Posted on 12/24/2015 7:07:28 AM PST by dangus
Donald Trump has an excuse for funding Hillary Clinton's election to the U.S. Senate from New York: That's how crony socialism is done. You pay off elected officials to become their crony, then you get special consideration for your real estate deals. Please FReepers, explain to me how this isn't precisely what we are trying to STOP in Washington? Do you know what I don't hear coming from Trump? "I'm going to put an end to such games." Rather, it seems like he is proud of how he has played the game, considers it is how he rose to the top, and in his generous self-appraisal, figures that anything that helped him make more of his billions must be good.
He also favors socialized medicine. Not just a mandated level of services (Obamacare), but the government paying for universal, single-payer health care. This isn't an opinion from 2000. This is from his current campaign:
Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–â€
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: –the government’s gonna pay for it.
Trump isn't a conservative. He's a narcissist who can't help telling the crowds what he thinks they want to hear. And so what we get in the Republican debates is an unelectable charicature of conservatism. One moment he's for keeping all Muslims out; the next he's only for keeping Islamofascists out. Well, duh. One moment, he's against the invasion of America by millions of communist Chinese and socialist Mexicans, the next, he's endorsing touchback amnesty.
Wait... you didn't know Trump favors granting citizenship to just about any red Chinese or Mexican who asks for it? "We have a lot of good people, they’ve been here and they've done a good job. It’s a tough situation and in some cases they haven’t been good people, and there have been some problems. The good ones we’ll expedite."
That's right... he's going to expedite illegal aliens already in the United States so that they can come right back into the United States.
Building a wall and then expediting illegal aliens in a touchback amnesty might help solve the security risks of uncontrolled illegal aliens, but how exactly are we going to simultaneously "expedite" them and screen them for terrorist connections? More than that, the fear that there might be terrorists among illegal aliens is one of the relatively minor issues I have with illegal aliens. I don't want my country invaded by Red Chinese and Mexican Reconquistadoras, driving down wages and consuming far more government services that they pay for.
But then we come to the issue that will make Donald Trump utterly, totally, completely unelectable. Unlike most socialists, Trump believes that American middle-class wages are too high. He has said this at almost every debate, and no rival or moderator has called him out on it. But with the Republicans already having a tough sell with Romney's legendary 47% who live off the government, can Republicans tell the vast majority of the remainder of Americans, "Oh, by the way, we'd be happy if you had way less money?"
Please, people, don't be like that Democrat socialite who couldn't believe Nixon won because she didn't know anyone who voted Republican. Trump is getting 96% of the coverage of Republican candidates, so he is who everyone is talking about. But don't confuse the volume of attention with electability. In a head-to-head poll matchup, Trump loses to Bernie Sanders in a landslide.
I've always thought the mainstream Republicans were fools to refuse to stand up for conservative values in the hope of winning an election. It's not just about watering down your beliefs to win over the middle; it's about giving people in the middle reason to think you'll do something about the conservative concerns they do have, and giving the base a reason to come out to vote. But is nominating someone who makes 58% of Americans think he is just an obnoxious blowhard the solution?
Please, if you think I'm an idiot, don't just tell me I'm an idiot. Tell me where you think I'm wrong. Tell me why you don't believe Trump won't pass a touchback amnesty into law, or won't institute socialized medicine. Show me data to say how he has a prayer of winning. I really do want a reason to believe that we're not about piss away our best chance at electing a conservative president since Ronald Reagan.
The Leftist media is going to try every trick in the book, to induce an ongoing battle to embitter the supporters of Cruz & Trump against each other.
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Correct. And Dangus is their useful idiot as he inflates the rhetoric against Trump and as he intends to divide conservatives against each other.
Madness!
Bttt
I don’t think so. Worse than Obama?????????
Look if he wins he is a probably a one term President at most. So I just don’t think that is my choice is between Hillary and Trump, Trump can or would be worse than Hillary.
Thank you for the welcome.
If Trump wins the nomination, and if he backstabs WE THE PEOPLE he will be turfed, we can all count on that!
Also I am really tired of the running slap fight between Cruz and Trump supporters. We are all on the same side. We can disagree, but do so with respect, and always keep an eye out on the REAL enemy - The Marxist threat.
Bumping to steal that at a moments notice.
We had to do some pretty ugly things to shake off the crown in the 1700's.
Uglier things, still, to destroy Nazism and Imperial Japan.
The key is collecting the rat poison, and not putting out new poison, when you are done destroying the vermin. We've done it a few times in our history.
Thank you for this post, Laz. You nailed it.
Merry Christmas bump
Hell, I despise Trump and can still appreciate what Trump has brought to this election season....which is about all JimRob has ever said...that and saying like many on this thread that they like both trump and Cruz. Even on his most vociferous supportings of trump, he posts Go Cruz also.
You're correct. Your response was an epic failure, which can only be expected from a political neophyte like yourself.
Try again.
Don’t know whether it has been mentioned in this long and growing thread, but the divisiveness of Trump should also be considered. Obama is the most divisive President of my lifetime (born during Truman’s last year). That is a major factor in the damage he has caused. Trump would make Obama look like the great uniter by comparison. Is that what the country needs to make it great again?
That is the kind of response I expect you to receive, or that you’re an impediment to progress, that Trump is the “best” candidate, elitists vs. populists, etc. That Trump’s name is in the headline with a possibly negative connotation is about all that is needed for frothing to begin.
I myself am left wondering what has happened to the purported conservatism that made FR such a bastion of principles and values...that so many have abandoned conservatism in favor of “just win baby” is more than a tad disturbing, it’s almost depressing.
Trump’s positions on a couple of items disturb me, can’t say I won’t vote for him, but he’s not my preferred...so, I’ll just stay out of the way and let the Trump threads run their course. There doesn’t appear to be much room on FR for polite discourse any longer. I’d rather not be drawn into the pen, if you know what I mean.
Wishing you and yours a joyous and Merry Christmas.
Well said.
Even if Trump turns out to be the biggest liar and con man since, well since Obama; he has done more to advance conservatism in the last 6 months than anyone else in the last 20 years.
For that alone - he deserves our support.
150 posts before the Newt Gingrich lifestyle hammer
His kids all look pretty damn cool to me and his ex wives defend him
Which I can promise means something positive
Newsflash ....ambitious men frequently chase women same as the do power and riches
Life’s bounty
No question he’s responsible for his family and worshipped his daddy
But yes he’s a rough around the edges rich Ivy League sort
Part of his appeal frankly
Speaks his mind and doesn’t back down
Excellent.
C. Edmund Wright is his real name!
The old hands at Free Republic learned long ago that if you use your real name, and you're effective, the Left will come for you.
So, you're not effective. They tolerate you, much like they tolerate ol' four-eyes George Will and his little bowtie.
Pathetic.
Newt Gingrich deserved the hammer and so does trump. Violating that trust speaks to a lack of moral compass. Doing it twice is beyond despicable.
And, respectfully, WD, your justifying it is disappointing and disheartening. Is nothing in pursuit of the Trump sacred? Are there no principles that we are unwilling to compromise?
I heard something similar before...in CA of all places...about a well known actor. He was “electable”, the conservative candidate, Tom McClintock wasn’t.
Yeah, it worked out well. /s
Trump isn’t a true conservative like Ted Cruz, but he is a patriot fighting for America. He’s also the only one who can go toe to toe with the MSM, The Dems, and the GOPe and beat them at their own game.
Without Trump in the race Cruz would have been a sitting duck for their attacks, Trump is finally giving cover so Conservatives can have a voice. So I won’t bash Donald Trump, instead I will praise him and thank him, as I would thank ANYONE who does battle with the Marxists who want to destroy the West.
Well, Laz A. Mataz is my real name.
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