Posted on 12/11/2002 1:19:33 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
CNN and the Chechen Mujhadeen are accusing Christians of murdering Muslims.
Here is Pat Robertson's response to CNN's baseless and inciting charge at the Nov. 26 interview on CNN.
The following is Islamist propaganda from the official website of the Chechen Mujhadeen.... SAVIDGE: And there are Christians that are also burning mosques as well.
ROBERTSON: No, they're not. Come off it. You know better than that. Christianity is a peaceful religion, and we're out to talk about peace. And I ran a television station that promoted peace between Muslims, Christians and Jews in the Middle East for 18 years, and I'm an advocate of peace, period. Thank you.
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Open letter to Rev. Pat Robertson | |
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Rev. Pat Robertson
The Christian Broadcasting Network
Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Rev. Pat Robertson,
On November 26, 2002 you gave an interview to Martin Savidge of CNN. Your interview proves that you certainly need help. I am sure you realize that telling a lie is a sin in Christianity. In your interview you tried to misguide and misinform people by making wrong remarks about "Jihad" and peaceful nature of Islam. Just reading the translation of Qur'an and quoting it's verses out of context is a big dishonesty and immoral.
Without going into details I would like to ask you the following questions. I am sure you know the answers of these questions. These facts are in the history books written by Christian authors.
Who killed thousands of aboriginal people in North America and Australia in order to occupy their lands and properties?
Who killed millions of South Americans?
Who killed millions of human beings in World War I?
Who killed 6 million Jews during World War II?
Who killed 2 million Polish Christians in World War II?
Who killed 6 million Chinese during the invasion of China?
Who killed 2 million Cambodian during the civil war?
Who killed more than 2 million Filipinos during invasion of Philippines?
Who killed more than half million Tibetans during the last 6 decades?
Who killed more than 2 million Vietnamese during the Vietnam War?
Who dropped chemical and biological bombs on Vietnam?
Who dropped nuclear bombs on Japan and killed thousands of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Who killed more than 2 million African Christians in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Burundi and Congo within the last two decades?
Who made more than 9.5 million human beings refugees in Africa?
Who is killing and confiscating lands from White farmers in Zimbabwe?
Who invented the nuclear, biological and chemical bombs?
Who sells the most sophisticated bombs and the best killing machines to the world?
Who killed hundreds of blacks in America and did not consider them as human beings until 1960s.
Who are White Supremacists?
Who did not consider women as persons until 1940s?
I am purposely not asking you about the killings of millions of Muslims in Bosnia, Kossovo, Chechnya, Kashmir, Palestine, Russian Federation, Iraq, Afghanistan, China, India, etc.
Can you please prove that the most of the above holocaust and genocide of human race were not caused by the people who claimed to be Christians? Non-Muslims also created the other genocide? If you are interested I can send you a longer list of all the holocausts and genocide caused by the people who were not Muslims.
Rev. Robertson, I propose that you and I have a dialogue. You should bring a list of all the killings carried out by the Muslims throughout the history and I will bring a list of all the killings caused by the non-Muslims. And let us compare the both lists. I am confident that I can prove that the killings carried out by the Muslims are negligible compared to the killings carried out by Christians and other non-Muslims.
On behalf of Islamic Supreme Council of Canada (ISCC), I would like to invite you to visit Canada and we will arrange an open town hall meeting to discuss your issues with Islam. ISCC will pay all your traveling and lodging expenses. If this is not possible for you, please let me know when and where you can meet with me to have a dialogue and I will travel to your place on my own expenses.
I strongly believe in bringing together the followers of Christianity, Islam and Judaism. These three great religions have more in common than the differences but people like you are destroying these efforts.
Rev. Robertson, your ignorance about Qur'an, Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and Islam is so deep that you do not even know the basic beliefs of a Muslim. You do not even know how to spell Qur'an (it is not Koran, it is Qur'an). We are here to help you. We, as Muslims do not hate God's creation. It is a requirement of our faith that we like for others what we like for ourselves. We just want to educate you about Islam so that you can be a better person.
In the past we had asked Rev. Franklin Graham, Rev. Jerry Falwell and other Christian leaders to attend our course Islam 101 in Toronto and ask as many questions as you want about Islam and Muslims. But please do not badmouth about our religion in the media. We do not have access to the media as you do. We, the Muslims living in Canada and the USA know that the media in North America is NOT FREE. In the third world countries, the dictators and the governments control the media while the Western media is controlled by the rich and strong interest groups. Had the media in the west free, Muslim leaders would have gotten the equal chance to respond to the comments made by the people like yourself.
I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. Seasons greetings to you and to your family and friends.
Thanks
Syed B. SoharwardyIslam Internet sources
2002-12-10 03:18:52
Who still doesn't regard women as persons?
I'm guessing this guy's not a native Canadian.
I don't know - at no point were "millions" of South Americans killed en masse.
Who killed millions of human beings in World War I?
Soldiers?
Who killed 6 million Jews during World War II?
Nazi pagans.
Who killed 2 million Polish Christians in World War II?
Nazi pagans and Communist atheists.
Who killed 6 million Chinese during the invasion of China?
Japanese Shintoists.
Who killed 2 million Cambodian during the civil war?
Communist atheists.
Who killed more than 2 million Filipinos during invasion of Philippines?
Nobody, since this number has been debunked long ago.
Who killed more than half million Tibetans during the last 6 decades?
Maoist atheists.
Who killed more than 2 million Vietnamese during the Vietnam War?
Communist atheists.
Who dropped chemical and biological bombs on Vietnam?
Nobody. Who dropped nuclear bombs on Japan and killed thousands of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
US Air force pilots.
Who killed more than 2 million African Christians in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Burundi and Congo within the last two decades?
An assortment of animists, nationalists and Communists. Who made more than 9.5 million human beings refugees in Africa?
Muslims
Who is killing and confiscating lands from White farmers in Zimbabwe?
Communist atheists
Who invented the nuclear, biological and chemical bombs?
Scientists Who sells the most sophisticated bombs and the best killing machines to the world?
A number of countries. Who buys them because they're incapable of building their own?
Who killed hundreds of blacks in America and did not consider them as human beings until 1960s.
Nobody
Who are White Supremacists?
Nazi pagans
Who did not consider women as persons until 1940s?
Nobody. I'd say Muslims, but they still don't consider women to be persons
Um. Hitler was NO Christian. Period.
Who is killing and confiscating lands from White farmers in Zimbabwe?
Um. How about it's communist dictator and his "war veterans"? Not Christians.
Who did not consider women as persons until 1940s?
Um. Jesus, the founder of Christianity, highly respected woman during his ministry, as do those who follow Jesus. The founder if Islam raped them while they were still children.
This author is either evil and deceptive, or stupid and deceived himself.
Belief 1: Kill the infidel.
Belief 2: Rape and kill his wife.
Belief 3: Kill his children.
Belief 4: Kill his dog.
Belief 5: Burn his house down.
Belief 6: Kill his neighbor.
Belief 7: Repeat steps 2 through 5 with regards to the neighbor.
Belief 8: Praise Allah.
Since he's a Muslim, most likely the former.
It was a televised interview -- the only ones misspelling the word 'Koran' was CNN who posted the transcript.
It's obvious that CNN does not even know the basic beliefs of a Muslim and does not know how to spell either.
Soldiers? I think it was influenza..
What about the 20 Russians killed under Stalin's regime?
any other major slaughters that we have left out (unborn people don't count).
INFO CENTRE.ru (INTERFAX - AVN): "SATELLITE COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT SEIZED FROM CHECHEN GUERILLAS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "During the special operation, federal forces seized some 25kg of TNT as well as modern communication devices costing thousands of U.S. dollars. Shabalkin said that such equipment helps establish communication with any part of the world. "It is supposed that the seized equipment was used to contact, among others, the headquarters of the Muslim Brothers and Al-Queda organizations," he noted.")(120302)
THE MOSCOW TIMES Hot News (INTERFAX): "TWO BLASTS OCCUR AT VLADIKAVAZ STADIUM" (ARTICLE BRIEF: "VLADIKAVKAZ. Nov 17 (Interfax) - Two explosions occurred within a couple of seconds at the Spartak central stadium in Vladikavkaz at 7:20 p.m. Moscow time, or about an hour after a soccer match between the host team of Alania and Rotor from Volgograd was wrapped up, a source with the North Ossetian Interior Ministry told Interfax. First information indicates that the blasts did not injure anyone.") (111702)
ANANOVA.com: "MOSCOW POLICE USE MATTRESS TO ARREST SUSPECTED REBEL" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Police in Moscow have arrested a suspected Chechen rebel who was carrying a large amount of poisonous mercury. They received information about Sergei Krymgerei who is allegedly a member of a gang headed by Chechen warlord Shamil Basayev. Police say he was carrying nearly 18 pounds of mercury in a bottle and they used a mattress to stop him from breaking it open.") (ARTICLE NOTE: The bottle containing the alleged mercury was described as a champagne bottle.) (103102)
MEMRI.org - MIDDLE EAST MEDIA RESEARCH INSTITUTE Special Dispatch Series No. 434: "PRO-CHECHEN ISLAMIST WEBSITE: ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS INTERPRETATION PERMITS KILLING OF PRISONERS" (ARTICLE NOTE: THE Islamist website is http://www.qoqaz.com) (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In an article titled "A Guide to the Perplexed Regarding the Permissibility of Killing Prisoners," which appeared in the column "Jihad News from the Land of the Caucasus(1)" the author suggests that the Islamic religious scholars present five different alternatives, drawn from the various interpretations of the Koran: 1) A polytheist prisoner must be killed. No amnesty may be granted to him, nor can he be ransomed. 2) All infidel polytheists and the People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians) are to be killed. They may not be granted amnesty, nor can they be ransomed. 3) Amnesty and ransom are the only two ways to deal with prisoners. 4) Amnesty and ransom are possible only after the killing of a large number of prisoners. 5) The Imam, or someone acting on his behalf, can choose between killing, amnesty, ransom or enslaving the prisoner.") (102602)
The British
Who killed millions of South Americans?
The Spanish
Who killed millions of human beings in World War I?
Europeans.
Who killed 6 million Jews during World War II?
National Socialists (Teutonic pagans).
Who killed 2 million Polish Christians in World War II?
Socialists (both national and international).
Who killed 6 million Chinese during the invasion of China?
The Japanese.
Who killed 2 million Cambodian during the civil war?
Communists.
Who killed more than 2 million Filipinos during invasion of Philippines?
Japanese.
Who killed more than half million Tibetans during the last 6 decades?
Chinese Communists.
Who killed more than 2 million Vietnamese during the Vietnam War?
Americans and Vietnamese. But they were all bad.
Who dropped chemical and biological bombs on Vietnam?
Nobody.
Who dropped nuclear bombs on Japan and killed thousands of people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Americans. And it was the right thing to do.
Who killed more than 2 million African Christians in Rwanda, Sierra Leone, Burundi and Congo within the last two decades?
Muslims.
Who made more than 9.5 million human beings refugees in Africa?
Other Africans.
Who is killing and confiscating lands from White farmers in Zimbabwe?
The despot Mugabe.
Who invented the nuclear, biological and chemical bombs?
Robert Oppenheimer, the Scythians around 400BC, and Solon of Athens
Who sells the most sophisticated bombs and the best killing machines to the world?
The French (the U.S. has "the most sophisticated" bombs, but we don't sell them "to the world" as well as the French do).
Who killed hundreds of blacks in America and did not consider them as human beings until 1960s.
Nobody worth mentioning (KKK maybe?)
Who are White Supremacists?
Senator and KKK member Robert Byrd? The Congressional democrats for refusing to select a better qualified man as minority leader because he was black?
Can you please prove that the most of the above holocaust and genocide of human race were not caused by the people who claimed to be Christians?
Easily. Nearly all of the claims made against "Christians" above are the results of actions from pagan national socialists, atheist communists, and animist asiatics (WWII Japan certainly wasn't a Christian nation). A few are even muslim (like Mugabe in Rhodesia, or the first use of biological agents in modern times, by Tunisian muslims against Christians in the late 1700s). It would seem that Islam isn't content with merely being a religion of lies; but they also have to be one of slander. Sadly, I suspect that far too many people in the world are sufficiently ignorant of history and will accept the false claims at face value.
I hadn't noticed that - his speech patterns just didn't seem quite right so I took a look around.
"Prof. Syed B. Soharwardy was born in a very highly respected religious family in Karachi, Pakistan. His father and Murshad (spiritual guide), Allama Syed Muhammad Riazuddin Soharwardy (May Allah shower His blessings upon him) was a Khateeb and Imam of a famous mosque, Jamia Bughdadi Masjid, Martin Road, Karachi. Syed B. Soharwardy's grandfather, Allama Syed Muhammad Jalaluddin Chishty (May Allah shower His blessings upon him) was a Grand Mufti of Kashmir (Baramula). Allama Jalaluddin Chishty later migrated to Amritser (India) where he served as Khateeb and Imam of a Mosque.
Mr. Soharwardy received his early Islamic education from his father in the traditional Islamic Madrasah at Bughdadi Masjid. Later, he graduated from Dar-ul-Aloom Soharwardia, Karachi. Mr. Soharwardy also earned Bachelor of Arts degree in Islamic Studies from University of Karachi. Beside his Islamic education, Mr. Soharwardy earned Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical) from N.E.D. University of Engineering & Technology, Karachi, Master of Science in Management Engineering from New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, NJ, USA and Master of Engineering in Project Management from University of Calgary, Calgary, Canada. He is a certified Project Manager from Project Management Institute, USA."
He's kind of an interesting guy, if he's on the level. He runs an outfit called Muslims Against Terrorism which is affiliated with the ISCC organization that he invited Robertson to for a debate.
Could be legit; could be a front; don't know.
And of course in Islam it is encouraged, especially if it is in pursuit of that greatest 'good' of all---killing Christians and Jews.
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