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Mayor, Chief seek Gun Restrictions(HELP!!! MAJOR gun grab being attemted in Lincoln Nebraska.)
The Lincoln Journal Star ^ | Friday, January 31, 2003 | Aaron Sanderford and Nate Jenkins

Posted on 02/01/2003 12:29:47 AM PST by Super Mak90kid

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To: Skybird
I wonder if there's any coincidence that there's a bill up in the legislature to provide for concealed carry in Nebraska (only about the fourth or fifth time).

The timing's just about right to make one suspect it.

I thought the exact same thing when I read that terrible article. The're trying to divert attention any from Concealed Carry. And if it passes,they want to make sure as few people as possible can qualify. Sickos.

101 posted on 02/01/2003 10:56:46 PM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Pablo64
I Agree. I hope CCW legislation passes this time. But still, I'm concerned on how Police will treat those of us who do carry. I guess only time will tell.
102 posted on 02/01/2003 11:03:15 PM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid; L.N. Smithee
"Cheif"?

Well the Lincoln Journal-(Red)Star announced recently that it would not print "native-American" sports teams names, such as the Washington Redskins.

Perhaps, "Police Cheif" is their new spelling for, in their opinion, the racist term "Police Chief".

103 posted on 02/01/2003 11:11:09 PM PST by F-117A
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To: Rebelbase
What states allow you to purchase a pistol without a permit?

The state has nothing to do with a city requiring you to get a permit from the city to buy a pistol in that city.

No permit is required to buy a pistol in Arizona, just fill out the ATF forms, the gun store calls your info in, and when you are cleared you go pick up the gun. CCW permit holders fill out the ATF forms, show the CCW, and leave the store with the gun.

104 posted on 02/01/2003 11:21:40 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: billsux
The ACLU is only there for anti American peaceniks. Their only reason for possibily intervening. They would never take a pro Constitution stance. It's not in their interests.
106 posted on 02/02/2003 9:46:55 AM PST by zip
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To: Pavlovs Dog
say we are no different from the Banners who lockstep support total gun bans for everyone. Both knee jerk positions

Your major error is believing that this is the final step in gun grabbing. THIS IS ONLY A FIRST STEP TO ELIMINATING YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS. Don't be taken in by the anti American gun grabbers BS.

107 posted on 02/02/2003 9:53:44 AM PST by zip
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To: Super Mak90kid
We may not win this but it's our job to fight these bastards every step of the way.

That, or watch our legacy of freedom lost in our generation.

Not on my watch.

109 posted on 02/02/2003 12:52:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Pavlovs Dog
If you can't stand a little direct conversation without calling it a preachy personal attack, click on back to your usual more tender and sensitive websites.

Nobody on this thread has been advocating pedophile rights, that is your red herring.

What I am pointing out is that time and time again, a statute such as #8 is sold as preventing guns going to underage gang bangers, yet in the end it is used to imprison uncles for letting their nephews go plinking with a .22, the way that generations have done in America since the days of Jefferson and Adams.

If you can't grasp that simple truth, then you are terminally naive, or have an anti RKBA agenda. Just look at how RICO and asset forfeiture have been misused if you don't understand what I am talking about.

In any case, if I am "too preachy" for you, I suggest your absence from FR will not be noticeed.

110 posted on 02/02/2003 1:00:20 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Super Mak90kid
6.obstructing a Police Officer 9.Resisting Arrest

It is simply NOT ACCEPTABLE to remove a citizens Constitutional rights on the word of a police officer that claims someone "resisted arrest" or "obstructed their investigation." That is too much power to place in the hands of a single LEO. It amounts to "obey me or I'll take your rights away."

111 posted on 02/02/2003 1:05:12 PM PST by ez ("If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning." - GWB)
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To: ez
It is simply NOT ACCEPTABLE to remove a citizens Constitutional rights on the word of a police officer that claims someone "resisted arrest" or "obstructed their investigation." That is too much power to place in the hands of a single LEO. It amounts to "obey me or I'll take your rights away."

You're absolutely right! I got pulled over a few years ago on a routine traffic stop and a friend of mine was with me. They checked his license along with mine and found out he had an arrest warrant for an unpaid ticket. Without telling me what was happening they ordered him out of the car, cuffed him, and put him in the back of their cruiser. They just told me to be on my way and then they walked off. I got out of my car and insisted they tell me why they are taking him to jail(he lived with his dad and I needed to explain what happened to him since I picked him up). At that point they got hostile and told me if I said one more thing I would be going to jail for "obstructing a Peace Officer". Just for asking a reasonable question. Had they carried through with that threat I would no longer be able to own guns under this new law. Very scary thought.

112 posted on 02/02/2003 1:32:16 PM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Pavlovs Dog
someone, please give me a reasonable explanation for why i should want a pedophile to have a gun...

I don't want pedophiles to have guns anymore than you do. This bill is far more complicated than that. This deals with 19 misdemeanors. About half of them can be pretty minor in many cases. It's also a matter of due process. The more liberty the state is trying to deprive someone of, the more due process they are supposed to have. That is why you are entitled to a jury of your peers when charged with a felony, but not with a misdemeanor. Taking away a person's second amendment rights should be much tougher than just the word of a cop and a judge.

113 posted on 02/02/2003 1:48:08 PM PST by Super Mak90kid
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To: Super Mak90kid
"I'm for anything that takes firearms out of the hands of a potential or convicted criminal," said Svoboda.

Well that would be every single person on earth, now wouldn't it?

Tar and feather this statist bastard!

114 posted on 02/02/2003 2:06:49 PM PST by BikerTrash
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To: Travis McGee
I want to take you to task for posting the link to your book, Enemies; Foreign and Domestic. I overslept this morning.

I clicked on it last night and started reading. I kept telling myself, "Just one more section, then I'll go to bed."

Well it was about 3:30a.m. when I finally finished the last one. I couldn't stop reading. It was that compelling.

Expect a check for your book this week. Hurry up and finish that book. I can't wait to read the whole thing.

Good luck with your book.

116 posted on 02/02/2003 5:03:03 PM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Betty Jane
Thanks, glad you liked it! One thing though, I apologize that the version on the website is a few revisions old, the book form will be much tighter and of course proofread for style and typos.

I just can't take the time now to go back and update the versions on the website which are all in HTML format, I do all the revising on my MS Word document files.

BTW, as a woman, do you "buy" Ranya? I have eight sisters, and I like to think I grew up with more insight into female psychology, speech etc than many.

Matt

117 posted on 02/02/2003 7:42:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
I think you've got Ranya down pretty well. She seems real, so far. I was a little tomboy, too, so I can relate. Even my little prissy daughter likes to do "boy" stuff with her dad sometimes. Who doesn't?

The typos weren't a problem.

The fact that I couldn't stop reading it, just amazed me. I read a lot and not many books grab me. I just hope the rest of it moves along like the excerpts. I can't wait to find out what happens. And no, don't tell me.

Start shopping the movie rights now.

118 posted on 02/02/2003 8:29:05 PM PST by Betty Jane
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To: Betty Jane
Well I'm glad it pulled you along, that's the important thing. And I promise that the pace and excitement level increase to the last chapter.

Movie rights? Now that's a nice dream, I'd just like to have folks read it!

119 posted on 02/02/2003 8:39:06 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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