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Scientists Back Off of Ardi Claims (Evos give climate-hoaxers a run for their money...LOL!)
ICR News ^ | December 4, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 12/04/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

In May 2009, a remarkably well-preserved extinct primate, nicknamed “Ida,” was hailed as one of the most important fossil finds ever. It had features that some interpreted as a link between two primate body forms. At the time, ICR News suggested that its evolutionary significance was far overblown, predicting that the scientific consensus would offer retractions. Those retractions came three months later, confirming that the fossil―called Darwinius―was really just an extinct lemur variety...

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To: tnlibertarian

Way to avoid my direct question. And why are you pretending to be unaware of the fact that Jim’s reply was to inform everyone that Creation/ID posts belong “front and center” in the News/Activism section on FR?


401 posted on 12/04/2009 1:08:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: pby
in accordance with the scriptures;"

Which scriptures?

402 posted on 12/04/2009 1:08:30 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creation/ID posts belong “front and center”

Are you saying that the 'it' in JR's post is the ID?

"but I’ll be damned if they’re gonna ban Him or it from FR!”

403 posted on 12/04/2009 1:11:24 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater
Also see Post 379 which responded to this same question when you had asked it previously:

Which scriptures?

The Scriptures (the Hebrew Bible had been long established by the time this letter was written to the Corinthians)....When the Apostle Paul wrote this to the church at Corinth, his audience knew exactly what he meant and what was being referred to. Old Testaments prophets, like Isaiah and the psalmists, foretold of Christ's death on the cross as a payment for sin (Isaiah 53) and also foretold of His resurrection (Psalm 2).

Luke makes this clear in Acts 13 when it is stated:

26"Brothers, children of Abraham, and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent. 27The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath.

28Though they found no proper ground for a death sentence, they asked Pilate to have him executed. 29When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the tree and laid him in a tomb. 30But God raised him from the dead, 31and for many days he was seen by those who had traveled with him from Galilee to Jerusalem. They are now his witnesses to our people. 32"We tell you the good news: What God promised our fathers 33he has fulfilled for us, their children, by raising up Jesus. As it is written in the second Psalm: " 'You are my Son; today I have become your Father.[b]'[c] 34The fact that God raised him from the dead, never to decay, is stated in these words: " 'I will give you the holy and sure blessings promised to David.'[d]

35So it is stated elsewhere: " 'You will not let your Holy One see decay.'[e] 36"For when David had served God's purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his fathers and his body decayed. 37But the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay. 38"Therefore, my brothers, I want you to know that through Jesus the forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you. 39Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses. 40Take care that what the prophets have said does not happen to you: 41" 'Look, you scoffers, wonder and perish, for I am going to do something in your days that you would never believe, even if someone told you.'[f]"

Christ's resurrection is central to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to the Christian faith.

404 posted on 12/04/2009 1:14:31 PM PST by pby
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To: GodGunsGuts
And why are you pretending to be unaware of the fact that Jim’s reply was to inform everyone that Creation/ID posts belong “front and center” in the News/Activism section on FR?

Interesting. Since the ID movement eliminates God and substitutes the ID, it would seem that JR would be totally against ID posts getting 'front and center'. After all, the Bible says to worship no other Gods but the ID movement is doing just that.

405 posted on 12/04/2009 1:15:13 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GodGunsGuts

You’ve won me over, my prophet!! Glory, glory I’ve seen the light!! You can divine intent from two sentences. You must know all!! Man and dinosaurs living together!! Just a few hundred years ago!! Bronto-burgers found in freezers!! Mmm-mmm good!!


406 posted on 12/04/2009 1:16:20 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: pby

“But God raised him from the dead, and for many days he was seen by those who had traveled with him from Galilee to Jerusalem.”

Where does it say 3 days?


407 posted on 12/04/2009 1:16:59 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: tnlibertarian
Seek the truth and yee shall find it.


408 posted on 12/04/2009 1:19:24 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: goodusername

Hence my post of #5 which stated the article was a deliberate LIE, and a misdirection.

— typical of grimygophergonads.


409 posted on 12/04/2009 1:19:54 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: metmom; tnlibertarian; GodGunsGuts; Alamo-Girl; Quix; CottShop; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; ..
Nobody is forcing them to read these threads and GGG is not pinging them to them. They find them on their own and it's a feeding frenzy from there.

You describe the "evolutionist" (read: atheist) M.O. very, very well indeed, dear metmom!

As far as I can tell, a whole lot of these people don't even care about science. They're in the game for Christian-bashing-purposes only.

One is left wondering why they devote so much energy to this purpose. It seems so pointless to me....

Thank you so much for the ping!

410 posted on 12/04/2009 1:22:32 PM PST by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: ColdWater

Yee-haw!! Ride ‘em dinoboy!!


411 posted on 12/04/2009 1:26:40 PM PST by tnlibertarian
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To: ColdWater

“That is your problem. If the story of Jonah in the whale is not true, your lose all your faith and cannot worship the Bible anymore.”

I won’t qualify your over-reaching, asinine statement with a response except to describe my heart-felt feelings on the matter... let me make it visual for you. “GG shakes his head, rolls his eyes and mutters the word, “Idiot” then goes about his day”.

And yes, that was a personal attack. Report me.


412 posted on 12/04/2009 1:27:58 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
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To: betty boop
They're in the game for Christian-bashing-purposes only

The YEC crowd has stated that they will stop at nothing till they get everyone to believe the earth is 6000 years old. It is that type of attack that has to be headed off. The YECers are not being attacked. They are the attackers.

413 posted on 12/04/2009 1:28:58 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: tnlibertarian

Fred & Wilma will be along shortly...


414 posted on 12/04/2009 1:30:16 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: betty boop

“One is left wondering why they devote so much energy to this purpose. It seems so pointless to me.... “

We have our religion, they have theirs. They want to save us from an eternity doomed to live in Heaven worshipping our Creator, God while we walk on streets of Gold... it’s all too obvious!


415 posted on 12/04/2009 1:30:30 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
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To: ColdWater; betty boop

Ooo.... Let me be the first....

Link please.


416 posted on 12/04/2009 1:31:40 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ColdWater
Wasn't/Isn't the ID movement used as a "wedge" to promote the idea that due to the observeable complexity of even the simplest forms of life, the simplest cells, simple cell structure, DNA, information theory and etc., it is evidenced that there is an intelligent designer and not just a natural process?

Like, when one looks at a sculpture one can realize the existence of the sculptor. At that point of realization, you may not know the sculptor's identity, but you know that one exists.

I thought that ID was a middle point moving folks away from the dogma of the philosophy of a godless naturalistic evolution, not a stopping point. Once folks realize that the evidence points to an ID, then the identity of the ID can be sought.

I don't think that the ID movement replaces the God of the Bible with the god named "ID".

417 posted on 12/04/2009 1:32:27 PM PST by pby
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To: Gordon Greene
let me make it visual for you

Tell me you really believe that story ...


418 posted on 12/04/2009 1:32:55 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: pby
I don't think that the ID movement replaces the God of the Bible with the god named "ID".

Really? The ID movement says that the ID has pushed along the evolution of man. Not God, but the ID!

419 posted on 12/04/2009 1:35:20 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

Goodnight, Gracie.


420 posted on 12/04/2009 1:35:25 PM PST by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - I have a theory about how Darwin evolved... more soon.)
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