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Joe Biden Promises To End Traditional 401(k)-Style Retirement Savings Tax Benefits. What’s That Mean?
Forbes ^ | 8-25-20 | Elizabeth Bauer

Posted on 10/08/2020 10:38:24 AM PDT by SJackson

Round about a month ago, I took a closer look at Joe Biden’s retirement-related policy proposals, or, more specifically, those of the “Unity Task Force,” which had just released its final document.

One of the items in that document and on the Biden campaign website is a promise to “equalize the network of retirement saving tax breaks” — a proposal that generally translates to eliminating the tax advantages currently enjoyed by retirement savings accounts and replacing them with a “credit” or “match.” The idea is that the tax advantages, or “tax expenditures,” as they’re called, disproportionately accrue to relatively higher earners, and the hope of a change is to provide benefits in equal measure to all income groups.

But how this translates in practice is not clear. An article at Roll Call this morning picked up on the proposal, as did Courthouse News, but neither had more detail, referencing only a 2014 Urban Institute/Tax Policy Center proposal, which provided various hypothetical alternatives.

So what did that proposal suggest? It included a variety of options, including

Reducing total available pre-tax savings (employer and employee) from (at the time) $51,000 to only the lesser of $20,000 or 20% of pay; Expanding the currently relatively-small “Saver’s Credit” (equal to 50% of the first $2,000 in retirement savings, only for relatively lower earners, up to $$19,500 for singles, $39,000 for couples; and phasing out quickly, to 20%, 10%, and ultimately nothing for singles with $32,500/couples with $65,000 in income) to stay at 50% for higher earners and phase out in a much more gradual manner instead; or Wholly removing any tax benefit for retirement savings and provide a credit of 25% instead ...snip...

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020election; 401k; biden; clowncar; delaware; election2020; incometaxes; joebiden; joeclowncarbiden; landslide; retirement; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; trumplandslide
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1 posted on 10/08/2020 10:38:24 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Yeah, the looter class wants to get their hands on our retirements so they can stuff their own pockets with it.

The guy is nothing but a thief.


2 posted on 10/08/2020 10:40:16 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: SJackson

They’ve had their greedy eyes on our retirement savings for years.


3 posted on 10/08/2020 10:40:23 AM PDT by Mr. Rabbit
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To: SJackson

I always say this over and over - name one Democrat who’s ever had any job in the real world

just one

Just one who’s met a payroll

Just One whose even had a single employee!


4 posted on 10/08/2020 10:41:09 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv-mint you get is the Trump winning express ! Yea haw ! Trump Pence II! Save America again)
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To: SJackson

It means say good bye to your 401k.


5 posted on 10/08/2020 10:42:29 AM PDT by LIConFem (I will no longer accept the things I cannot change. it's time to change the things I cannot acceptI)
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To: SJackson

The only thing good about 401k’s is the matching funds from your employer.


6 posted on 10/08/2020 10:42:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: SJackson

He is being spoon-fed policies by his handlers!

Watch this video and see the real Joe Biden - he makes no sense whatsoever!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnafho4KMiQ&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=frankmarchant


7 posted on 10/08/2020 10:43:52 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers)
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To: Mr. Rabbit

They floated the first balloon during the Clinton Administration.


8 posted on 10/08/2020 10:44:16 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: SJackson
November 4th, 50 million American cash out their 401Ks and take a one-time tax hit for 2020.

Market staggers and collapses as Joe Biden claims victory.

9 posted on 10/08/2020 10:44:48 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: SJackson

In Argentina, 2008, the government seized everybody’s 401K plans and spent the money...................

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122460155879054331


10 posted on 10/08/2020 10:45:12 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: SJackson

Must confiscate them as well, Joe.

We know you want to.


11 posted on 10/08/2020 10:45:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Elections have consequences. We won, you lost. Get over it." --Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Mr. Rabbit

Yep. They cleaned out SS and now want the trillions sitting in 401ks.


12 posted on 10/08/2020 10:45:43 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Gals)
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To: Psalm 73

I am a year and half from being able to start getting my money out and this has occurred to me more than once.


13 posted on 10/08/2020 10:45:59 AM PDT by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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To: SJackson

If the people vote this guy in, they will get exactly what
they deserve.

Sadly, all those who didn’t vote for him will get exactly
what they didn’t deserve.


14 posted on 10/08/2020 10:47:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you're neverTrump at this point, drop the charade, you're just never United States.)
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To: DownInFlames

Not just the 401Ks, there’s lots of money in Roths.


15 posted on 10/08/2020 10:47:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: SJackson

I think that might be a “red line” for a lot of people.


16 posted on 10/08/2020 10:47:48 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: DownInFlames

Another part of the nightmare that is hiding in the weeds if these horrible people get elected. Today the carbon tax also seeped out. MSM is keeping a lid on all of it and all of the half informed people who think that nice man in the Biden ads is real.


17 posted on 10/08/2020 10:48:08 AM PDT by iamgalt
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To: SJackson

As is typical, the process proposed by Biden and the dems is way too complicated for the average person to follow.

As I read it, the nuts and bolts is this: Your deferred compounding of investment in the 401k will be taxed. This means if you are going to be taxed at 15% upon withdrawl, that net tax rate will be significantly higher over the life of your investment.

The 401(k) is the ONLY way that middle class working families will be able to put enough away to have a decent retirement. Now, you will have to work longer to put away the same amount, and due to the lessened real compounding, if you are middle aged...you will NEVER grow at the rate high enough to hit your target.

I guess you can sign up for one of the 7.1 million new age tech jobs to work at night.


18 posted on 10/08/2020 10:48:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: cuban leaf

and the tax deferral


19 posted on 10/08/2020 10:49:20 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: SJackson

If Republicans brought up the danger to 401ks if the Democrats get control they will easily win the WH, House and come close to 60 in the Senate.

A few “Kiss your 401Ks good bye” commercials like the Throw Grandma off the Cliff SS commercials the Dems did would do it.

But for some reason they won’t, just like they will never bring up how Kamala git her start or all the kids Joe inappropriately touched.

I guess it’s more important to be gentlemanly and get invited to the Bloomberg cocktail parties then try and win and save the country.


20 posted on 10/08/2020 10:49:34 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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