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To: 4rcane
Did Lincoln "steal" the election in 1860?
How about Eisenhower in 1952? Was that "theft"???

Learn the process. We are NOT a democracy, we are a republic, and the Republicans model their nomination process after the republic process, election of representatives.

Lincoln won on the 3rd, almost 4th, ballot by the way...

Presidential Ballot
Nominee Home State 1st 2nd 3rd 3rd "corrected"
William H. Seward New York 173.5 184.5 180 111.5
Abraham Lincoln Illinois 102 181 231.5 349
Simon Cameron Pennsylvania 50.5 2 0 0
Salmon P. Chase Ohio 49 42.5 24.5 2
Edward Bates Missouri 48 35 22 0
William L. Dayton New Jersey 14 10 1 1
John McLean Ohio 12 8 5 0.5
Jacob Collamer Vermont 10 0 - -
Benjamin F. Wade Ohio 3 0 - -
John M. Read Pennsylvania 1 0 - -
Charles Sumner Massachusetts 1 0 - -
John C. Fremont California 1 0 - -
Cassius M. Clay Kentucky - 2 1 1

79 posted on 04/21/2016 6:17:42 AM PDT by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: plewis1250

Bad analogy with 1860. They didn’t even have primaries or caucuses until the 1900s and even then, it wasn’t until the modern era that they played a major role.

Apples and Oranges.

However, Cruz would love the old system of nominating presidential candidates - when reg’lar folk didn’t have a say and decisions were made in smoky back rooms.


85 posted on 04/21/2016 6:32:36 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: plewis1250

I knew you’ll try to use the republic excuse. If only that was true. We don’t have representatives that represent the people though. That’s like a dictator claiming they’re a republic because representatives that were never elected picked him


89 posted on 04/21/2016 6:40:27 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: plewis1250
We are NOT a democracy, we are a republic...

Wrong, dumb@ss. We're a democratic republic.

We have a representative government, NOT A REPRESENTATIVE VOTE.

130 posted on 04/21/2016 8:05:32 AM PDT by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: plewis1250

1860.

Who voted? I would say we have a starkly different electorate now and different expectations of transparency.

Even more so than 1952.

No amount of rationalization would normalize such a result by today’s standards. None.

Good Luck GOP; aka The Stupid Party


156 posted on 04/21/2016 11:50:18 AM PDT by GeaugaRepublican (Ted Cruz is the Jr. Senator from Canada.)
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