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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: eastforker

This is what I just said in post #5904, in regards to my current position...


Well, I’ve got a pretty basic position mapped out for myself. It breaks down into three areas...

(1) I’m going to go by the official Hawaii pronouncement, unless something solid comes up (in a court of law) that disproves it.
(2) Since everyone wants to see the birth certificate, I’m going to continue to work for enacting a state law for that purpose (Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri and Azrizona already working on it).
(3) The issue of natural born, as far as parents and their citizenship, I’m going to let the Supreme Court decide on it and I’ll take their decision.

That’s where it boils down for me right now...



5,941 posted on 08/03/2009 7:50:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

He seems OK so far,...the question was raised by lots of others.


5,942 posted on 08/03/2009 7:51:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Diverdogz

The Book and Page number are the same on both forms. That’s statistically highly improbable. At least one of these documents is fake or has been altered.


5,943 posted on 08/03/2009 7:53:30 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: Technical Editor
I’m just a delivery girl. I didn’t do the Bomford research. Someone here on this thread: http://www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2099

That site is down, but thanks for your work.

5,944 posted on 08/03/2009 7:57:24 PM PDT by TChad
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To: balls

The page info on the source webpage indicates it was last modified Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:15:37 AM. I’m sure there is a way to fake it, but that Bomford birth certificate is a part of an extensive family tree. Chances are, its the real one and the Obama BC is the fake.


5,945 posted on 08/03/2009 7:59:04 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: Diverdogz
I'm not sure myself. However, i would agree 100% with sourcery (posted above):

"The question isn't whether the image has been photoshopped, but whether the actual paper document is valid. Nothing else is relevant."

5,946 posted on 08/03/2009 8:00:14 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: Diverdogz

Does the fact that this was found by a person who has dogged Polarik and been an Obama stooge make you think twice as to whether the Bomford one is the one that has been forged?

You might also want to take a look at the seal.


5,947 posted on 08/03/2009 8:01:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Star Traveler; Aria; autumnraine

It doesn’t matter where his parents were born; only their citizenship matters.


5,948 posted on 08/03/2009 8:02:19 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: Diverdogz
"The page info on the source webpage indicates it was last modified Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:15:37 AM."

And yes, just like "photo shopping" a pic, a file create and/or mod timestamp can be programmaticly modified (i.e. falsified) as well. Guess we'll have to wait for the actual document to be "expertly" verified (IF that ever happens).

5,949 posted on 08/03/2009 8:03:55 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: balls; Aria; autumnraine

Leo Donofrio says that was the problem with President Chester A. Arthur (21st President) and his father, which made him not qualified to be President.

It sounds like someone should have gotten a Supreme Court Decision after they found out about that one...


5,950 posted on 08/03/2009 8:05:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: bgill

My copy of my BC is a Photostat. It is a negative image, with with writing on black background.

(Also, some of you may remember (in the 50s) libraries had a machine that microfilmed the book card and your library card. If it was overdue, they sent you a negative print as notice.)


5,951 posted on 08/03/2009 8:06:31 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Obama - fooling fewer people every day.)
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To: Star Traveler

So, right or constitutionally wrong, Obama’s parents citizenship won’t realistically factor in becuase of precedent of these other POTUS with foreign parents.

Still, he needs to prove his own citizenship. Period. Arrogant POS.


5,952 posted on 08/03/2009 8:17:07 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Star Traveler; Aria; autumnraine
Categories of US citizen are listed below. (I can't remember the website I got this info from). Please review and change, if necessary.

Natural Born Citizen

Both are parents are U. S. Citizens AND child was born in the U.S. mainland

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

Citizen

Child was born to at least to at least 1 US Citizen Parent (under federal statute)OR was born in the U.S. mainland OR Naturalized under the US Constitution 14th Amendment, Sec. 1

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

Native Born Citizen

Born in the U.S. mainland

US Constitution 14th Amendment, Sec. 1

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

5,953 posted on 08/03/2009 8:25:19 PM PDT by balls ("Our government isn't ours any more" - stockpirate)
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To: rxsid
a file create and/or mod timestamp can be programmaticly modified (i.e. falsified) as well.

Yep, and it's easy.

Here, try it. Double-click on the time on the bottom right-hand corner of your screen.

Change it from today's date to the same date in 2007.

Create a document, edit it, and save it. It'll be time stamped in 2007.

Just be sure to change the year back to 2009 when you're done or when you send an email out from Outlook, Eudora, etc., no one will be able to find your message as it would be chronologically arranged with any other emails from two years ago.

5,954 posted on 08/03/2009 8:26:32 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: balls

Well, I’ve already said what my position was on the whole thing (just above) in my three-part breakdown — and on this one, it was to accept the Supreme Court decision, whatever that happens to be...


5,955 posted on 08/03/2009 8:27:41 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Diverdogz
based on the limited info I have

Then perhaps it's too early to form any strong opinions, one way or the other?

5,956 posted on 08/03/2009 8:32:42 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: Peter Libra

” I hope I can take it easy from now on.LOL “

I expect the left to twist and distort the few facts we know to be true.
Actually, I think it’s only one fact that we can be 100% certain is true-BHO was born.
The ignorance and arrogance from many on the right
is appalling and pretty revealing.
They’re as condescending and sneering as the left typically is and equally as misinformed .
We’re all too dumb to find the name of Barry’s birth hospital- O’Reilly brags that he can do it in less than 24 hrs,
he just doesn’t feel like it.
Maybe they’re all scared.. knowing this bunch in DC- that’s a distinct possibility.
If the day ever comes when a court finally decides Barry
has a duty to be honest and open with the American people,
I guarantee that the sneering Holier than Thous on the right
will say it was their idea all along.


5,957 posted on 08/03/2009 8:33:20 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Aria
"So, right or constitutionally wrong, Obama’s parents citizenship won’t realistically factor in becuase of precedent of these other POTUS with foreign parents."

I wonder if any of them (former POTUS aside from those grandfathered in) where "Governed" at birth, by a foreign government? Barry, from his campaign web site, admitted such.

5,958 posted on 08/03/2009 8:33:55 PM PDT by rxsid
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To: Spaulding

How much damage did Arthur do to the country? I freely admit I know almost next to nothing about him. The founding fathers intrigue me.


5,959 posted on 08/03/2009 8:34:31 PM PDT by machogirl (If Obama's handing out Pie, I like Lemon Meringue.)
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To: deks

Exactly. As long as this argument is just people arguing over the internet about pictures on websites it’s all irrelevant.

Joe Miller at factcheck.org, Orly, Keyes, the Obama Campaign, or anyone besides a COURT OF LAW is not a controlling legal authority.

All I want is the truth.


5,960 posted on 08/03/2009 8:37:05 PM PDT by gura (R-MO)
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