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Famous Cave Paintings Might Not Be From Humans
NPR.org ^ | June 15, 2012 | Christopher Joyce

Posted on 06/15/2012 8:47:02 AM PDT by dead

The famous paintings on the walls of caves in Europe mark the beginning of figurative art and a great leap forward for human culture.

But now a novel method of determining the age of some of those cave paintings questions their provenance. Not that they're fakes — only that it might not have been modern humans who made them.

The first European cave paintings are thought to have been made over 30,000 years ago. Most depict animals and hunters. Some of the eeriest are stencils of human hands, apparently made by blowing a spray of pigment over a hand held up to a wall.

But now scientists are suggesting those aren't human hands, at least in some caves in Spain.

Alistair Pike, an archaeologist at the University of Bristol in England who used a novel technique to get new dates for some of those paintings, says they're older than people thought, and they may just predate the arrival of humans in Europe.

"What we are saying is that we must entertain the possibility that these paintings were made by Neanderthals," Pike says. Those were humans' closest relatives, but they are not our species.

Pike says some of these paintings in Spain are at least 40,800 years old. At that time, Neanderthals had been running around Europe for 200,000 or 300,000 years. Modern humans had just arrived from Africa.

Pike concedes that maybe modern humans arrived in Europe with palette and pigment in hand, ready to paint up the town.

But the paintings could be even older. Pike's technique dates the age of the calcium carbonate that naturally forms in layers on top of the paintings. It's kind of like nature's shellac. Obviously the paintings had to be made before the first layer formed.

Archaeologist Joao Zilhao from the University of Barcelona is part of the team that did the work. He says his gut tells him it's Neanderthal art.

"We can't be 100 percent certain that they did it," Zilhao says. "I think that there is a strong probability. My point is the evidence for symbolic behavior among the Neanderthals already exists."

Neanderthals did perform ritual burials. They made decorative beads and other ornaments. Pike also notes that DNA evidence now suggests that modern humans and Neanderthals interbred.

"Why should it be surprising that Neanderthals produced art?" Pike says.

It does surprise archaeologists like Pat Shipman, who has spent a lifetime studying symbolic behavior. She wonders why Neanderthals waited until about the time humans arrived to get the itch to paint.

"OK, Neanderthals had been there for 300,000 years, and they're not doing this," Shipman says. "If they are not doing it before, why would they suddenly start doing it at that point?"

Ancient Neanderthals challenge us to think about our role as the sole humans on Earth today. A decorative shell ornament attributed to Neanderthals. Study: Neanderthals Wore Jewelry And Makeup

The discovery suggests that early relatives of humans were capable of symbolic thinking.

Shipman notes long before humans made the trek from Africa to Europe, they had been making all sorts of symbolic artifacts — ocher hash marks on stone or symmetrical marks on ostrich eggs.

"I find it easiest to assume that people who are already doing that moved into more figurative representations than thinking that an entirely other species of people suddenly came up with making figurative art," Shipman says.

The research appears in the journal Science. Pike says he needs to find paintings a few thousand years old than he has so far to make his case for Neanderthal art. He and his Spanish colleagues are headed back to find it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caveart; cavedrawings; cavepainting; cavepaintings; godsgravesglyphs; macroetymology; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; palaeolithic; paleolithic; paleosigns
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To: allmendream

Missed your mea culpa, never knew Elvis covered it.


41 posted on 06/15/2012 9:53:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dead

The handprint on the lower right has from 5 to 7 fingers.

They live amongst us.

42 posted on 06/15/2012 9:55:58 AM PDT by kidd
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To: N. Theknow
So where did they get the can of spray paint from to make those?
That's the bigger question :^)
43 posted on 06/15/2012 10:00:51 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Aren’t Neanderthals supposed to have huge knuckles from dragging them?


44 posted on 06/15/2012 10:05:50 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: The Cajun
So where did they get the can of spray paint from to make those?

Cave-Mart

45 posted on 06/15/2012 10:06:59 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: dead
Neanderthals you say? Explains a lot...


46 posted on 06/15/2012 10:15:05 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Another Far Side -

Cows sitting in chairs while the phone is ringing:
“There that thing goes again, and here we sit without opposable thumbs.”


47 posted on 06/15/2012 10:20:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: dead

The paintings might not be from humans? Democrats painted them, maybe.


48 posted on 06/15/2012 10:31:13 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Bayard

People keep posting these pics of this guy. What show is are they from?


49 posted on 06/15/2012 10:34:47 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Bayard

Does that guy in the photo not own a comb?


50 posted on 06/15/2012 10:54:28 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: ckilmer

And through out the world....I would merely suggest that as usual this is an effort to make the obvious facts of rock art fit someone’s theory. It must be time for additional research dollars


51 posted on 06/15/2012 10:56:15 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: MrB

exactly


52 posted on 06/15/2012 10:58:29 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: dead

Where did they get the spray paint?


53 posted on 06/15/2012 11:02:59 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Getsmart64

Ancient Aliens on the History Channel or History Channel 2.0


54 posted on 06/15/2012 11:05:14 AM PDT by superfries
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To: MrB
So... spray paint was invented 30,000 years ago,

Guess I should read all the posts before I open my big tra...errrr fingers. :^)

55 posted on 06/15/2012 11:05:59 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Aren’t Neanderthals supposed to have huge knuckles from dragging them?

Nooooo...your thinking of Dhimmicrat union thugs...

56 posted on 06/15/2012 11:06:18 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: LottieDah
At least they didn't look like this...


57 posted on 06/15/2012 11:08:41 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

but they lived long(ago)and prospered?


58 posted on 06/15/2012 11:09:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vinnie
Where did they get the spray paint?

they got a 21 years of age, or older, Neanderthal to buy it for them.

59 posted on 06/15/2012 11:11:56 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: dead
Just more work for this guy. Photobucket
60 posted on 06/15/2012 11:15:27 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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