Posted on 07/17/2009 5:48:28 AM PDT by kellynla
OK, I confess, the title is a bit misleading.
It should read Obama And His Lack Of A Birth Certificate Is About To Make History.
Yesterday, World Net Daily broke the story of Army Major Stefan Cook, who argued that he should not have to deploy to Afghanistan because President Obama has not proven that he is a natural-born citizen, therefore he is unable to serve as Commander-In-Chief.
This is something that will receive little, if any, coverage from the mainstream media.
However, the fact that the U.S. Army revoked the orders of a soldier about to be sent overseas based wholly upon such a claim is unprecedented.
This controversy over Obama’s failure to produce a valid birth certificate has been an ongoing saga.
And all calls for him to do so have either been belittled or ignored by the White House. Which may lead some folks to suspect that the reason he doesn’t simply produce the blasted thing and put this story to rest once and for all is because he doesn’t have one!
About the only attention we have seen regarding this issue was the presentation of a “Certificate Of Live Birth” supposedly issued by the State of Hawaii.
This proves less than nothing, as first, to look at it you would think that a 12-year old made it on their home computer, and secondly is the fact that a child does not have to be born in Hawaii in order for the state to issue such a document to the child’s parents.
Even if this document is legitimate, it is a far cry from an actual birth certificate, and it surely is not proof of where Obama was actually born.
However , there are literally thousands of articles and opinions floating around about Obama’s birth certificate, or lack therof, and I don’t want to bore you with re-visiting the same stories.
Rather, I would like to expound on my claim that Obama’s lack of a birth certificate will make history. Consider the following:
If indeed it is proven that Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, and therefore is unable to serve as President, he will not be remembered as America’s first black President, rather history will remember him as the man who was the cause of the biggest Constitutional crisis this country has ever seen!
The question will be raised of what will happen to other troops deployed by Obama, and the troops already serving under orders from an ineligible commander in chief.
Every piece of legislation that Obama has signed since taking office would now be considered under law to be null and void.
Imagine what this would mean to the stock market, financial institutions, the auto industry, as well as every other facet of the American economy.
Not to mention, the people who already accuse the president’s critics of being racists will no doubt try to use this as their proof and stoke racial tensions to the point of riot.
Every appointment he has made, regardless if it was an appointment as a “Czar’, or a Cabinet-level position, would have to be overturned, and it would become the duty of the Vice-President to re-fill those positions.
Which leads to perhaps the most intriguing scenario of all.
The Constitution states that if the President is unable to serve, the Vice-President shall assume the duties of the office.
However, if the man who chose you to be his running mate was found to have been elected to the office in violation of Constitutional law, where does that leave you Mr. Biden?
After all, we (well, some of you poor misguided individuals) voted for the two of you as a team running on the same ticket.
So if it is found that the man who picked you to be his running mate did so in direct violation of federal law, doesn’t it follow that you were also elected to the Vice-Presidency under false pretenses?
Barack Obama. CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!
When the U.S. military accepts the claim of a soldier that the man posing as Commander-In-Chief has failed to produce his eligibility to hold that title, we may be on the verge of seeing change beyond belief.
Concurring bump. Use ACORN and NBPP goons to start riots, declare insurrection from the Oval Office (never mind that the States have to certify it), and then jump all over conservative whites and send them to concentration camps.
Seize talk radio, the Net, everything and everybody that isn't on his side. Then he's President for Life. However long that turns out to be.
But if he gets his chance to declare martial law, the Republic's finished, and his faction has the largest, best-organzed group in play, ready to take us under and establish bootheel dictatorship.
That would be my guess.
How am I defending Obama?
Would it put the issue to bed for you if he walked out with a birth certificate and said "here it is"? Would you just accept that and move on?
If the answer to those questions is "no," then you do not agree with the posters to whom I was responding, either.
How’s your membership in Du- or is it Kos?
“Things aren’t always as they seem. The revocation of the orders does not, I repeat, does not necessarily mean that the military believes Obama is not legit. It could mean that they have concerns regarding the Major’s effectiveness were he to be deployed given his views. As an Army vet, I can understand that.”
As a Marine Corps vet, my gut tells me that Obama had one of his flunkies contact DOD and had Cook’s orders revoked rather than deal with the issue in court.
Unfortunatley, for Hussein, this will not be the end of it...
Stay tuned...
Where was I defending Obama?
I'll accept your apology in advance.
You owe me an apology.
BO is not a natural born citizen & he has given us the proof in his book. His father never attained U.S. citizenship. Natural born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.
Article II, sec 1 of the Constitution “No person except a natural born citizen...shall be eligible to the office of President...”
It does not matter what cases Berg represented before this one & the Constitution has not changed because you spoke to some immigration lawyer. Do they have the power to change the Constitution? You are easily satisfied.
The best we can do is prove this without a doubt before the next election. Remember most democrats think in simplistic terms they need to have this in a simple and boxed up for them. Something like his real birth certificate might do it.
I know he is at a fast pace of destruction but I don't see any choice. The people made their bed they have to live with it.
Not a single Congress Critter - or Federal Judge, ALL of whom swore to defend and uphold the Constitution have directly asked the "anointed" thug to produce the ONLY document necessary to prove his eligibility under the Constitution...
I don't want to hear this bullsquat about "standing"...
I don't want to hear this bullsquat about "executive privilege".
Every mother or father, wife, child or relative of a warrior should have "standing" to determine if Obama is a legitimate holder of office and AUTHORITY to send warriors into harm's way.
I simply want the sonofabitch to produce a valid Birth Certificate to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt he is eligible to hold the office under the Constitution..
Remember - Obama was the thug who had his competition in previous elections DISQUALIFIED on "technicalities".... Turnabout should be fair play and expected.
If Obama was legitimate - which we KNOW he isn't on several levels - he would have produced the Birth Certificate.. Absolutely no reason not to.....except it doesn't exist.
Obama is a liar, fraud, black racist, closet Muslim, Marxist and illegal President....
That's so much to admire, love and fawn over for the media and the ignorant sheeple in America who are allowed to vote.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Hmmm... No. What would put the issue to bed for me is if he fired up his teleprompter, got on television live and said 'effectively immediately and for the good of the nation, I resign...'.
Ermmmm.... That's what we all want here. Obama is literally like some nightmare out of Atlas Shrugged come to life and you're freaking A right I want him gone. If we have to hound him to death over something like this- fine, so be it- whatever it takes. LBJ decided not to run again, right? We have a moral obligation to try to get Obama to leave office. If that's not what you want too you're sort of in the wrong place.
I don't think so. And for the life of me I can't see how saying that out loud constitutes 'defending Obama,' except to someone who is so paranoid that they think any statement that isn't in 100% agreement with them is 'defending Obama.'
You'll get an apology just as soon as you identify any even slightly plausible reason you are entitled to one.
And thanks for your kindness and hospitality.
“Again - it isn’t the production of the document I’m questioning. It is the idea that this is all that would be required to end this issue”
Well, let’s make this personal. What would satisfy YOU that Senator Obama was eligible for the office of president and thus end the issue..
This is the South Carolina ballot requirements as stated on their web site. I suspect that other states have similar requirements.
“The written certification required by this section must contain a statement that each certified candidate meets, or will meet by the time of the general election, or as otherwise required by law, the qualifications in the United States Constitution, statutory law, and party rules to participate in the presidential preference primary for which he has filed. Political parties must not certify any candidate who does not or will not by the time of the general election meet the qualifications in the United States Constitution, statutory law, and party rules for the presidential preference primary for which the candidate desires to file, and such candidate’s name must not be placed on a primary ballot.”
The question I have is, who was responsible for verifying that these requirements were met (or did they use the “honor” system) and what documentation was supplied to show that these requirements were met? Show us the statement certifying the candidates qualification (and who made it), tell us what proof was supplied that the candidate met the qualifications (or was it the honor system again), show us (or an appointed authority such as the court) what collaborating evidence was filed (if any). Then, if the involved authorities suspect the quality of documentation/evidence it can be pursued at that time.
This is complicated only because people want to make it complicated, possibly to cloud the issue and ensure it is NOT resolved.
Yes. Study up:
The accusation of treason comes from a retired member of the U.S. military officer, Lt. Cmdr. Walter Fitzpatrick III, who has presented his complaint to U.S. Attorney Russell Dedrick in Tennessee, the presentment explains. In that, he alleged, "Now you [Obama] have broken in and entered the White House by force of contrivance, concealment, conceit, dissembling, and deceit. Posing as an impostor president and commander in chief you have stripped civilian command and control over the military establishment. Known military criminal actors-command racketeers-are now free in the exercise of military government intent upon destruction of America's constitutional government. We come now to this reckoning. I accuse you and your military-political criminal assistants of TREASON. I name you and your military criminal associates as traitors. Your criminal ascension manifests a clear and present danger. You fundamentally changed our form of government. The Constitution no longer works."
So they made an issue about McCain, to try to cure Obama’s ineligibility by statute. Which, by the way, is null and void if it contravenes the black-letter law of the Constitution itself, which no doubt it will be found to have done, when the issue is eventually adjudicated by the Supreme Court.
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Do you think that will happen? How long do you think it will take?
Can you provide a link to any site talking to or displaying an Obama "BIRTH CERTIFICATE" that was made PUBLIC?
If you can -- THAT would put a end to the Constitutional issue.
If you can't- Then you're as full of it as MSNBCABCCBSNBCCNN.
The "presented" Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" is not a Birth Certificate - in that it doesn't give TRACEABLE information: name of hospital, attending Physician, multiple births, etc, etc.. During the era of Obama's birth, one could be obtained by simply asking for it.
Folks - including Snopes.com - an in the bag Leftist couple - point to the newspaper announcement of Obama's birth as prove he was born in Hawaii. I could call ANY newspaper in America today and pay them to run an ad announcing the birth of a non-existing child...
Obama's mother, friends or parents - horrified at the learning of Obama's birth "elsewhere" could easily have taken steps to establish his claim to American citizenship.
Obama could EASILY clear this up and remove all doubt, avoiding a constitutional crises, potential race riots or worse ---- by simply lifting all barriers to PUBLIC INFORMATION about his birth...
He hasn't - and curious folks must wonder why?
So, if he were a natural-born citizen, you think it would be a good idea to propogate the idea that he were not? That no proof of that would satisfy you? I am concerned with whether things are true or not. Surely you are not saying you have a 'moral obligation' to pursue a false line of attack? That would seem to me rather oxymoronic.
Me - I want the State of Hawaii to verify his status. I don't care what Obama provides. I want the State to certify it. If that requires him to sign a waiver of some kind, that's all I want from him. If he provided that, and it panned out, I'd think that taking legitimate tacks against him would be the way to go.
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