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Mayor, Chief seek Gun Restrictions(HELP!!! MAJOR gun grab being attemted in Lincoln Nebraska.)
The Lincoln Journal Star ^ | Friday, January 31, 2003 | Aaron Sanderford and Nate Jenkins

Posted on 02/01/2003 12:29:47 AM PST by Super Mak90kid

Mayor, chief seek gun restrictions BY AARONS ANDERFORD / Lincoln Journal Star and NATE JENKINS

If Lincoln's mayor and police chief get their way, more criminals could be arrested for carrying guns, and others could find it harder to sell potentially stolen goods.

Mayor Don Wesely and Police Chief Tom Casady offered three potential ordinances Thursday. They plan to bring the proposals to the City Council in March.

The proposals will ask the council to enact the following changes:

• Prohibit people convicted of theft or a theft-related crimes twice over the last 10 years from selling or trading property to pawn brokers and dealers of secondhand jewelry.

• Make it illegal to keep firearms in parked, unattended vehicles for more than 24 hours.

• Outlaw firearms possession for people convicted of any of 19 charges the mayor and chief selected as "serious, violent or potentially violent misdemeanors."

Police say they found a positive reaction to the first proposal when Casady met Jan. 17 with pawn shop owners and managers.

Jeremy Cosier, manager of Capitol City Pawn &Jewelry, 2541 N. 11th St., said owners initially worried what would be required of them. Those fears were allayed.

"What it's going to try to do is weed out a bad element," Cosier said. "Pawn shops get that bad image, but we're more than happy to cooperate with police and get those types of folks out of the shops."

State law requires pawn shops to provide police information about items they purchase and the people who sold them.

If the proposal were to pass, police would be able to cross-reference lists of who's selling what with lists of known criminals and arrest those who sell items to pawn shops or dealers of secondhand jewelry.

Pawn brokers would not be given a "hot" list of names to avoid, officials said, but would be required to avoid buying from people they knew were convicted twice of such crimes.

No one interviewed Thursday expressed angst about the 24-hour proposal for keeping handguns out of unattended cars.

Investigators brought the ordinance idea to Casady after several victims of larcenies from autos reported firearms stolen.

The firearms-possession ban is modeled on restrictions Omaha uses to keep people convicted of violent misdemeanors from getting gun permits.

Omaha's ordinance also denies gun registration to anyone with a record of drug use or of dangerous mental disorders.

Lincoln's proposal would not address the mental health or substance abuse questions, because both are addressed in state law, Casady said.

But the language of the proposals could ignite legal challenges if written too broadly, said Tim Butz, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Nebraska.

Butz worried most about the inclusion of "obstructing government operations" among misdemeanors that could eliminate someone's right to bear arms.

Political demonstrators, particularly at war times, are cited for such crimes, he said.

"What the mayor and the chief are talking about could be completely constitutional if done right, and it could be flagrantly unconstitutional if not,"he said.

City Council members, some of whom first learned of the proposals Thursday, said they need more information and discussion before they'll take concrete positions.

Framing the gun-possession debate will be questions of fairness -- specifically fairness to those convicted of the targeted crimes, council members said.

Councilwoman Annette McRoy said she doesn't yet know enough to say "yea or nay" but added that the ordinances "sound good."

Councilwoman Coleen Seng, a candidate for mayor, said she trusts Casady's judgment.

Councilman Ken Svoboda said public reaction could be a major factor in his decision.

"I'm for anything that takes firearms out of the hands of a potential or convicted criminal," said Svoboda. "But there's a fine line" between public protection and infringing on an individual's rights.

Reach Aaron Sanderford at 473-7225 or Reach Nate Jenkins at 473-7223 or

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I have been a member of Free Republic for some time and this is my first time ever posting a thread. We here in lincoln need your help! The 19 "potentially violent Misdemeanors" are: 1.Unlawful discharge of Firearms 2.Carrying a concealed weapon 3.Second-degree false imprisonment 4.unlawful posession of explosives 5.use of explosives without a permit 6.obstructing a Police Officer 7.Introducing Contraband or escape Implements 8. Furnishing Firearms, ammunition, or weapons to minors 9.Resisting Arrest 10.Debauching a minor 11. First-degree criminal trespass 12.Third-degree sexual assault 13. Second degree false imprisonment 14.concealing death of a another person 15.Salking 16. Violation of a protection order 17. Criminal Child Enticement 18. Impersonating a Police Officer 19. Attempting any felony OR any of the above misdemeanors

I got that list right out of todays paper(although the list is not mentiond on the internet story).

What can I do to fight this!?!? Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated

1 posted on 02/01/2003 12:29:48 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid
Dear Editor,

Mayor Wesely and Chief Casady cast their net way too wide with their planned restrictions on gun ownership (Mayor, Chief Seek Gun Restrictions, January 31.)

Making life difficult for gunowners won't reduce crime, gentlemen. We tried the whole antigun shebang, here in Australia- banning semi-autos, gun registration, buybacks, the lot. And we have seen subsequent increases in violent crime, in certain states, of up to 40%.

Don't make the same mistake we did, Downunder. Target criminals, not responsible gunowners, if you really want to reduce crime.

Yours faithfully
Byron Stander,
Sydney, Australia

2 posted on 02/01/2003 12:46:37 AM PST by Byron_the_Aussie
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To: Super Mak90kid
Sorry that the post was not profesionally put up. But the major point of this story is that the fine Citizens of Lincoln Nebraska that have ever been convicted of any of the 19 Misdemeanors can never possess guns again! Police Cheif Tom Casady is largely responsible for this proposed legislation. Any thoughts or ideas would be helpful.
3 posted on 02/01/2003 12:49:33 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Byron_the_Aussie
Thanks for the support Byron, Your a true patriot. God bless you.
4 posted on 02/01/2003 12:50:46 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid
The only part that makes any sense is not leaving a handgun in a car for 24 hours, only a fool leaves his pistol in the car.

I always thought the people in Nebraska had their heads on striaght, My brother tells me, you have to get a permit to buy a pistol in the City of Lincoln. Things have really changed since I left 15 years ago.

That is a tough one, sounds like the city council is front loaded with gun grabbers. The only thing I can think of is fill the council chamber with folks that object, every time they meet, and every one there fill out a request to speak. Filibuster them until they change their minds.

5 posted on 02/01/2003 12:56:23 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: Super Mak90kid
Those fools need to look around them a little, if they want to reduce crime on the streets, arm the citizenery. Pass a shall issue concealed carry law.

They tell me Ernie won't let that happen.

6 posted on 02/01/2003 1:02:49 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: c-b 1
Thanks for your reply. Yes, Lincoln is really changing and it's all for the worst. Our Police Cheif hates the Constitution, so that doesn't help matters any. I plan to show up at the meeting to discuss this issue with the City Councel. Thanks for the advice.
7 posted on 02/01/2003 1:03:33 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: c-b 1
This is Ernie's last year! And ccw looks likely(hopefuly) to pass this year. I can only hope.
8 posted on 02/01/2003 1:04:58 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid
We have changed the city council's mind on a couple of their "big spender" ideas when enough people spoke out against what they wanted to do.

We haven't had a problem with the city passing any laws restricting gun rights here, state law prevents it. Two years ago the county passed an ordnance banning guns in county buildings, it is vague, and poorly written, there is some wording about people with CCW permits, which indicates that we are exempt, so we ignore it.

9 posted on 02/01/2003 1:17:11 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: c-b 1
Good for you guys! What state do you live in now?
10 posted on 02/01/2003 1:23:04 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid; Byron_the_Aussie
Byron, that's surely a good letter!

Super, first off, I see Lincoln's got about 250,000 people, so it is by my reckoning a fairly big town-- how is your local talk radio? Pretty active? That's a good place to start a grassroots campaign. Gather your friends, get some talking points together ( but try to keep it simple, and diverse- Byron's letter is a good springboard.) Attack it from every angle everyone can think up. It doesn't matter how off-the-wall it sounds- the idea is to make people start thinking and question "this new, wonderful cure for all our problems..."

Don't overlook letters to editors- not just the local papers- anything in print. Magazines, tourist guides, University publications- anything that lies around waiting to be read is fair game.

Try to get outside organizations interested in your cause- just off the top of my head:

Run a web search for local/regional groups interested in the 2nd Amendment, too... hunters groups, trapshooters, target shooters-- dare I suggest gay groups, like the Pink Pistols? You take whatever allies you can find in a fight like this, sort 'em out later!
11 posted on 02/01/2003 1:23:44 AM PST by backhoe (A society that doesn't trust honest Citizens with guns is a Society that I don't much trust...)
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To: c-b 1
I hope it does pass. You need to get this lady to testify before the Senate, her parents were killed in the Lubys Restaurant massacre in Texas, it was illegal to carry concealed then, she left her gun in the car. She got herself elected to the Texas House of Representatives, and got a concealed law passed. I have heard her speak, there isn't a dry eye in the house when she is finished.

12 posted on 02/01/2003 1:28:27 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: Super Mak90kid; Admin Moderator

Get me spell check!!!!

13 posted on 02/01/2003 1:28:49 AM PST by L.N. Smithee ("OK, everybody! Look Polish!" -- T. Servo)
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To: Super Mak90kid
14 posted on 02/01/2003 1:29:17 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: L.N. Smithee
ALL RIGHT, a polish joke, I haven't heard one of those for 15 years.
15 posted on 02/01/2003 1:31:29 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: backhoe
Thank you so much for your inspiring post! I plan to start rallying the troops starting this morning(I have a weekend class that starts in about 5 and a half hours). I'm so upset by this matter it's hard to sleep. I feel like once this issue is resolved, my next task is to oust Police Cheif Casaday from his job. It's not easy loving freedom. Thanks again:)
16 posted on 02/01/2003 1:31:38 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: c-b 1
Cool. My Aunt and Uncle live there. I have visited many times. Your lucky.
17 posted on 02/01/2003 1:33:34 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid
You are to be commended for standing up for the people's rights when you are planning on leaving.
18 posted on 02/01/2003 1:35:44 AM PST by c-b 1
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To: L.N. Smithee

Get me spell check!!!!

Sorry, very tired here. There are two spelling errors in my title alone. I'll do better next time.

19 posted on 02/01/2003 1:37:43 AM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid
I'll call my brother over the weekend, and see if I can build a fire under him.
20 posted on 02/01/2003 1:38:59 AM PST by c-b 1
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