Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
Please elaborate.
YES, He has hidden everything about his past.
It’s not even as official as that Tamar! It’s a “CertificATION of Live Birth”.
At first I didn't consider this a worthwhile pursuit. That was a year ago. The longer this nonsense went on the more I became suspicious. Baghdad Bob Gibbs condescending replies to questions even makes it more questionable. Even Helen Thomas has questions. Tony Snow or Dana Perino would have said “I'll see if I can get a copy tomorrow”.
But we still haven't seen Bill Clinton's medical records. Wonder what he was hiding.
It shatters my whole penchant for logic that one man, whose presidency may well be totally fraudulent, now totally controls 300 million Americans, and that the sword is getting ready to fall again with this Deathcare bill. For the past fifty years, our collective psyche has been massaged and groomed to not only accept such a consequence, but to willingly embrace it (at least half the electorate, that is.)
Yes. I believe he is hiding something or he wouldn’t have issued an executive order to have his records sealed on day one.
Isn’t it called “projection” by psychologists when someone such as yourself engages in unsupported namecalling while accusing others of being the ones doing the namecalling?
does anyone really know him?
In fact, he is:
· An empty suit.
· A man with no birth certificate.
· A man who was deserted in childhood by his biological father.
· A man whose birth records, both in the United States and Kenya , are sealed by government order.
· A man whose childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, spied on U.S. military installations in Hawaii for the Soviet Union, edited a communist newspaper, authored pornographic novels, and wrote poetry in praise of Joseph Stalin.
· A man mentored by and still supported by radical Muslims.
· A man who promised transparency in government, but has spent over a million dollars in legal fees hiding information that would determine his eligibility to be President.
· A former drug user.
· A man whose academic records are sealed from kindergarten through law school.
· A man who arrived in New York in June of 1981 without enough money to get a hotel room, but one month later flew to Indonesia and Pakistan .
· Why did he go?
· Who paid his expenses?
· A man who traveled to Pakistan when it was illegal for U.S. citizens to do so. So what country’s passport did he use?
· A man whose Law School Admission Test scores and grades at Columbia University are known to have been mediocre, but was admitted to Harvard Law School through the intervention of a Saudi named Khalid al-Mansour.
· A law review editor who never published an article in any law review.
· A lawyer with no significant accomplishments in the law and no reputation in the legal community.
· A former State and U.S. Senator, who never authored a piece of legislation.
· A disciple of the Marxist Saul Alinsky.
· A product of the Chicago political machine—the most corrupt political organization in America .
· A man who selects Marxists, corrupt politicians, and criminals as his close political associates and personal friends.
· A man whose presidential candidacy was endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America , the Socialist International, and the Workers International League.
· A man lauded for the literary brilliance of two memoirs, both of which were ghostwritten by others.
· A so-called Christian who says that knowing when life human begins is “above his pay-grade,” but somehow knows that abortion is permissible at any stage.
· A man who thinks “waterboarding” is immoral, but that partial-birth abortion is moral.
· A man who publicly laments slavery in America—which was abolished 150 years ago—but praises Islam, which still practices both slavery and the sexual mutilation of young girls.
· A man who speaks endlessly about helping the less fortunate, but gives almost none of his sizeable income to charity—not even to his half-brother, who is living in squalor in Kenya.
· A man who had the most left-wing voting record in the United State Senate, but was predicted by the press to “govern from the middle.”
· A man who has never created a job, met a payroll, or even operated a lemonade stand, but wants to tell Detroit how to make cars.
· A President who has never before served as an executive in either the private or the public sector.
· A Commander-in-Chief who doesn’t know how to shoot a rifle, throw a hand-grenade, drive a tank, fly a plane, or con a ship.
· A Commander-in-Chief who has publicly divulged some of our nation’s most important intelligence secrets.
· A man who has been put in charge of the largest economic engine that ever existed, but has never invested in the stock market and admits total ignorance of it.
· A President who says that science will guide his administration, but has no education in the sciences.
· A man who is proficient in reading what is written for him on a teleprompter, but jerks and stammers his way through any off-the-cuff speaking.
· A man whose health records are sealed from childhood to the present day.
· A man whose educational records are sealed from childhood through law school.
· A man who spent 20 years in a church whose pastor espouses Marxist Liberation Theology, anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Semitism, but claims he never heard his pastor utter anti-American, and anti-Semitic statements.
· A man who added more to the National Debt in 100 days than all other Presidents did in the past 220 years, yet feels qualified to lecture Americans about “fiscal responsibility”.
· A man who publicly expressed disdain for the U.S. Constitution on a Chicago radio station because it limited the government’s ability to “redistribute wealth.”
· The first American President to bow before a foreign head of state—a Muslim dictator.
· A man who sits and listens submissively while his country is castigated by Daniel Ortega—a Communist thug whose own daughter accused him of raping her.
· A narcissist who gave the Queen of England a present from the United States —an iPod containing recordings of his own speeches.
· A so-called Christian who officially declared “Pride Month” for a lifestyle that the Bible calls an abomination.
· A man who wanted Americans to ignore his Muslim name during his election campaign, yet boasts of his Muslim name when he travels to Muslim countries.
· A man who can name hundreds of America ’s shortcomings, yet none of its great accomplishments.
· A President who claims the moral high ground by closing Gitmo yet supports the transfer of terror suspects to countries where horrific torture is certain.
· A President who scoffed at being called a socialist yet acted to nationalize the auto industry, the banking industry, and the insurance industry . . . and now seeks to nationalize the healthcare industry.
· A President who violates private property rights, the sanctity of contracts, and the rule of law—three essential principles that go back over a thousand years in the Common Law tradition.
· A man who promised 95% of all Americans a tax cut, but is increasing taxes on 100% of the population through inflation—the cruelest tax of all.
· A lawyer who represented ACORN—an organization now indicted in several states for voter fraud—whose stated goal is to get as many people on welfare as possible in order to destroy our financial system.
· A President who cheated GM’s bondholders by giving their property to the UAW in a political payoff.
· An American President who frequently criticizes his own country when speaking in foreign countries, but never praises America’s generosity, goodness or greatness.
· A President whose Secretary of the Treasury cheated on his taxes—as did several other appointees and advisors.
· A President who, despite the current federal debt of 100 trillion dollars, wants to add the greatest debt ever by nationalizing healthcare.
· A President who scoffs at being called a socialist, yet has appointed 28 “Czars” to circumvent constitutional government, including:
· A “Science Czar” who has advocated compulsory abortions for American women and the “surrender of sovereignty” to a “comprehensive Planetary Regime.”
· A self-professed communist as his “Green Jobs Czar”.
· A “Pay Czar” to regulate the pay of corporate executives.
· A President who swore an oath to “preserve, protect and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic,” yet has nominated a domestic enemy of the Constitution to the Supreme Court.
· A President whose Homeland Security Chief classified pro-lifers, veterans, and supporters of traditional marriage as terrorists.
· A President who stood silent while the Iranian government hacked unarmed protestors to death with axes, because it was an internal matter, but freely offers his opinions about the internal affairs of Israel and Honduras.
· A President who decreed that true acts of terrorism must now be described as “man-made disasters.”
· A President who cracks hurtful jokes about Special Olympians.
· A President who refused to intercept or inspect a North Korean ship virtually certain to be carrying Weapons of Mass Destruction toBurma.
· A President who wants to cancel all missile defenses while rogue nations are developing long-range ballistic missiles.
· An American President who blames the violence in Mexico on America .
· A Commander in Chief who claims to have been unaware that Air Force One was taken on a terrifying, low-level photo-op over Manhattan .
· A President who berates American CEO’s for flying in private planes at private expense on company business, but whose wife spends hundreds of thousands tax payer dollars flying to Paris for a shopping spree.
· A President who promised a transparent administration, but requires all questions be screened before “impromptu” appearances.
· A man who freely admitted that his energy policies are designed to bankrupt the American coal industry.
· A President who has presided over the loss of 14.7 million jobs and whose “energy policy” will cause the loss of another 1 million jobs.
· A President whose “energy policy” will increase the average American’s utility bills by over $2,000 a year in the middle of the Great Recession.
· A man about whom liberal journalist Tom Brokaw said, “There’s a lot about him we don’t know.” . . .just one week before the election.
The vast majority of Americans do not know who he is, but someone surely does. Someone paid for his travel expenses to Pakistan and Indonesia . Someone engineered legal challenges to all of his election opponents for the State Senate and had them disqualified. Someone straightened and leveled his path to the U.S. Senate when a Democrat Judge made public the child custody records of his Republican opponent. When he was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, someone arranged for him to speak at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Someone saw to it that all of his records were sealed, both at home and abroad. Someone assembled the massive organization for his run for the Presidency. Someone knows all about him.
Who?
Yes.
I believe it doesn’t really matter where he was born or the circumstances because when he was adopted by an Indonesian he became an Indonesian citizen - and Indonesia does not recognize dual citizenship. It was after he turned 18 that he traveled to Pakistan, which he could not have done on a US passport at the time. When he did that, because he was of age, it affirmed the Indonesian citizenship. I believe he attended college as a foreign student, which is why he is hiding the college documents.
I find it interesting that on his Illinois Bar application he uses the name Barack Hussein Obama and attests that he has never been known by any other name, thus committing perjury because we know he had been known as Barry Soerto for many years. (There is a copy of this document on a thread somewhere in the FR archives.)
I think this all stinks to high heaven. One thing I know for sure, God is not mocked and no one gets away with deceit forever. His actions tell him out and the scales are beginning to fall from people’s eyes. You can tell by the falling approval ratings. Sooner or later he will become a liability to the wrong people. I believe he is in power now because he has been supported by powerful foreign interests - the same ones that paid his way to expensive colleges and provided all those illegal campaign contributions, and this is NOT good news. I pray for our country.
Yes.
Isn't it obvious?
Hiding: He has blocked access to virtually every document or thing that might reveal something about his past. His actions are the dictionary definition of hiding, or they should be.
Lying: He has spoken of that past, but his words are the only evidence that has been proffered. This is particularly unusual for some things such as a birth certificate which for virtually everyone contains completely harmless information. The only reason to withhold this and similar items is that it and they would show that this spoken past is not wholly true. Most people refer to such spoken things that are not true as lies.
ML/NJ
Yes!
1. IF he produced the long form BC and it was authenticated, I think most of us "birthers" would accept it, especially if he produced all his other hidden records.
Meanwhile, while everyone is chasing a birth certificate, obama and the democrats are going to shove healthcare reform through....
2. I am so tired of reading this immature, stupid, bogus argument. It is either made by people who are his supporters who want to discourge us, or by people who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Most of us can multi-task without a problem. This one issue does not consume our lives and minds. We are actively working against what the dims are doing too.
flame away, but if we allow this birth certificate thing to continue he will shove a lot more than healthcare through and everyone will still be chasing the birth certificate......
In case you haven't noticed, not "everyone" is pursuing this issue. If all the media was reporting 24/7 then yes, it would be a distraction from what D.C. is doing.
Yes to Jim Robinson’s question, and ditto to your post, sunny48
Those old white guys knew a thing or two about human nature and about how loyalty and patriotism are ingrained into a child. One can even go back to Moses, who was given over to the Egyptians at age THREE (presumably after he was weaned from his mother, who was his nurse in the Egyptian palace). Still, he retained a heart loyalty to the Jews and at age FORTY, rose up to defend his people.
I would say yes. Here’s a guy who has written two “autobiographies” without telling us much of anything. As Paul Johnson noted in “Intellectuals”, libs are rarely more duplicitious than when indulging in confessional or autobiographical writing.
There’s a lot we don’t know.
Okay. Blame people who are concerned with the issue of Obama's documentation for the way the Socialists in Congress vote.
Doesn't that sound a tad twisted?
It isn't as if we do not have time to pester our Congressmen about other issues as well.
But, as I have found, even overwhelming responses which decry a program do not change the vote of someone who thinks they know more than the rest of us even if they have not read the Bill, nor will they have to live under the rules they make for those of us who do not want them.
That does not stop me from expressing my opinion on all the issues, even though it has been generally ineffective at changing the votes of the people in Washington.
But if it can be proven that he is illegitimate, everything that he and congress did from the point of his inauguration will also be illegitimate.
Yes, he’s hiding something. I’d elaborate, but that’s the point - there’s nothing to elaborate on! no records, no forms, no history, no friends, no acquaintances, no contacts, ... nothing.
I do, although, my reason is probably somewhat less thought out than those who are experts on the situation. If there is nothing to hide, I believe he would have revealed his birth certificate months ago. Part of me believed he had a legitmate birth certificate and was waiting for Rush, etc. to comment so he could discredit them by saying “look, they’re racists, they’re questioning this” blah blah blah. But now, not only has a birth certificate not been released; there are questions about his “alias” Soreto in Indonesia, lying on his bar application, and apparently college scholarships/grants/$ he received. Add to it, Gibbs’ comment about it being proved ad nausem, which it has not, my “spidey” senses are tingling so to speak.
“Sooner or later he will become a liability to the wrong people.”
Ultimately, this is what it will take to expose him. You just can’t keep a lid on a boiling pot forever.
Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
Yes, he is hiding almost everything about his past.
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