Posted on 07/17/2009 5:48:28 AM PDT by kellynla
OK, I confess, the title is a bit misleading.
It should read Obama And His Lack Of A Birth Certificate Is About To Make History.
Yesterday, World Net Daily broke the story of Army Major Stefan Cook, who argued that he should not have to deploy to Afghanistan because President Obama has not proven that he is a natural-born citizen, therefore he is unable to serve as Commander-In-Chief.
This is something that will receive little, if any, coverage from the mainstream media.
However, the fact that the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a soldier about to be sent overseas based wholly upon such a claim is unprecedented.
This controversy over Obama’s failure to produce a valid birth certificate has been an ongoing saga.
And all calls for him to do so have either been belittled or ignored by the White House. Which may lead some folks to suspect that the reason he doesn’t simply produce the blasted thing and put this story to rest once and for all is because he doesn’t have one!
About the only attention we have seen regarding this issue was the presentation of a “Certificate Of Live Birth” supposedly issued by the State of Hawaii.
This proves less than nothing, as first, to look at it you would think that a 12-year old made it on their home computer, and secondly is the fact that a child does not have to be born in Hawaii in order for the state to issue such a document to the child’s parents.
Even if this document is legitimate, it is a far cry from an actual birth certificate, and it surely is not proof of where Obama was actually born.
However , there are literally thousands of articles and opinions floating around about Obama’s birth certificate, or lack therof, and I don’t want to bore you with re-visiting the same stories.
Rather, I would like to expound on my claim that Obama’s lack of a birth certificate will make history. Consider the following:
If indeed it is proven that Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, and therefore is unable to serve as President, he will not be remembered as America’s first black President, rather history will remember him as the man who was the cause of the biggest Constitutional crisis this country has ever seen!
The question will be raised of what will happen to other troops deployed by Obama, and the troops already serving under orders from an ineligible commander in chief.
Every piece of legislation that Obama has signed since taking office would now be considered under law to be null and void.
Imagine what this would mean to the stock market, financial institutions, the auto industry, as well as every other facet of the American economy.
Not to mention, the people who already accuse the president’s critics of being racists will no doubt try to use this as their proof and stoke racial tensions to the point of riot.
Every appointment he has made, regardless if it was an appointment as a “Czar’, or a Cabinet-level position, would have to be overturned, and it would become the duty of the Vice-President to re-fill those positions.
Which leads to perhaps the most intriguing scenario of all.
The Constitution states that if the President is unable to serve, the Vice-President shall assume the duties of the office.
However, if the man who chose you to be his running mate was found to have been elected to the office in violation of Constitutional law, where does that leave you Mr. Biden?
After all, we (well, some of you poor misguided individuals) voted for the two of you as a team running on the same ticket.
So if it is found that the man who picked you to be his running mate did so in direct violation of federal law, doesn’t it follow that you were also elected to the Vice-Presidency under false pretenses?
Barack Obama. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!
When the U.S. military accepts the claim of a soldier that the man posing as Commander-In-Chief has failed to produce his eligibility to hold that title, we may be on the verge of seeing change beyond belief.
Great Holy Mother of God. That is incredible language to hear from anyone this side of the Birch Society.
Just who are these military adventurers he plans to name? The Chairman of the JCS?
He's going to have trouble proving "treason" with the U.S. not officially at war with anyone (well, maybe North Korea -- but Korea was always just a "police action" anyway). The Constitution is quite strict about the construction of a treason charge.
“Plutocrat”
Oooooh, good one!
Obama will be Americas political version of Chernobyl.
A costly and embarrassing mistake that has to be constantly monitored and heavily buried and shielded for generations to follow.
I would say that its possible we will be editing his history of lies and impersonations for decades.
Obama is a radioactive leak, the longer we are close to him the more he will kill us, killing us silently, while we sleep.
Obama knows he has a limited amount of time to sack and pillage, he can hear the cries of “thief!” being yelled at him.
But this thief wants to have every AMERICAN equal, all the rich will lose their money to support the poor peoples health care, their unemployment insurance, everyone must be more “equalized” according to Obama.
Paranoid?
Your "question" ( post 375) is nothing more than a variation on the DNC "Nut and Slut" talk point. You are using the "nut" part.
Translation ( post 375): The Constitutional Defenders are soooooo nutty that no amount of evidence will satisfy them so Obama shouldn't bother to provide any.
And....Anyone who recognizes this **common** DNC taking point strategy as defending Obama's stonewalling is "paranoid" ( post 494). ( Paranoid is the "nut" half of the "Nut and Slut" DNC talking point.)
But...Woodyman ( who joined yesterday). I do give you credit for being one of the smoother defenders of Obama.
Nope. I am saying exactly what I said. I cast no aspersions on your position or your argument. Perhaps in the future you can refrain from ascribing views to me I have neither stated nor adopted.( post522)
You see, Woodyman (who joined yesterday) there is a difference between a private conversation and the Internet.
The following is a general statement about Marxists, and NOT about **you**, Woodyman Who Joined Yesterday.
In a private conversation a Marxist (I am speaking generally, and I am not referring to you, Woodyman Who Joined Yesterday) can deny, deny, deny. Those who defend and uphold the Constitution may eventually get disgusted and walk away. The Marxist may even think that he has "won" the debate.
Ah...But those who defend and uphold the Constitution now have the Internet. The words of the Marxists stand for all to read. It's like a variation on the Fox News jingle. "We report. You decide!" Here on the Internet. "The Marxists post. The world gets to decide."
With talk radio and the Internet, the weasel room for Marxists is shrinking.
I am speaking generally in the above three paragraphs and I am **NOT** referring to you Woodyman Who Joined Yesterday.
Oh...And by the way, ..."And for the life of me I can't see how saying" anything about Marxists "constitutes" me accusing you of being Marxist "except to someone who is so paranoid that they think any statement that isn't in 100% agreement with them " means they are being accused of being a Marxist.
Your lack of originality is not surprising. This is why you drink the birther Kool-aid.
Don’t pray for me. I don’t want your prayers. Why don’t you pray that you find a good mental health professional who can help you.
Meanwhile find something substantive to criticize Obama about ( there’s plenty) and stop making conservatives look like the lunatic left.
Good to hear from you again, got bored did you? I find it strange, considering you inane posts, that you are concerned with the image of conservatives (perhaps you really aren’t).
I see you have made comments, to several posters, about Rosie Odonnell , got her on yer mind do you. Well I have just the flick for you. Run, don’t walk to the nearest video store and rent Exit To Eden (it has Rosie and she’s dressed as a dominatrix), this should give you something else to do.... but remember what your mother said about touching your “naughty” places.
The charge of treason is good enough for me.
I guess you told me didn’t you.
I’m sure the original Mr. Horry, a true patriot who hung out with real men like Francis Marion, would be proud.
Have fun on your spaceship. Make sure you throw away all those tin foil boxes you used to make your hat. Don’t litter.
This isn’t about Obama’s citizenship. It’s about some people who are into conspiracy theories ( like Rosie O’Donnell and the 9-11 truthers). They like them because it’s entertainment.
Why is it entertaining? Who knows? Overactive imaginations maybe.
The problem is that to associate this stuff with conservatives is just as bad for them as the “Bush knew about 9-11 in advance” conspiracy theory was for the liberals.
Anytime you want to shut a liberal up all you had to say was “Yeah I bet you think 9-11 was an inside job.”
If you want to start a conspiracy theories you could make a good case that George Soros is funding this stuff to make conservatives look like idiots.
The above is the "nut" part of the common Marxist "Nut and Slut" attack on Constitution Defenders. It is an attempt to discredit the obvious by denigrating the messenger.
The message is that Obama ( the "Transparency President") has never allowed verification of his natural born status. This is **fact**.
"I know what it is, you are really a plant by Huffington Post so they can say conservatives are crazy". .
"Those voices in your head are getting louder aren't they.".
"How's your tinfoil hat coming along?".
"Are you and Rosie O'Donnell getting together later?".
"I'm sure the original Mr. Horry, a true patriot who hung out with real men like Francis Marion, would be proud.".
You seem to questioning my patriotism as well as my manhood (that's so DU), but that is consistent with your level of writing. You do bring up an interesting question, however, what would these men and others such as Thomas Sumter think of the current state of our country (I think they would be appalled and saddened) but I also wonder what they would do.... what do you think? .
"Have fun on your spaceship. Make sure you throw away all those tin foil boxes you used to make your hat. Don't litter".
Thank you, believe I will. No tin foil necessary though just a super set of headphones. Here is the web site (if you are interested) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwGEJ7nXr4 and the lyrics (if you want to sing along). Now until you write on the level your claimed credentials would suggest. YOUR TIME IS UP, I will finish my ride and then.... the redbreast are calling. .
Country Joe Mcdonald - Starship Ride Lyrics .
Oh, get your self together Oh, leave your troubles behind Oh, don't worry 'bout the weather We'll be going on a starship ride. .
Oh, the moon is callin' Come pack your troubles away Out where the stars are fallin' We'll be cruisin' the milky way .
Hey, tell your mama and your papa Don't wait up tonight We'll bring back a little piece of heaven When we get back from our starship ride
I see that, according to your public profile, you claim to be an author and columnist, yet you write the drivel below,,, that is sad: You should write on the level that someone with your claimed accomplishments would be capable of.
"I know what it is, you are really a plant by Huffington Post so they can say conservatives are crazy". .
"Those voices in your head are getting louder aren't they.".
"How's your tinfoil hat coming along?".
"Are you and Rosie O'Donnell getting together later?".
"I'm sure the original Mr. Horry, a true patriot who hung out with real men like Francis Marion, would be proud.".
You seem to questioning my patriotism as well as my manhood (that's so DU), but that is consistent with your level of writing, but you do bring up an interesting question, what would these men and others such as Thomas Sumter think of the current state of our country (I think they would be appalled and saddened) but I also wonder what they would do. What do you think? .
"Have fun on your spaceship. Make sure you throw away all those tin foil boxes you used to make your hat. Don't litter".
Thank you, believe I will. No tin foil necessary though just a super set of headphones. Here is the web site (if you are interested) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFwGEJ7nXr4 and the lyrics (if you want to sing along. Now until you write on the level your claimed credential would suggest. Now, YOUR TIME IS UP, I will finish my ride and then.... the redbreast are calling. .
Country Joe Mcdonald - Starship Ride Lyrics .
Oh, get your self together :
Oh, leave your troubles behind :
Oh, don't worry 'bout the weather :
We'll be going on a starship ride. .
Oh, the moon is callin':
Come pack your troubles away :
Out where the stars are fallin':
We'll be cruisin' the milky way .
Hey, tell your mama and your papa :
Don't wait up tonight :
We'll bring back a little piece of heaven :
When we get back from our starship ride
“Actually, to be precise, Leahy had inserted in the resolution that McCain was born on U.S territory in the Canal Zone. That was not true according to the BC McCain submitted showing he was born in a hospital in Colon, Panama.”
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Sigh. Once again, McCain has never publicly submitted his BC. The BC which purports to show birth in Colon, Panama, is a forgery and was part of the Hollander nuisance lawsuit against McCain. According to WaPo reporter Michael Dobbs, a McCain aide showed him McCain’s BC which shows birth at the naval base hospital at Coco Solo, Canal Zone. Signed by Capt. W.L. Irvine, director of the base hospital. McCain’s mother, who ought to know, says the same thing. If you don’t believe her, maybe you could try getting the nice old dame on a perjury charge. {:^)
What? You trying to get me killed? That woman would fry my liver! ... I think Polarik also believes the ‘displayed’ McCain BC to be a forgery. I’ll take his word for it since he has a near flawless track record. I wonder if Juan would have shown his BC to the public had he been elected and it were the democrats playing Birther?
I also find it interesting that the sheeple are supposed to take Leahy’s word for it, without having any documentation presented. That smell right to you, Bob?
BTW, if the document used in the Hollander suit was a forgery, why hasn’t the legal team for Hollander been brought up on chagres for trying to use a forgery in court?
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Capitol Briefing - Citizen McCain, Cont'd
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| acre reservation in 1941-1942, during which time the naval ..... construction era L'Hospital Notre Dame du Canal. ..... building at the former Coco Solo Naval Base. Fort Davis Elementary Construction of the single-story Fort Davis ... http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.military/2005-12/msg00771.html - 133k - Cached - Similar pages |
| McCain could not have been "born in Coco Solo Naval Base hospital, Panama Canal Zone," ... Franklin D. Roosevelt's Executive Order 8981, December 17, 1941, ... the initial boundaries for the property, before the hospital's construction. ... http://web.me.com/donnicoloff/directlightproductions.com/Articles/Entries/2008/12/18_The_Three_Stooges_go_to_Washington:_Part_5_BarackObama:_New_Revelations,_Same_Ol_Dirt.html - 98k - Cached - Similar pages |
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“BTW, if the document used in the Hollander suit was a forgery, why hasn’t the legal team for Hollander been brought up on chagres for trying to use a forgery in court?”
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Hollander’s case dropped dead on the courthouse steps, same as AIP Markham Robinson’s case did in CA (Robinson vs. Bowen) and same as all the Obama suits so far. So it never got into court. If by some Jupiter-leaves-its-orbit kind of event Hollander’s case had gone forward, he might have faced legal sanctions if it could have been shown he knew it was a forgery. (Nobody has alleged that Hollander was part of the forgery.) Not that it matters, but if IIRC there was no “legal team” for Hollander - his case was pro se, although there were outside comments by some legal eagles.
BTW, there’s a video of McCain’s mom recalling his birth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2XTDHltNVU
The old gal is amazingly sharp for her age. Sharper, IMHO, than junior.
Thanks! My Mother is 92. Until late last year, she could have scared the bejeebers out of some wiht the fatcs she could recall immediately when ask. If McCain’s Mother says he was born in the Canal Zone, that’s good enough for me. But it would not have been sufficient if challenged in a court, if there were docuemtns to the contrary. But then democraps ‘create’ documents all the time.
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