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Creationists are ‘liars’?
CMI ^ | Tas Walker, Ph.D.

Posted on 11/19/2009 3:13:17 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

Creationists are ‘liars' (?): Geologist Donald Prothero doesn’t like the fact that we don’t agree with his ideas on evolution.

I love the attitude some evolutionists have toward professional, scientific debate. Because creationist scientists do not agree with their biased, subjective and unsubstantiated ideas they spit the dummy and call us liars.

The latest tirade from geologist Donald Prothero is in an opinion piece in NewScientist entitled ‘Evolution: What missing link?’1 I like that title.

His article was picked up by the Telegraph newspaper in the UK which reported, ‘Creationists “peddle lies about the fossil record”.’2

Lies? Are creationists really lying?

No!

It’s just that Prothero does not like the fact that we don’t agree with his ideas. It upsets him so much that he describes creationists in this way: ...

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1 posted on 11/19/2009 3:13:19 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/19/2009 3:14:55 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Did you expect they would admit to lying?


3 posted on 11/19/2009 3:16:19 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Did you expect they would admit to lying?


4 posted on 11/19/2009 3:16:25 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

By the way, it’s linkS!


5 posted on 11/19/2009 3:17:27 PM PST by Nephi ( Bush legacy: "I had to sacrifice free market principles to save the free market.")
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To: GodGunsGuts
Creationists are ‘liars’? (or are the evos projecting again?)

I guess the evolutionists will find out who is telling the truth the moment they die. By then, however, it will be too late to change their minds. Their fate will have been sealed for eternity. I don't take any pleasure in that, but that is reality.

6 posted on 11/19/2009 3:20:58 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Nephi

The evo geologist said missing “link” (singular).


7 posted on 11/19/2009 3:22:11 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Beep!


8 posted on 11/19/2009 3:23:10 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: Nephi

THis may be somewhat out of context, but I watched a show the other night called “The Evidence,” and it took a scientific look at responding to critics of Christianity. As a geologist myself, I understand the scientific view point that if you can’t watch it, observe it, quantify it, measure it, submit it to physical tests, it can’t be called scientists.

Then these folks started talking about consciousness. I asked a friend who believes in evolution, and I said, if this is all just chance, I am, by dumb luck a person instead of rock. There is no reason I should not have been a gabbro instead of a human. He seemed to agree.

And especially on the cosmological view that all matter of the universe was initially combined into a small volume, and upon the Big Bang, matter disassembled, assembled, evolved, some matter became rocks, some water, some animals, some trees.

No one knows how inanimate matter came to have life. There are a lot of so-called theories, but nothing more than “this may produce amino acids that may lead to cell building.”

But even more confounding, and not explainable by scientists, is consciousness. Science cannot explain consciousness. That is a pretty serious thing, it is the reason we even think about what we do, or study science in the first place. So, the pre-imminent reason science came to exist, human consciousness, cannot be explained by science.

It just seems paradoxical for a scientist to discard a theory based on the fact that it cannot be defined by the scientific method.


9 posted on 11/19/2009 3:29:09 PM PST by job
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To: tacticalogic
"Did you expect they would admit to lying?"

Do you expect us to believe in what does not exist?

10 posted on 11/19/2009 3:30:53 PM PST by celmak
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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m tired of people’s calling other people “liars,” when they mean, “I disagree with their opinion,” or when they mean, “I think they have their facts wrong.”

Lying requires (1) knowledge of the truth, and (2) intent to conceal the truth. Being honestly wrong about facts is not lying; having an opinion others dislike is not lying.


11 posted on 11/19/2009 3:31:07 PM PST by Tax-chick (Buy me a "Land Shark" and take me to Anguilla.)
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To: celmak
Do you expect us to believe in what does not exist?

I expect you to be human.

12 posted on 11/19/2009 3:32:54 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
You mean artists' cute watercolors and drawings are not proof of missing links?

What are you, some sort of nutcase dogmatic absolutist?

< /sarc>

13 posted on 11/19/2009 3:34:55 PM PST by Publius6961 (Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
"It’s just that Prothero does not like the fact that we don’t agree with his ideas.

Let's see whom should we believe in a science topic; a confabulating blowhard or tenured professor at Occidental University with a PhD in the subject from Columbia?

14 posted on 11/19/2009 3:37:06 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Publius6961

Gee, if it wasn’t for your /sarc tag, I might have mistaken you for a standard evo!


15 posted on 11/19/2009 3:39:27 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Tax-chick

“The creationists must be lying because they don’t believe our cladograms”, he said with a straight face.


16 posted on 11/19/2009 3:40:54 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Tax-chick

Unfortunately there are people on both sides of the argument who simply can’t bear to live with the idea that the other side exists. However I think the greatest number are those who are fine with the beliefes of the others as long as we’re free to believe what we want.

Personally I’m one of those who believes in directed evolution of mankind. (Christian evolutionist) We’re clearly different than any other creature on the planet and even very distinct from the creatures most similar to us.


17 posted on 11/19/2009 3:42:05 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Then he’s a twit.


18 posted on 11/19/2009 4:01:56 PM PST by Tax-chick (Buy me a "Land Shark" and take me to Anguilla.)
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To: cripplecreek

I’m a young-earth creationist, but I understand that people can look at the same data and come to different, reasonable conclusions.


19 posted on 11/19/2009 4:03:04 PM PST by Tax-chick (Buy me a "Land Shark" and take me to Anguilla.)
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To: Mark17
Believe in evolution = go to hell.

How about the Pope? Will his fate be sealed for eternity for saying this....

“there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution, which appears as a reality that we must see and which enriches our understanding of life and being as such.”

Pope Benedict XVI

20 posted on 11/19/2009 4:09:41 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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