 7:06:59 AM PST by bvw
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To: Houmatt
The only way this will be achieved is if you simply ban those who support the ridiculous and highly immoral idea of drug legalization. That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

One doesn't have to support drug legalization to have concerns about the trampling of the Constitution that appears to be occurring because of the WoD... but then, that's MY opinion...

77 posted on 02/13/2003 7:07:30 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: Admin Moderator
"A great flame follows a little spark."

-Dante Alighieri (1265 - 1321), The Divine Comedy
78 posted on 02/13/2003 7:07:56 AM PST by SquirrelKing (Whoa... more than I needed to know.)
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To: SquirrelKing
"A great flame follows a little spark."

Ah yes... Dante... this line was inspired by some incidents in our Jr. high Locker Room...

79 posted on 02/13/2003 7:09:23 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: AppyPappy; aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah
See Civil War threads for another example.

Let bygones be bygones, I say. Never mind that the tyrant Lincoln stomped my great-great grandpa's puppy.

80 posted on 02/13/2003 7:09:25 AM PST by dighton
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