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Grading the South Carolina Debate: Trump, Carson, Rubio, Cruz, Kasich, Bush
Opinion ^ | 14 Feb 16 | Xzins

Posted on 02/14/2016 4:36:44 AM PST by xzins

1. Trump, A+ -- Fought like a champion. Finally, someone with the guts to call out our nation for being 15 years at war, still killing our sons and daughters so politicians can put a feather in their cap, and most of them calling for more war. Bush wants BWIII, Bush War III

2. Carson, A-, quietly but effectively said that he was in it for the people, that he'd been asked to run, and that he wasn't there for any other reason. Outstanding.

3. Rubio, B+, Say what you like, but Rubio wiped the floor with Cruz on the immigration question. The April 2015 video shows Cruz supporting 'talking about what to do with immigrants after the wall is built.' It shows him calling for massive increases in H1B visas.

4. Cruz, C, Clearly the most knowledgeable about the supreme court vacancy. He needs to stop misrepresenting others' positions. Trump called him out on the Planned Parenthood question. Trump has clearly called for defunding PP if they keep doing abortions. If they voluntarily stop doing abortions, then he would support their doing breast exams and pap smears and the like.

5. Kasich, C, Did a Mr. Rogers in the neighborhood act. Hillary Clinton will eat his lunch.

6. Bush, F-, This man is totally lacking in insight. He actually called for another war in the middle east AND he wants to fund Al Qaeda in Syria. He's simply not up to the task.


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To: mac_truck

Bush was responsible.

It was on his watch.

He’d been president already for 9 months...almost a year.

MOREOVER:

Bush PUSHED illegal immigration amnesty...don’t you remember?

He was in charge WHEN those 9/11 pilots were overstaying visas and getting training on the Saudi dime at OUR flight schools.

So, if Americans want to say it falls on his list, then I’m okay with that.


141 posted on 02/14/2016 6:15:45 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: beandog

Would you go there right now and walk down a street in broad daylight?

Would you have done so during Bush’s presidency at ANY point in time?

Would you have recommended, if you were commander, that your troops could just go out in the villages for R&R?


142 posted on 02/14/2016 6:17:20 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
Thank you for your service and your family's. Whatever disagreements I have with Trump, they are not mainly in foreign policy. To me, the question of whether Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction" was not primarily relevant.

I didn't want to go in the first time (Kuwait NEVER accepted an offer of alliance, and they weren't any better than Iraq). I did think we had the option to go in after Iraq broke the terms of peace, but it turned into nation-building, and that at best costs money and lives, and is likely to fall apart as soon as you stop spending money and lives. It also had NOTHING to do with 9/11. And don't get me started on Kosovo.

Cruz would not be an interventionist or a nation builder. Neither would Trump. Neither has the stench of Realpolitik that emanates from Rubio and John Ellis Bush (it's in his genes).
143 posted on 02/14/2016 6:17:38 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: 11th Commandment

Yes, it is an old answer because the donor class candidates - which is everyone other than Trump - will continue to do nothing. The wall will never get built unless Trump builds it.


144 posted on 02/14/2016 6:17:51 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: driftdiver

Apparently we will disagree on this government lie.


145 posted on 02/14/2016 6:17:55 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: CottonBall

I agree its a theft, But the fact is many who paid into it their entire lives are dependent on it and earned it no matter how little the payout is. The problem is the crooks running it stole the money.

FYI I am not on any thing like entitlements state aid etc. I just do not feel its right to stick it to old folks and widows who did their fair share of work to earn something in old age.


146 posted on 02/14/2016 6:18:03 AM PST by Mechanicos
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To: Dr. Sivana

Bush the elder learned nothing from the mess the Balfour agreement caused in the 1930s.

History rhymes, unfortunately.


147 posted on 02/14/2016 6:18:57 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Dr. Sivana

I have met kuwaitis and they were to a man very thankful for our intervention


148 posted on 02/14/2016 6:19:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: TXnMA

He is old time presidential.


149 posted on 02/14/2016 6:19:24 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: xzins

‘That’s why trillion dollar budgets get passed’

Trillion dollar continuing resolution/cromnibus, etc., I think you meant. We haven’t had an actual budget since Obama took office.


150 posted on 02/14/2016 6:20:58 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: xzins

“I think that the position that Bush lied is acceptable.”

I am no fan of the Bush family, I opposed Bush on this forum when most thought he was a God (similar to the view many now have of trump). That said, to believe Bush would have in a calculated way lied to the American public just so he could go to war is plain batshit crazy.

What would GW gain by such a lie? A lie he would have known would kill thousands of Americans and cost trillions of dollars? Sorry, that would make the Bushes Hitlerian in their level of evil and I don’t think even you believe that.

Inept, yes, but the Bushes calculatedly murdering their fellow citizens? That’s X-Files paranoia.


151 posted on 02/14/2016 6:21:39 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (wrote Harry Reid.s only biography www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Oh yeah politicians never lie..... (sarcasm off)


152 posted on 02/14/2016 6:22:42 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: NOVACPA

We were certainly lied to, but entitlement to me is the haughty belief that the world owes them something for nothing and I will never agree that people who have worked and paid into SS for 50+ years are gimmedats. You have every right to disagree. BTW my husband and I still work long after 66.


153 posted on 02/14/2016 6:23:11 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Fantasywriter

Thanks, FW. You are correct, and I appreciate the help.


154 posted on 02/14/2016 6:23:58 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Ted Cruz - and his PACs which he controls - have turned out to be the worst liars and most weaselly campaigners of all those running. When you combine that with his professorial mannerisms and his piety platform it is down right unworldly in its negativism.


155 posted on 02/14/2016 6:24:23 AM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: odawg

So don’t vote for him.


156 posted on 02/14/2016 6:27:21 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: DaxtonBrown
Did Bush calculate going into Iraq?

What calculation would have caused him to look for an excuse to fudge the facts about WMDs?

In late-April 1993, the United States learned that terrorists had attempted to assassinate Bush during his visit to Kuwait. The Kuwaiti authorities arrested 17 persons suspected in the plot to kill Bush using explosives hidden in a Toyota Landcruiser. The Kuwaitis recovered the Landcruiser, which contained between 80 and 90 kilograms of plastic explosives connected to a detonator ( the Bush device or Bush explosive device ). The Kuwaitis also recovered ten cube-shaped plastic explosive devices with detonators (the cube-bombs ) from the Landcruiser. Some of the suspects reportedly confessed that the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS ) was behind the assassination attempt.

On April 29, 1993, CIA bomb technicians compared the Bush explosive device to two known Iraqi explosive devices found in different Middle-Eastern countries in 1990 and 1991 (the Middle-East devices ) . The technicians reported that the remote control firing mechanism in the Bush device was identical to those in the Middle-East devices.

Additionally, the technicians reported that blasting caps from the Bush device appeared to be identical to those found in one of the Middle-East devices. The technicians later concluded that the circuit board from the Bush device also closely resembled circuit boards from the Middle-East devices.

In early-May 1993, the FBI sent personnel to Kuwait to interview the suspects and examine the physical evidence. FBI Special Agents, along with representatives of the Secret Service and State Department, interviewed 16 suspects, some more than once. Two of the suspects, Wali 'Abd Al-Hadi 'Abd Al-Hasan Al-Ghazali ( Al-Ghazali ) and Ra'd 'Abd Al-Amir 'Abbud Al-Asadi ( Al-Asadi ), admitted during the FBI interviews that they had participated in the plot at the direction of the IIS. - See more at: http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1000#sthash.ARBzvRmS.dpuf


157 posted on 02/14/2016 6:29:13 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins
Had to give your comment some thought before I reply. The Carson grade threw me off initially. That said, I agree with you completely, assuming you are talking about ‘debate’ performance only. . Trump was amazing especially considering the very hostile audience and the fact the other candidates are in the do or die period of their campaigns. No one in recent time has stood up to EVERYONE like Trump has. Carson did great and chose to stay away from the mud slinging. Cruz, with the help of Rubio and Trump, showed what a slime he is. Rubio did better than the last debate, but he too was shown to be the liar and manipulator he is. We all saw that Bush is in way over his head. He gets the prize for being the dumbest Bush in the family. Kasich is and will continue to be irrelevant.

It will be interesting to see if the strategy to use the over the top hostile hand picked audience will backfire.

Also, I think battle line have been drawn so deep because of the RNC/GOP’s hell bent determination to pick our nominee that the democrat candidate will have a edge in the general election, just because of the number of Republican voters who will stay home.

158 posted on 02/14/2016 6:32:56 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: Psalm 73

I am not a big Trump fan, and I think he is a loose cannon; but he does not support PP as long as it does abortions. He said he would support funding PP if it stopped performing abortions.

I don’t think we should fund PP at all, but to imply that Trump is a champion of abortionists is just flat-out wrong.


159 posted on 02/14/2016 6:34:14 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

If Trump’s making that case, then it’s a serious, serious point in his favour.


He is making that case, and it is a huge point in his favor.


160 posted on 02/14/2016 6:34:41 AM PST by JustaCowgirl
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