Posted on 02/07/2016 12:12:24 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
Donald Trump still has a commanding lead in New Hampshire two days ahead of the primary, according to a new Monmouth University poll released Sunday, but there's a four-way race for second place.
Trump commands 30 percent support from likely Republican primary voters in New Hampshire, the poll found. John Kasich, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz were virtually tied for second place, with 14 percent support for Kasich, 13 percent each for Rubio and Bush and 12 percent for Cruz.
Other candidates were far behind. Chris Christie had 6 percent support, Carly Fiorina had 5 percent and Ben Carson had 4 percent.
On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders led Hillary Clinton by 10 points, with 52 percent support for Sanders and 42 percent for Clinton. The margin of error for both parties was plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.
The results on the GOP side were broadly in line with averages of recent polling in New Hampshire, with Bush and Kasich doing a little better they perform in the averages and Rubio doing a little worse. Bush was at 9 percent in the RealClearPolitics polling average and in the FiveThirtyEight weighted polling average. Kasich was at 12 percent in both averages, and Rubio was at 16 percent.
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Half of us Conservatives disagree with the Trum-Cruz populist position on immigration. We are Christians and Jews who take the Scripture literally and seriously. We are capitalists who believe: Let-the-free-market-decide.
My major criticism of Rubio (and others in the gang of 8) is they say nothing about welfare to immigrants. No immigrant, illegal, legal or naturalized should receive welfare (EITC, TANF, EBT, Sec8, etc.) And of course, murderers, rapists, DUI drivers are not part of capitalism.
We should not create another underclass here in the US. But there is a big difference between the welfare parasites, such as alleged refugees and people who do honest work and take care of their families.
Another mistake of the gang of 8, and Dubya and everyone in the establishment is their love of COMPREHENSIVE bills.
Now, the political reality is we need to focus on the real problems first. Felons, DUI drivers and those on welfare are something we should agree on and deport them first. They are the cheap ones to deport. They already have contact with the government. Nobody has to go knocking on the doors of strangers to deport them.
The winning elections reality is that historically Republicans and conservatives have been against welfare and criminals and for those who do honest work, historically described in terms of citizens, not those on welfare. But to win elections, we need to retain that image of being for people who do honest work.
There’s no such thing as an illegal alien who does honest work. Every dollar they take out of the free market is being stolen from some American citizen who should have that job.
I should know. I have a small business in the building trades, and have had to compete with these invaders for almost two decades now.
My wife and I have calculated that they’ve stolen at least a million dollars off our family’s table in the last ten years alone. As a consequence, we’ve lived a much reduced standard of living than we should have, over that time.
We’ve had to lower our prices by nearly 50% since 2006, just to stay competitive enough to stay alive. Have you taken a 50% pay cut over the last ten years? I have, so spare me the bleeding heart political spin about these heathen thieves.
When I want a contractor to fix my house, free enterprise says I have the freedom to do business with whomever I want.
The government comes in and says they have to be licensed. The union comes in and says they have to be union.
Those are modifications of free enterprise which makes it less free.
The same way if you tell me whom I can and cannot do business with.
Many times I’ve posted on FR (and elsewhere) my experience where a hail storm damaged 100% of roofs and 50% of siding in a subdivision of 10,000 homes in Chicago’s suburbs. Insurance companies paid big money, no questions asked, no inspection.
Contractors signed up homeowners and looked for workers. They advertised in the paper, on TV and radio. They went to unemployment offices, government jobs agencies. The only requirements were show up for work sober, not high or hungover and ability to climb a ladder to a suburban split-level with a gentle slope. They were willing and actively searching for ex-cons and others with no experience if able to climb a ladder.
They could not find a single natural born citizen willing to work. They hired immigrants, illegal, legal and naturalized. Mostly illegal Poles/Ukranians who entered on Tourist visas did the siding. Mexicans did the roofs.
Many of them went on to start their own construction companies and in turn hire people themselves.
I’ve seen the same thing in IT where a big IT shop tries to staff up big projects and just can’t do it with citizens. I’ve contacted many former co-workers on unemployment comp and encouraged them to take the six figure IT jobs they were qualified and paid as well as the ones they previously had when we worked side-by-side. Their stories included:
My wife is working. When my comp runs out I’ll get a job and my wife will collect unemployment (a Rush fan).
I took a class in a different technology but have no experience in it. I will only take a job in that different technology and only for a higher pay than the six figures I was making at the former place with the technology in which I have much experience and for which there is big demand. Its not my fault there are no jobs in the technology I just adopted.
I’ll second that.
Quit trying to justify these foreigners taking jobs away from American citizens.
You want to know why no one could get natural born Americans to roof those houses? It’s because the illegals infesting the workforce had already driven down the pay in the area so badly that no American could afford to work for those slave wages.
That’s how it really works out here. The same thing has happened in multiple industries that traditionally paid well for high quality, professional labor - done by AMERICANS!
The Cheap Labor Express is breaking the back of our country, so quit spinning for them!
Exactly. If you expect to clean the table, you will lose.
His head comes out at a forward angle from his spine like a turtle.
Maybe he was a partier? Oh, he was a partier. Just ask his best friend from the bad old days, Gary Condit. When everything got rough for Condit, Kasich disappeared from DC faster than donuts on Gov Christies desk.
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Here we go!
A perfect repeat of Iowa.
Will they never tire of the scam?
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Forever 12 years old.
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Rubio is a fake, across the board.
He knows what the answer should be, and will promise anything, but never follow through.
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You are for amnesty?
Why?
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A compromise is always a loss, morally, and strategically.
The destroyers always get at least half of what they want out of a compromise, and come back for the other half on the next vote by asking for four times what they want.
Unless we have the moral strength to refuse to compromise with destruction, they always win.
That is exactly how we got into this mess.
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>> “If a candidate is willing to surrender on the one issue of existential importance to our nation’s very survival, he should be shunned forevermore by all his countrymen.
There can be no compromise - not even an inch of wiggle room, on the subject of illegal immigration.” <<
I agree 100%
We are in trouble because of compromise.
The only candidate that isn’t at least 50% compromise on an important issue is Cruz.
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Trump Scores!! Feel this is going to be a very, very good week for Donald this week. Go TRUMP! We want to help MAKE AMERICA GREAT, AGAIN!!
I acknowledge your viewpoint on that, but I don't agree that Ted will do the best job on immigration among the current candidates.
In my mind, Donald Trump holds that edge.
That said, they both have excellent immigration plans, and I feel that both men are real patriots who love America, and will do their best to improve our sorry fortunes, in whatever capacity they find themselves next year.
Take a young unemployed excon who can’t read or write, but is in good health. How much is he worth?
Take my unemployed young healthy ex-room-mate. Never committed a crime. Read the Bible every day, Great personality, stayed out late with girlfriends every night, couldn’t get up to go work work.
These are just two of many examples of people who rejected construction that started at 15/hr for the illegals. Some of those illegals quickly got raises. In 2 years they were making 25/hr. Then they started their own companies.
As my ex-room-mate told me: I dont do spic work.
You are grossly mis-informed if you dont realize the upward mobility of immigrants. Yes, food service workers do start low. But they dont see it as starting low. It is twice what they were making in the old country. And look how many of them now own their own restaurant.
Dont get me wrong. Problems exist.
Amnesty exists right now and you dont hear anyone making an issue of it. Illegals come here. They marry or get a anchor child or find an H1b sponsor. After they get here, they get in line to get legal. Yes, most people patiently waiting in line are already here illegally. What a fiction.
When an illegal marries a citizen and gets legal there is no penalty. It is total amnesty. Total amnesty is currently being used by millions of illegals and former illegals. I’m not talking Reagan’s amnesty. I’m talking current amnesty.
But all those Trump supporters act as if it doesn’t yet exist.
The mis-information of the anti-illegals is only exceeded by the ignorance of the white liberal pro-illegals.
I’ve owned my business for 18 years, and have employed a lot of people in that time. Every single one of them was an American citizen and they all made good to great wages. Not once, was I ever forced to resort to hiring illegals because I couldn’t find a qualified, eager American to fill the slot.
But times have changed. It’s now much harder for me to find qualified, eager Americans because illegals in the workforce have driven the average wages for labor down to a point where Americans who play by the rules can not afford to work those jobs.
You appear to be advocating for the illegals by blaming your fellow Americans for being too lazy to do the work. Nothing could be further from the truth. Construction once paid so well, that American men fought over those jobs. My family’s been in the building trades for nearly a century, so I know what I’m talking about.
There are plenty of Americans who would be more than happy to dedicate themselves to a career in the industry if wages were once again attractive. In addition, a lot of American men would go on to start their own businesses in the trades, if they could see a good future in it for them and their families.
Unfortunately, the illegal foreign invasion has stolen that all away from the rightful owners.
When Trump says he is a good negotiator, he is saying he is a compromiser. Whether compromise is good or bad depends on how good of a negotiator you are.
McConnell is not the worst negotiator. The honor goes to Trent Lott and Bob Dole. The 3 stooges are an embarrassment. Why do the other Senators choose such stupid leaders? I don’t know.
Reagan and Democrat Speaker Tip O’Neil made the Grand Compromise and I dont hear FReepers complaining. Tip O’Neil agreed Reagan could spend big money to win the Cold War and Reagan could cut and flatten taxes. Reagan agreed that Tip could spend money domestically like a drunken...uh...like a drunken congressman.
The result was that tax cuts caused a massive increase in government revenue. Yet the massive increase in revenue could not keep up with the increase in spending.
That was compromise. Now, what could our side get if we were smart next time?
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