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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Redbob

Because that’s when they requested it. If you requested yours tomorrow would it be sealed and notarized the day you were born, or the day you requested it? The seal and signature certify that it is a geniune copy of the real deal.


6,441 posted on 08/04/2009 5:09:59 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: autumnraine

Do bears s**t in the woods?


6,442 posted on 08/04/2009 5:10:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: snowsislander




吃驚さん 、my point is that A4 size paper seems anachronistic: I don't believe that a 1964 Australian government document, as the Bomford original purports to be, would have been printed on A4 paper. I don't think Australia adopted the use of A4 paper until the 1970s.






When the paper was scanned (File Modification Date/Time : 2007:06:05 07:15:37-04:00), it didn't cross the person's mind to change the paper size (option) when it was scanned; or it could have been the default of their LEADTECH software/installation/computer. Don't quote me on any of this, of course.
6,443 posted on 08/04/2009 5:13:05 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: gandalftb
If those are your questions you are only proving you are completely ignorant to the facts in this case.

And then you want to claim with certainty it's bogus, oy

6,444 posted on 08/04/2009 5:13:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("It's The Stimulus, Stupid Socialist")
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To: mad_as_he$$
"Try me on this. If someone is going to go to all the trouble to shop a picture with a table cloth in it why not print the document out on a VERY good color laser printer and then take a picture? WOW all the spooge is gone. I have seen analysis on other sites that think the pixelation was caused by the camera “clearing up” the area."

If I was going to release this as an opener I wouldn't give the enemy the best possible resolution as that would give 'em ALL the little quirks to work with for producing their counter-copy...but that's just me....
6,445 posted on 08/04/2009 5:15:27 PM PDT by razbinn (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,and to the republic for which it ...)
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To: Peter Horry; MHGinTN

about that ‘announcement’ - don’t forget the Frank Marshall Davis connection. He wrote for a commie paper in Hawaii for a number of years. Both papers that printed the ‘announcement’ were printed in the same print-shop. FMD, as a commie-union member, would have had access to THE PRINTERS.


6,446 posted on 08/04/2009 5:17:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: snowsislander
Ah, that makes sense.

From what I am seeing it's looking like the Aussie is a fraud and the Kenyan one is real, well the document anyway.

6,447 posted on 08/04/2009 5:19:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("It's The Stimulus, Stupid Socialist")
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To: Fred Nerks

good point


6,448 posted on 08/04/2009 5:20:00 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: autumnraine
Yeah weather wise it did. But my parents took me to all the historic places I was learning about in school. Independance Hall, Valley Forge, Gettiesburg, Boston (Old North Church, Old Ironsides) museums all over the place. Priceless education now that I think about it! To bad Obambi did not have my parents!
6,449 posted on 08/04/2009 5:20:24 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Star Traveler
McCain never did show his birth certificate to the voting public


6,450 posted on 08/04/2009 5:21:03 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: razbinn
Good point; if distraction was the motive. Someone had to know that the Bomford cert would be found. Did they hack into it, disassemble it put it back together and then repost it? I saw an interview with this Bomford guy. His story was just too refined for me to buy the “caught up in” line. Of course it could all be true or not. Until a reputable source looks at the original book (if it can be found) all is some speculation. <p. At this point just keeping the heat on seems to be working.

In any case it was well dissected in a short time - next!

6,451 posted on 08/04/2009 5:21:21 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Technical Editor
Regarding this from your Cornell docment:

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

Compare with this, from page 17 of the "U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 - Consular Affairs," hosted on the Department of State website:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf

7 FAM 1133.2-2 Original Provisions and Amendments to Section 301

(CT:CON-204; 11-01-2007) a. Section 301 as Effective on December 24, 1952: When enacted in 1952, section 301 required a U.S. citizen married to an alien to have been physically present in the United States for ten years, including five after reaching the age of fourteen, to transmit citizenship to foreign-born children. The ten-year transmission requirement remained in effect from 12:01 a.m. EDT December 24, 1952, through midnight November 13, 1986, and still is applicable to persons born during that period. As originally enacted, section 301(a)(7) stated: Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: (7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States by such citizen parent may be included in computing the physical presence requirements of this paragraph."


6,452 posted on 08/04/2009 5:21:40 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Fred Nerks

The two factors being in error in the ‘announcements’ makes them not believeable. The missing entry for the Nordyke twins and the address of another family is too much error for so simple an entry. The birth of twins had to be quite an occasion for the Islands, especially to a new doctor on the Islands.


6,453 posted on 08/04/2009 5:21:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Peter Horry

OTOH, there can’t be more than a handful of libraries that archive the Honolulu newspapers for more than 40 years. On the islands, probably the University and public library... on the mainland . . .? Can’t be more than 2 or 3...


6,454 posted on 08/04/2009 5:22:31 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Bikkuri
But how do you figure out what the upload date was.

I know if you can get into the log files you can tell, is that how it was done or do you know?

I'm just wondering if there is another way

6,455 posted on 08/04/2009 5:22:40 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("It's The Stimulus, Stupid Socialist")
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To: Peter Horry




My point was that, with the specialized equipment required, it doesn’t seem very feasible that someone would alter copies and place them in libraries. It would be difficult to determine which libraries to place the altered copies in and even more difficult to place enough copies to make it unlikely that someone would choose a library with an unaltered copy.






I think it's possible. It is possible that this has been planned from quite awhile back. All it would take is $$$ for the resources (SOROS), and a crew to take care of it in all possible cities and locations (ACORN). Makes sense.
6,456 posted on 08/04/2009 5:23:06 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri
"When the paper was scanned (File Modification Date/Time : 2007:06:05 07:15:37-04:00)"

I would add, when the paper was allegedly scanned. As we know, timestamps can be "falsified" as well.

6,457 posted on 08/04/2009 5:23:10 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: Fred Nerks

I prefer Davis to after the fact microfilm, but I prefer Grandma to Davis, I think.

You could mail in your birth record to the health people in Hawaii back in the day. Some believe that O’s grandma did that when O was getting born in Kenya.


6,458 posted on 08/04/2009 5:24:01 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: All

OFF TOPIC!!

IN case you guys are stuck on this thread like me.

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6,459 posted on 08/04/2009 5:25:15 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Plummz

I wonder if any of the families listed on that day’s announcements kept a copy of the paper as a remembrance for the child ... like ‘This is what was news the day you were born, and you were news!’ For years my Mother had a copy of a Arlington County area newspaper for the day I was born announcement. But then I was born the day the atom bomb was dropped ...


6,460 posted on 08/04/2009 5:26:45 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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