Posted on 01/16/2014 9:01:52 PM PST by Fractal Trader
Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago, according to new research.
U.S. scientists said that part of the genetic overlap observed between some modern dogs and wolves is the result of interbreeding after dog domestication and not a direct line of descent from one group of wolves. They believe their research reflects a more complicated history than the popular story that early farmers adopted a few docile, friendly wolves that later became our modern canine companions.
Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago but modern canines are more closely related to each other than to wolves, according to new research
Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago but modern canines are more closely related to each other than to wolves, according to new research Instead, the earliest dogs may have first lived among hunter-gatherer societies and adapted to agricultural life later, according to the study which is published in the journal PLoS Genetics.
Researchers from the University of Chicago said that dogs are more closely related to each other than to wolves, regardless of geographic origin as they do not descend from a single line of wolves.
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Amazing LOOK at the Hips and legs on the early 1900 GSD and the ones in later years. Totally different!
Words have meanings and grammar enables words to convey the author’s intended meaning. This seems lost on our thumb typing text-o-matic generation. Thank you for the discussion.
That made me LOL.
hee hee... a little cheer for this icy cold morning, to warm you up! :-)
This thread has gone to the dogs.
Sooooooooo:
If you lay down with dogs, you wake up with flees.
And, if you lay down with wolves, you wake up...
Without your vital organs...
With the cousins of flees...
With a strong desire to eat your dog, cat and hamster.
I know.
Vanity and fashion are the ruin of many a great breed.
Don’t tell this to my wolf dog. He’ll talk your ear off telling you different, especially if he thinks it means he has to be a pet and not the master.
The Canary Islands are named for Canines, not canaries.
I’m relieved to learn that. I like dogs; I don’t like wolves.
This may help you answer those questions.
And how was the date arrived at?
It's not clear from the article (perhaps an investigation with the original journal article is in order) but one might assume it's from the same genetic study that showed the linkages or perhaps from anthropological knowledge of the relationships of the breeds of dogs used in the study to man in the local regions. Or perhaps a combination of both disciplines. It's a good question though; the answer to that should have been reported, IMO.
And lastly but not exclusively, has anyone done the math on canine reproductive rates? We would be overun with canines by now, as well as everything else on earth.
That same objection has been raised with any animal species that has a moderately fast reproductive rate, but it discounts the fact that all species don't live in a static bubble (or flask of media, like bacteria in a lab).
There are numerous factors that limit the reproductive spread of higher organisms such as: (in no particular order) predation, disease, natural disaster, limited resources and simple old age. For a species to propagate and dominate the environment via logarithmic growth as you seem to propose, and eventually take over the planet, none of the preceding factors could be present. (Especially limited resources)
“... which means these dogs must have come from another planet. ALIENS!”
You are correct. They came after the cats had arrived ... just a small incident in their eternal war.
Total nonsense!
They are shepherd dogs merely refined from a bunch of nebulous shepherd mutts.
Please let’s stop this myth that GS are wolves. My God, Mals and Siberians look more like wolves but hardly ever anyone accuses them of being wolf hybrids.
There is zero truth to any of that wolf breeding program garbage. Please stop spreading falsehoods!
Wolf/coyote hybrids are becoming a problem with the reintroduction of wolves.
WTF are you on my case for? I asked a question and commented on a reply to it. I didn’t spread squat.
I dunno one way or the other but your assertion is as lacking in facts as any here.
There’s actually a Wiki article that claims that which explains why it’s not reliable “history”.
This is short but concise.
http://www.nsgsdc.com/breedhistory.shtml
NORM!!!!
;)
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