Posted on 10/19/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head
Folks, is it possible that the gruesome murder of our Ambassador in Benghazi was acutally the beginnings of an October surprize gone horribly awry?
I believe that somehow, because of all the unanswered questions there...because of the unbelievably chaotic and rushed manner in which the Obama administration tried to cover it up...and continued to cover it up well past all rational thinking would indicate that they were doing ss...and because of just common sense questions, questions like:
Tragically, there very well could have been people in our own government who knew about all of this.
Could it be that an "October Surprize" is what was really "supposed" to happen in Benghazi after the kidnapping. We would have seen an outraged Obama, stoked up and rightously indignant over this, on National TV claiming it would not be tolerated and that we would secure the release of Stevens. He would maybe even have "suspended his campaign to deal with it...for all Americans to see.
Then October would have been full of "that" story, and you can bet it would invariably lead to a Stevens release just before the election.
But because a couple of US Navy SEALS happened to be there contracted out on another unrelated State Department matter, and because a couple of other personnel (possibly CIA personnel) put up one hell of a fight against overwhelming odds...holding them off for 6 hours...that the terrorist plan (and potentially the entire "surprize") went bad.
The attackers got mad when many of their own were killed and wounded and they ended up killing Stevens and the SEALS and the other fellow that got seperated from the main group (who escaped...and whom alll should be carefully questioned regarding what they saw and heard) when they caught them.
Thus what was supposed to be a great “moment” for Obama in an arranged “tough” negotiation to “save” Ambassador Stevens (who himself would have had no clue about any of this and would never have gone along with it), turned into a gruesome murder instead.
Precisely because this was so horrible for America. Precisely because these questions remain unanswered. Presicely because 12 operations centers saw this in real time and no help was attempted. Presicely because of the umitigated lies, deceptions, and now cover-up of this administration. This entire affair should actually be absolutely front page news in the whole country until it is resolved, campaigns or not.
We have American blood on the ground and we potentially have those amongst us who at the very least are covering it up for political purposes because it does not fit their narrative...or who, at the worst may have helped to arrange it in an effort to create a new political narrative just before the election.
An American Lament in 2012
http://www.jeffhead.com/lament.htm
Obama’s False Narratives
http://www.jeffhead.com/falsenarrative.htm
The Coming Turnaround in 2012
http://www.jeffhead.com/turnaround2012.htm
The bottom of this is the Obama/Jarrett/Axelrod triumvirate. There can be no other explanation. Hillary will get even!(Woman now scorned again)The prison in Illinois that Obama pushed thru will become a suitable retirement venue for the whole choom gang.
Everybody keeps looking at this from the American side. Look at it from al-qaeda’s side. The tough thing about plans is that the enemy doesn’t have to follow your plan.
That is honestly the only thing that makes any sense!
The obvious denial of the requested increase in security is the tell. What else makes sense?
The pain you feel today is the strength you'll have tomorrow.
The delay in calling this an Act of Terror by Obama,...leaves a ton of questions as to WHY>>>>?
McClatchy: Obama admin changed story on Benghazi to blame video 3 days after attack
obama, Biden and Hillary should be impeached and tried for teason. Of course, the GOP are too whimpy to do it. They’re hoping the voters will remove them.
Look closely at all the images, his arm is always in the same position. Due to rigor mortis imo.
I agree.
I saw this picture the first day it was released and said something about that arm on Freerepublic that day, and not thinking him dead in that picture because of the muscle use. I did not realize they were talking about the same picture.
the arm is in the same position in both images...maybe I am seeing what I want to see because at least if he's already dead when he was found, he might have escaped the horrific death Gaddafi suffered.
So before your picture with an arm raised, there is another with the arm is down and looks like he is starting to raise it or use it, so not rigor.
My Comment on that picture on Sept. 12:
No, there is a photo before these where they are carrying him one by his arm and another person under his arm. His muscles are flexing in his arms in this picture and there is no blood on either side of his head. Because of the muscles in his arms flexing I was wondering if he was still alive at this point. One arm is being stretched by a person pulling on that arm so can be explained away but the other arm is also flexing and can not be explained that way.
The later photos show him dead, either being carried over someone's shoulder or laying down and there is blood and a gash on the head. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2929841/posts
Post 70
Here is another from that same thread on Sept.12 post 38
Could it be that they live in an artificial world of Hollywood-supplied "experiences", where such plans actually do come off?
Liberals expect to be able to control all manner of things which are in no man's power, because they live insulated lives. Such illusions don't long survive contact with reality, which is why so many libs are found in occupations which shelter them from it (government, academia). A good stint of "cutting it" in the "real world" has a way of making one conservative, and not coincidentally unwilling to take such risks when so many factors are not controllable.
Besides which, liberals seem disposed to "use" people as means to a "greater" end, much like a farmer uses his livestock. After all, to them, we ARE animals, not beings created in God's image.
Thanks for the ping, Ernest.
The Marxist would look WEAKER than Carter trying to pull an October surprise hostage taking and trade.
Sheeesh.
This was all about his political career. His Middle East policies are unconscionable failures.
Left-wingers in charge and they have no idea about Islamic terrorism. Muslims are nice. Outreach is all it takes in their fantasy world. The Marxist has a lofty opinion of himself that his own sorry self doesn’t deserve.
He’s a flown blown sociopath. He is blameless. Others failed.
Four dead Americans are bumps in the road or not optimal. He only fears and dreads the political fall out, hence the cover-up.
Plausible lies for Monday’s debate are being concocted at Camp David as I’m typing right now.
How would I be able to find that? If you want to use images to make comparisons or or make a point, why don't you show it?
So far, from what I can see, it seems he died lying face down, shielding his head with his arm. Rigor motis commences within a few hours, it's progressive. The entire body doesn't stiffen all at once.
We will probably never agree. You want to be convinced he was tortured while still alive etc...and I prefer to see a man who is deceased in all images we have seen so far. I believe he died from smoke inhalation. Whatever they did, they did to a dead man.
After Brett Baer’s excellent documentary tonight on Fox abot “Death and Deceit ion Benghazi” we know a lot more details about the attack itslf.
I have updated my own site to agree. Here’s the story:
Late that September 11th evening in Benghazi the attackers rushed into the compound and the communications specialist saw it, yelling, “Attack, attack, attack,” into the microphone and activating the security alert system which turned the videos over to satellites so the other command centers could see it in real time. At no time on the videos, or according to the live reports from the communications building, or later testimony, was there any “demonstration,” or “spontaneous protest” that somehow turned into an attck. This was a dedicated and well coordinated attack from the beginning. At the time, when scores of attackers streamed onto the consulate grounds, there were only seven Americans at the consulate. Four security officers, one communications specialist, the Ambassador and one state department specialist.
A brave security officer in the main consulate building ushered the Ambassador and a State Department specialist into the safe room which was protected by thick concrete walls, a very massive, steel security gate, and a bending hallway back to a room where the three could “hunker down.” The attackers could not get into the safe room, so they burned the building with diesel fuel. The four other personnel could not get to the Ambassador in the main building because there were sinmply too many attackers and they were hold up themselves in two other buildings, now themselves armed with automatic weapons, kevlar vests and full battle gear. The one security officer with the ambassador pried one of the barred windows open enough to get out so they could escape the deadly smoke. When he went out, the Ambassador and other State Department individual did not follow. He went back in to try and find them but could not and was driven out by the thick smoke. He tried again, but could not locate them again. Later, after joining up with them, he and the other four individuals were reinforced by a few more Americans and some Libyan personnel from the American “Annex” building a mile away. At that point, many of the attackers had left. The Americans went back to the main building to try and find the Ambassador but only found the body of the other State Department officer. At that point they came under heavy attack agaain and they had to retreat, under fire, in an armored vehicle back to the Annex.
At the Annex the two Navy SEALS were working with eight other Americans and eighteen Libyan security personnel to defend it. It soon came under very heavy and sustained attack by mortars, grenades and automatic weapons fire from a large group. During this attack the two SEALS were killed and the original security officer who had been with the Ambassador was wounded severely. Later, a small reinforcement group arrived at the airport from Benghazi and they came to the Annex and altogether they were able to hold off that attack Afterwards, they decided that even larger and more sustained attacks were possible at any time and so the determined to abandon Benghazi and they all left for the airport.
In the mean time other Libyans, who had entered the consulate grounds and the main building supposedly found the body of the Ambassador. Ultimately he was taken to the Benghazi hospital where doctors tried to revive him to no avail. On the way out, his body was picked up and the entire group, and with all four bodies, they flew back to Tripoli.
Bookmarked.
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