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Creationists are ‘liars’?
CMI ^ | Tas Walker, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/19/2009 3:13:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Creationists are ‘liars' (?): Geologist Donald Prothero doesn’t like the fact that we don’t agree with his ideas on evolution.

I love the attitude some evolutionists have toward professional, scientific debate. Because creationist scientists do not agree with their biased, subjective and unsubstantiated ideas they spit the dummy and call us liars.

The latest tirade from geologist Donald Prothero is in an opinion piece in NewScientist entitled ‘Evolution: What missing link?’1 I like that title.

His article was picked up by the Telegraph newspaper in the UK which reported, ‘Creationists “peddle lies about the fossil record”.’2

Lies? Are creationists really lying?

No!

It’s just that Prothero does not like the fact that we don’t agree with his ideas. It upsets him so much that he describes creationists in this way: ...

(Excerpt) Read more at creation.com ...


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To: Tax-chick
Then he’s a twit.

Only if he really said it. Now, if he didn't..........

21 posted on 11/19/2009 4:10:27 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

If he didn’t ... then I should be more alert to the possibility of distortions or false reporting by the media - all media - which one can forget about when it’s dinnertime.


22 posted on 11/19/2009 4:14:32 PM PST by Tax-chick (Buy me a "Land Shark" and take me to Anguilla.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Projection. or reprojecaduction..


23 posted on 11/19/2009 4:16:03 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creationists are ‘liars'

Yep. case in point. The member of the Dover School who made a solemn deposition that he had no idea where the money to buy the cdesign proponentist book Pandas Thumb came from.
When it was discovered that it came from his personal cheque account, his excuse was that he misspoke because he was hepped up on goofballs.

You may choose to believe him

24 posted on 11/19/2009 4:17:27 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: Tax-chick
If he didn’t ... then I should be more alert to the possibility of distortions or false reporting by the media - all media - which one can forget about when it’s dinnertime.

FWIW, a "find" on the article returns 0 results for that phrase.

25 posted on 11/19/2009 4:17:46 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: allmendream

I have always thought that ones eternity in Hell was predicated on the rejection of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, not a belief or disbelief in evolution. If other errors in belief are acceptable as something that would condemn one to Hell … wouldn’t a belief in Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny also qualify? Just ask’n


26 posted on 11/19/2009 4:20:21 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: allmendream

I have always thought that ones eternity in Hell was predicated on the rejection of Jesus Christ as the Son of God, not a belief or disbelief in evolution. If other errors in belief are acceptable as something that would condemn one to Hell … wouldn’t a belief in Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny also qualify? Just ask’n


27 posted on 11/19/2009 4:21:07 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: Oztrich Boy; AndrewC

Let’s suppose for a moment that an individual Creationist or an IDer did lie, should that invalidate the argument from Creation/ID? If so, does this same standard apply to evolution with respect to all the liars and frauds that have plagued the evo-camp all these years?


28 posted on 11/19/2009 4:24:26 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Tax-chick

That’s fine and its very common among scientists to disagree on various points. Good science is not consesus science. (Why global warming science is junk BTW)

In my opinion its very interesting that creation and the big bang theory mesh so well. However the big bang theory has some big holes in it that simply can’t be explained away. I attribute those holes to God.

It just seems that every time we get to the real picky litte answers we run into the unexplainable and I think there’s a reason for that.


29 posted on 11/19/2009 4:25:11 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: tacticalogic
I expect you to be human.

Good, I expect you to know the difference between what is truth and what are lies.

30 posted on 11/19/2009 4:30:15 PM PST by celmak
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To: GodGunsGuts
Let’s suppose for a moment that an individual Creationist or an IDer did lie, should that invalidate the argument from Creation/ID? If so, does this same standard apply to evolution with respect to all the liars and frauds that have plagued the evo-camp all these years?

Aren't we being implicitly asked by the author to judge all the scientific evidence and theories on the basis of one man having unfairly accused creationists of lying?

31 posted on 11/19/2009 4:32:33 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: doc1019
Indeed. I can see it now.

“I know I left a billion data points of evidence that all pointed to a billions of years old universe and the gradual development of modern species over eons; and I know you accepted Jesus into your heart and asked for forgiveness in his name, but if ONLY you had ALSO accepted a literal interpretation of Genesis.... too bad... Hell for you.”

If there theological position wasn't so hateful and ignorant it might actually be funny.

32 posted on 11/19/2009 4:35:11 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: celmak
Good, I expect you to know the difference between what is truth and what are lies.

And I expect you to be able to rationalize anything that disagrees with your religious beliefs as being a lie. I also expect to be accused of "projection" before the end of this thread.

33 posted on 11/19/2009 4:37:17 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Admin Moderator; metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; ...

The evos are still conducting keyword attacks on Creation/ID threads after both sides were told to knock it off. We are holding up our end of the bargain, and yet the evos persist. If you look in the keyword section of this post, you will find:

“belongsinreligion” “notasciencetopic” “notscience” “propellerbeanie” “spammer”


34 posted on 11/19/2009 4:37:46 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: allmendream

I believe that God’s word never pushed the issue because it was immaterial in his overall plan for Man’s salvation. Believe in evolution if you must, or Creationism if you must … neither has much to do with ones salvation in the long run. God’s word doesn’t say that the only way to heaven is through Jesus and a belief in creationism (or evolution), just a belief in Jesus as God. (By the way, I’m a young earth creationist). ;-)


35 posted on 11/19/2009 4:39:52 PM PST by doc1019 (Obama, not so much.)
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To: job
. . . pre-imminent . . .

LOL!

36 posted on 11/19/2009 4:40:46 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Natural Law
Let's see whom should we believe in a science topic; a confabulating blowhard or tenured professor at Occidental University with a PhD in the subject from Columbia?

This is a perfect example of the oxymoron reasoning of the Evo's; they all have faith in a religion originated by a man who was not a scientist but a man who majored in theology; i.e., Darwin.

37 posted on 11/19/2009 4:41:49 PM PST by celmak
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To: tacticalogic

Actaully, that is a standard tactic among evos...and you don’t have to go any further than FR to see regularly employed. But if you do go beyond FR, you will find that the evos on FR learned this tactic from the high priests of the Temple of Darwin (such as the evo geologist mentioned in this very article).


38 posted on 11/19/2009 4:42:23 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: doc1019
. . . Santa Clause . . .

LOL!

39 posted on 11/19/2009 4:44:58 PM PST by Misterioso (The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Well, that just goes to show you they have no case.
Sorta proves they just don’t get it.
Keep on posting GGG.


40 posted on 11/19/2009 4:45:02 PM PST by svcw (The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves. GW)
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