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Is this really it? (re: possible Obama's Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz) Click on the link
orlytaitzesq.com ^ | 8/2/2009 | rxsid

Posted on 08/02/2009 1:35:53 AM PDT by rxsid

Edited on 08/06/2009 12:10:02 AM PDT by John Robinson. [history]

Attorney Taitz filed a NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD.

Barry's Kenyan B.C.??

Special Motion for leave

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/ (site has been the target of hackers, proceed with caution — John)


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To: Apple Blossom
Possibly because:

a Hawaii “COLB” is based on uncertified, nondocumented data submitted by the family based on its declarations only... and to a divorce judge and father's attorney, would not be sufficient legal proof of paternity

and/or Stanley and her parents knew who obtained that COLB and why and how, and might not have wanted to submit it to a court for review as a true legal document in her divorce case

5,141 posted on 08/03/2009 8:19:15 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: RummyChick; silverleaf

What does dying with the name Dunham on her social security card have to do with anything.

A divorce (and she was also Ann Soetoro) gives permission for the maiden name to be used and Social Security will change your name back if you send in the divorce decree.

Her name being Dunham at her death means nothing but that she was divorced when she died. You are assuming because her name was her maiden name that she never got married?


5,142 posted on 08/03/2009 8:19:27 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

You are confusing native born and natural born. You want a scary cover up, take a look at this and pay careful attention to the identities of the players.

http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html


5,143 posted on 08/03/2009 8:19:27 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Diggity

Okay. I guess 1957 is the starting year for the “Republic of Keyna” then. Thanks!


5,144 posted on 08/03/2009 8:20:22 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Roccus

Regarding “Mr. Miller,” there is a Joseph Calder Miller who is an expert on the history of Mombasa and Eastern and Coastal Kenya during the colonial period, also on slavery in Africa.....perhaps a relative of “Mr. Miller”


5,145 posted on 08/03/2009 8:21:10 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: altair

I was not taught to add a horizontal line thru my “7”.
My parents, and later older European co-workers, always added this line to their “7”


5,146 posted on 08/03/2009 8:21:53 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: bushpilot1

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost a son while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both were shot behind the head.

Here is an interesting one...
Lincoln’s secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy’s secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are made of fifteen letters....

http://www.naute.com/stories/lincoln.phtml


5,147 posted on 08/03/2009 8:22:06 AM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: SaraJohnson

Sorry...I’m late replying.

Yes. The comment originated from Orly:

Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.”


5,148 posted on 08/03/2009 8:23:50 AM PDT by PowerPro (2009 - Conservative Revolution Reborn (Go Palin!))
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To: Diggity

Your response doesn’t make sense. Not only that, you’re arguing from the future, which is unknown, against the past, which is known. It’s a classic fallacy of arguing from silence.


5,149 posted on 08/03/2009 8:24:37 AM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: Little Ray

the 1964 date is when a certified copy was issued

the data shows a 1961 birth

Feb 1964 was the middle of Anna Obama/Stanley Dunham’s divorce filing against BO Sr, and a legal, certified (raised seal, by issuer) document identifying the child’s birth identity and parents would have ben required by the court as part of the divorce and custody hearing

If you obtain a copy of your birth certificate from your state’s dept of vital records, it will show the date the certified copy was issued and by what certifying authority


5,150 posted on 08/03/2009 8:24:51 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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To: Jedidah
"He went to elementary school in Indonesia as Barry Soetoro, but was sent back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents prior to adolescence. I don’t think his high school records have been released,"

He was on the state championship basketball team at Ponehou HS (however you spell it). I'm sure his name is in the Hawaii newspapers somewhere. I think he was listed as "Barry Obama" at that time.

5,151 posted on 08/03/2009 8:25:13 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: silverleaf

Some times these documents are used to suppliment other documents. The more paper you present to a judge might support other paper.


5,152 posted on 08/03/2009 8:26:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama's lies make Bill Clinton's lie small)
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To: cookcounty

Who Knows?

Many many tangents on this thread.


5,153 posted on 08/03/2009 8:27:00 AM PDT by Roccus (The Capitol, the White House, the Court House...........America's Axis of Evil)
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To: bgill
If Obama’s mother was getting a divorce in Hawaii, and had to prove to the judge there was a child produced from the marriage, then why did she have to send to Kenya to get that proof? Maybe the U.S. required an ORIGINAL birth record and she knew the Hawaiian one wasn't the original?
5,154 posted on 08/03/2009 8:27:14 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Peter Horry

I like Ron but he sounded like he was in a big hurry in that post and was just regurgitating skeptical remarks from others. I would like him to have a close look at the graphics but it’s his time, not mine.

I agree that the “E.F. Lavender” business was puerile. My name is Johnson...people have fun with it for various reasons. That proves zilch. FReepers have already located an Eric Lavender. The document number makes perfect sense if the record is in a “Book 44” under the “O’s.”


5,155 posted on 08/03/2009 8:29:49 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Little Ray
But if were real, and if Obama was forced in some fashion to step down, just think, we'll have the Incredible Human Gaffe Machine, Joe Biden, for President, and whoever the Pelosi / Reid / Soros Congress approves for VP. I disagree. They are ALL implicated in any fraud because they did not verify his eligibility thoroughly and maintained he was natural born knowing that they had not verified it. And even his eligibility was brought up in lawsuits, they pretended there was no problem.
5,156 posted on 08/03/2009 8:29:57 AM PDT by Technical Editor
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To: Red Steel

Since yesterday every time I try to go on Orly’s site my computer blocks it with this massive warning, lots of red ink, about Orly being an “attack site”. I have to do a lot to try and get around it as the “ignore this warning” button does not work. I believe that many people are attacking her website and, quite frankly, I am amazed she has not been harmed. God keep and protect her.


5,157 posted on 08/03/2009 8:30:46 AM PDT by ethical
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To: Aria; All

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004164387_brodeur05m.html

Box last saw her friend in 1961, when she visited Seattle on her way from Honolulu to Massachusetts, where her then-husband was attending Harvard.


Which now that I have reread this bookmark, I realize it was WRONG.

The friend states that Dunham saw her friend in 1961 when she was traveling to Massechusetts to be with Obama at Harvard. But Obama Sr did not graduate the University of Hawaii until JUNE 1962!! Then he went to Mass. to attend Harvard in the fall.

Now here’s the kicker, is this Box lady lying because she knows where Obama’s mother was coming from and heading to? Or was Ann lying to her friend because she was ashamed that she was now the single mother of a child at 18 and knew Sr had another wife in Kenya?


5,158 posted on 08/03/2009 8:31:04 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: Little Ray
I thought Obama was born 04 August 1961? In which case, what relevance does a 1964 birth certificate have?

Relevance would be that the one he showed on FactCheck and Kos both were dated 2007. So, I guess we could say where is the relevance for that one?

Relevance for the copy of the Kenyan Birth Certificate dated 1964 is that is when Stanley requested a birth certificate for her divorce proceedings. If I ordered one of my childrens birth certificates today it would be dated 2009 with information of their birth in 199* which was the year that they were born.
5,159 posted on 08/03/2009 8:31:20 AM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: BP2
From the London Times


5,160 posted on 08/03/2009 8:31:29 AM PDT by RubyR
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