Posted on 04/21/2016 4:28:44 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Trump strategist Roger Stone tells NJ 101.5 radio that even if Donald Trump wins a majority of pledged delegates to the Republican convention, Cruz will utilize "Trojan horse" delegates (who are bound to vote for Trump only on the first RNC nomination ballot) to vote on "procedural" matters in the Rules Committee or Credentials committee to block or disallow certain votes.
ROGER STONE: Unfortunately just because Donald Trump gets the 1,237 [delegates needed to win], doesn't mean we aren't going to have a brokered convention. My sources, who are pretty good in the Republican Party, indicate to me that Ted Cruz intends to work a "rules strategy" to try to euchre this nomination away from Donald Trump.
In kind of a shady, using political trickery and so on, utilizing these Trojan Delegates we have been talking about -- Where Trump delegates, from the results of the primary -- those seats are filled with non-Trump voters, non-Trump supporters who will vote against Trump on procedural issues in either rules or credentials that could be used to take away his majority.
(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...
I’ve heard rumors for over two weeks from two other states.
It would require Cruz to pull the SoS final results and sort by affiliation. To toss those votes would be in violation of the individual state party laws. Some of those laws are contradictory to the national party rules. We’ll see.
Like I said, Trump's sleazy thug henchmen Stone is a good enough reason to oppose Trump.
Such Marxist like behavior is more suited for the Hillary party. No doubt Hillary is pulling both (trump and Stone's) their puppet strings.
From what authority do you speak?... You need to catch up....It’s already on the table.
You are not on the RNC rules committee or you would not be here right now since they are having breakfast.
Ted & Jeff Roe will be trying to convince the committee to try this stunt. It is part of their agenda for both today and tomorrow. Along with the power-point presentation on their path to victory which they presented yesterday.
The uniparty does not care if the R wing or the D wing of the uniparty wins. They are fine with the globalist Hillary and they are fine with the globalist Cruz. Only Trump scares the globalist uniparty and they will do anything to prevent Trump from becoming President of the USA. Cruz is their point man and Cruz will go scorched earth if that is what he is told to do.
Does anybody remember that?
If you don't, just keep in mind democrats are masters of vote fraud.
First of all I dont consider Roger Stone a reliable source on what day of the week it s let alone the opposing campaign Having said that, and I am no Trump fan, if Trump has 1237 delegates headed into Cleveland he should win on the first ballot without controversy and those of us who cant stand him will have to decide how big a clothespin it will take yo hold our nose on election day
This story and those latching onto it remind me of a guy I used to work with that insisted GWB was looking for a way to remain in office even after the end of his last term. Why, I needed to WAKE UP and open my eyes. He even had websites for me to go so I can learn something. It was typical GWB....lol
Even those of us who do not back Trump’s rise to the nomination will fight for his right to run if he gets the 1237 and someone tries to deny him the nomination
See post 66. ;)
And the head of the CO republican party was caught in a long term affair and accused the CO AG and party members of blackmail back in July. And Tom Tancredo is how involved....
Colorado is a mess.
He is a fabulous at starting rumors. I just get a feeling the even being in the room with him would make me feel like I needed a shower. He just oozzzzzzes dirt, filth and slime.
Do you receive his twitter posts? I do. They’re a lot different than they used to be. He’s pounding the “Cruz can’t get to 1237 meme,” as he should ‘cause it’s good politickin’ but he’s also hitting Hillary hard and often. Other than that he’s talking about where he’ll be, thanking the people he just left, etc. Very presidential.
His Twitter has completely changed, and I think the change dates to Manafort coming on. Trump is showing he can take good advice and learn from his mistakes.
Its not an unreasonable assumption that Conservatives still supporting Cruz can be persuaded to support Trump with not much more then information that shows his positions without the filters and spin. With Trump its not trust or moral issues for the most part that are the problem.
On the other hand, Cruz is seen by many conservatives as dishonest, power hungry and pushing hidden anti-American agendas under a lawyer’s skill of manipulation. That’s not fixable when hes seen as one of the ones we have been fighting while the Brash Outsider is seen as being mostly right with some warts but there is no doubt he loves America and wants to help Americans.
Based on the above, the odds are good we can come back together under Trump but not under a contested convention.
Roger stone is a sociopathic liar.
That is primarily what the trump campaign is about.
If they have, then why is Trump still whining
I suppose that's why Trump wants the GOPe to give him the nomination without winning a majority of the delegates.
I don’t do Twitter, but I believe you.
I was reading an article on here the other day about one state where the Cruz organization was getting their people out to the conventions where the actual delegates were selected. They were raising challenges to any delegate that was a Trump supporter, getting them disqualified and replaced by Cruz supporters.
I don't doubt for a minute that Cruz will implement any and every unethical tactic and procedure he can get away with to thwart the will of the voters.
And if he's successful, the Cruz supporters will blame his loss in the fall on the Trump supporters who stayed home as some sort of act of revenge. Not all of the Trump suporters will of course. There are plenty of people who would still vote for pond scum if it had an R behind it's name. But enough will stay home in the swing states that Cruz will lose.
This smells and needs to get out to the public for what it is.
That’s reassuring to know:
Even those of us who do not back Trumps rise to the nomination will fight for his right to run if he gets the 1237 and someone tries to deny him the nomination. And the reverse should be our reaction if any other republican was bring defrauded.
And keep remembering that republican scheming is only child’s play when you face the entire cheating machine of the DNC Clinton cabal.
Learn the process. We are NOT a democracy, we are a republic, and the Republicans model their nomination process after the republic process, election of representatives.
Lincoln won on the 3rd, almost 4th, ballot by the way...
Presidential Ballot | |||||
Nominee | Home State | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 3rd "corrected" |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
William H. Seward | New York | 173.5 | 184.5 | 180 | 111.5 |
Abraham Lincoln | Illinois | 102 | 181 | 231.5 | 349 |
Simon Cameron | Pennsylvania | 50.5 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Salmon P. Chase | Ohio | 49 | 42.5 | 24.5 | 2 |
Edward Bates | Missouri | 48 | 35 | 22 | 0 |
William L. Dayton | New Jersey | 14 | 10 | 1 | 1 |
John McLean | Ohio | 12 | 8 | 5 | 0.5 |
Jacob Collamer | Vermont | 10 | 0 | - | - |
Benjamin F. Wade | Ohio | 3 | 0 | - | - |
John M. Read | Pennsylvania | 1 | 0 | - | - |
Charles Sumner | Massachusetts | 1 | 0 | - | - |
John C. Fremont | California | 1 | 0 | - | - |
Cassius M. Clay | Kentucky | - | 2 | 1 | 1 |
Maybe even all 57.
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