Posted on 01/23/2016 8:47:03 AM PST by ironman
Let me be clear - I am pro-life. I support that position with exceptions allowed for rape, incest or the life of the mother being at risk. I did not always hold this position, but I had a significant personal experience that brought the precious gift of life into perspective for me. My story is well documented, so I will not retell it here. However, what I will do with the remaining space is express my feelings about life, and the culture of life, as we just marked the 43rd anniversary of Roe v. Wade.
I build things. There is a process involved in building things.......The rules for putting structures together are as strict as are the rules of physics. These rules have stood the test of time and have become the path to putting together structures that endure and are beautiful. America, when it is at its best, follows a set of rules that have worked since our Founding. One of those rules is that we, as Americans, revere life and have done so since our Founders made it the first, and most important, of our "unalienable" rights.
Over time, our culture of life in this country has started sliding toward a culture of death. Perhaps the most significant piece of evidence to support this assertion is that since Roe v. Wade was decided by the Supreme Count 43 years ago, over 50 million Americans never had the chance to enjoy the opportunities offered by this country. They never had the chance to become doctors, musicians, farmers, teachers, husbands, fathers, sons or daughters. They never had the chance to enrich the culture of this nation or to bring their skills, lives, loves or passions into the fabric of this country. They are missing, and they are missed.
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Did you read “Art of the Deal”, or any of his books?
There aren't any other health reasons that I know about, but those are two and I do know some women who went through both scenarios. Yes, some of them did die.
That's why all the "partial" solutions to abortion have to be done at once: education on the sancity of life and the sanctity of sex; rebuilding a marriage culture; direct assistance to women facing untimely or difficult pregnancies; empowering pregnant people as a class (e.g. colleges and universities should offer supportive services for pregnant and parenting students, faculty, and staff), state regulations and restrictions on abortion, e.g. the licensing of clinics with stringently enforced safety and anti-fraud standards; informed consent; parental notification; spousal notification; county and even township restrictions such as zoning, medical waste (dead baby) disposal restrictions; refusal to fund abortion training in state-funded medical schools, or as a part of a medical residency; upholding of the conscience rights of people who refuse to participate in any way, including doctors, nurses, even administrative staff; refusal on the part of hospitals to give abortionists admitting privileges, etc. etc.
All done at once. And more, much more. Because they all have feedback effects on each other, and on the culture at large.
I'll stick with the truth: God will bring all iniquity to an end. In the interim, His merciful forbearance amazes me.
Jeremiah 17:9
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
No. I go by what I hear coming out of the guy’s mouth, in the debates (I’ve seen all of them), in interviews, and at his rallies. That tells me plenty about what he believes and thinks. And I find Trump to be fairly obnoxious, shallow, substanceless, lacking depth of knowledge, unable to articulate conservative principles, arrogant, boorish, off-putting, unqualified, and an embarrassment.
I knew a young married woman, years back, who was raped in a parking garage by an assailant of a different race, and subsequently found herself pregnant. Su-Jayne and her husband struggled over what to do, but as it happens they were pacifists and didn't believe in killing in general for any reason. So they did a whole lot of praying, talked to their parents and closest friends and spiritual advisors, and decided to just "live and let live" and then probably make an adoption plan for the baby.
Well, lo and behold, when she gave birth, they discovered that the baby was not the product of the rape. It was a white baby: in fact, it was Su-Jayne and (husband) Jeff's baby.
She had evidently, and unbeknownst to her, been in the very early stages of pregnancy from her husband at the time of the rape.
They were shocked and surprised--- understatment! They kept the baby, because it was indubitably theirs. Very grateful for the way it turned out!
Su-Jayne told me she really thinks she and Jeff would have kept their little girl anyway, even if she were biracial and the "product" of the assault; but this was like a sign from Almighty God to them, saying "Your baby? His baby? Whose baby? First of all, it's MY baby."
Any one of the partial solutions sounds like trying to prop up one floor of the WTC. I agree about the feedback but I'm not optimistic. All indications are that it's all coming down.
I think if we all went back in our family trees far enough, 10,000 generations, we would find direct ancestors (or ancestresses) who were conceived via the wrong, wrong man via slavery or abduction or drunken adultery or simple assault or wartime rape or something equally distressing. If that direct forefather or foremother had been aborted, nobody else in your family line between them and you, would have existed, including you.
In other words, every one of us is probably alive today because of some great-great-great grandmama who was sorely tempted to kill her baby for very compelling reasons, and yet didn't.
Every one of us!
One thing's for sure: either our society must rebuild a Culture of Life, or we will be replaced by another society that will.
So what are his negatives?
Very well said and true.
I respect your opinion but you make an all-over-the-place, weak argument...
You want to engage with any of it to show where it’s weak? Or do you just want to flick it away without further comment?
Donald Trump was pro-choice at one point. So was Ronald Reagan. In fact Ronald Reagan as Governor of California signed law that allowed hundreds of thousands of abortions - The Therapeutic Abortion Act of 1967.
Reagan became pro-life 12 years later and President. This discussion is ridiculous.
“Btw, Trump has been up in arms against Common Core and has said that we should dump the Education Dept. Says education is important and should be local.
Also says we should cut the EPA.”
I am not aware of Trump’s position on Common Core & the Dept. of Ed. - IF true that is a Major Plus for all Americans.
My fear is Trump’s past - Reagan had a History, Cruz has a History - Trump too has a history.
Bottom line I trust Cruz - At this time I do not trust Trump to be a Limited G’ment type. Should Trump get elected and is indeed the Limited G’ment type - That would indeed be a major plus for America and the world
[What law would you make and enforce?]
Defunding Planned Parenthood would be a starter.
[She didnât ask to become pregnant.]
Where are the rights of the baby? The baby didn’t ask to be conceived either.
Amen
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