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Trump is dead wrong about birthright citizenship
The New York Post ^ | October 30, 2018 | Seth Lipsky

Posted on 10/31/2018 3:22:57 PM PDT by TBP

President Trump is making a blunder with his vow to end birthright citizenship. He’d compound the error were he to try to snuff out this constitutional beacon with a mere executive order.

I say that not out of hostility to the president. On the contrary, I endorsed him (and voted for him) and agree with most of his major policies, including enforcing our immigration laws.

Yet it’s hard to see the logic of curbing legal citizens, which is what ending birthright citizenship would be doing. Our long-term economic problem could yet be lack of enough people.

Trump’s vow to end birthright citizenship — and to do so by executive order — was made in an interview with the online publication Axios. It is due to be broadcast on Sunday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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This morning's New York Post devoted an entire op-ed page to two articles taking opposite tacks on ending birthright citizenship. This is the article opposing the president and supporting birthright citizenship. I will post the opposing one in a few minutes, if I don't get waylaid by trick or treaters.
1 posted on 10/31/2018 3:22:57 PM PDT by TBP
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“...Dead Wrong....”?

Sounds like a threat.

Lock him up.


2 posted on 10/31/2018 3:25:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: TBP

I think Seth has been drinking his bath water.


3 posted on 10/31/2018 3:25:39 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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Seems like he’s trying to muddle what Trump said.


4 posted on 10/31/2018 3:26:18 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: TBP

Let’s find out.


5 posted on 10/31/2018 3:26:38 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: TBP

>>>Yet it’s hard to see the logic of curbing legal citizens, which is what ending birthright citizenship would be doing<<<

Trying to explain Logic with an Illogical Premise.

Spock would not be amused.


6 posted on 10/31/2018 3:27:17 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: TBP

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Insanity!

The 14th amendment already has prohibited birthright citizenship.

Why is Trump suddenly losing his courage?

All he has to do is enforce what is already law.
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7 posted on 10/31/2018 3:28:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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..gawd I am sick of people writing ignoramous type articles like this

“this constitutional beacon”???? automatic anchor baby citizenship?

he’s gotta be kidding!

the authors of the 14th amendment worked very carefully to protect against any such thing! there is NOTHING in the constitution that requires such automatic citizenship for “anchor babies” further, the language and history of the clause are crystal clear that citizenship for babies born in USA of foreign citizens or subjects.... are NOT NOT NOT included

these writers just keep repeating their ignorant, false assertions ..over and over again... instead of checking the law and history first


8 posted on 10/31/2018 3:29:14 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE)
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"Our long-term economic problem could yet be lack of enough people."

Another sky is falling scaremonger.

9 posted on 10/31/2018 3:29:19 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (mongrel at large)
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To: TBP

We’re not talking about legal citizens...


10 posted on 10/31/2018 3:30:00 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Ben Hecks

If you are a LEGAL immigrant and you have a child yes it is an American, If you are ILLEGAL you and your child are illegal!


11 posted on 10/31/2018 3:30:25 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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“...Dead Wrong....”?

Now where have I heard this before? If they keep repeating that well worn out refrain long enough they may just one day in the far distant future just might be right. But I kind of doubt it. Personally I thought it was a stroke of political chess playing genius on how to get the issue before the USSC in a fast tracking manner while at the same time rubbing it all in the face of Congress for their failure or refusal to do the job themselves.

12 posted on 10/31/2018 3:30:51 PM PDT by Ron H. (Gab.ai is totally and completely Free Speech based.)
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To: Paladin2

I think that what PDJT is doing two things by bringing this issue to a boil.

He knows it will be challenged in the courts and is expecting that. He also knows it is a popular position.

The two things:
1. He is forcing an issue that needs to be clarified onto the front burner.

2. He is providing a litmus test issue for Republicans on the campaign trail.

This is both, in many people’s mind good for the country and good for Republicans in close races.


13 posted on 10/31/2018 3:30:59 PM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Ben Hecks
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>> “I think Seth has been drinking his bath Toilet water.”
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14 posted on 10/31/2018 3:31:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Maybe Seth should read Anns latest column....

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2018-10-31.html#read_more


15 posted on 10/31/2018 3:31:58 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (“A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes.”)
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...and just like that...
...everybody was talking about birthright citizenship...


16 posted on 10/31/2018 3:32:56 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: TBP

Seth Lipsky could be more wrong if he was intentionally trying to be wrong.


17 posted on 10/31/2018 3:33:13 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

“and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”

Makes one wonder, that if just anyone born inside the United States was a citizen automatically, why that phrase was inserted.

Or, why did it take 100 years for the real meaning to be ferreted out.

Similar to the “shall not be infringed” mystery phrase in the 2nd Amendment.


18 posted on 10/31/2018 3:33:15 PM PDT by odawg
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To: Fai Mao

He is also now tossing it into the laps of where it should be decided: The do-nothing but preen Congress. FORCE them to do their damned jobs, for a change. Trump wins, yet again.


19 posted on 10/31/2018 3:34:13 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2020)
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So sad this author does not know the difference between legal / illegal. So sad


20 posted on 10/31/2018 3:34:21 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream media ...)
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