Posted on 02/09/2009 3:04:21 PM PST by jessduntno
Just reported...
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
our Senator in Tennessee..the other is Alexander....a pin head
Damn!
I could tell and why I was almost shouting WAIT!!! :)
Republicans need to do a much better job of getting out the word instead of allowing the media to define everything. One wrong headline and someone is in trouble.
“me thinks your thread is just fine, everybody is a little pissed off right now, rightly so”
I guess...I’m one of them...when I heard it on the tube, I heard them saying it was the first step in the final passage, which I agreed with...I posted it and all the nah, nah, nah started, instead of adressing the original post itself, which, IMHO was the story that I still felt was the important one, that we are on the path to hell...I started feeling a little like Joe the plumber...I kept explaining what happened, apologized and they kept attacking me like I was purposely misleading everyone...but, like Joe, I really don’t know how it became about me...go figure...apologies don’t matter to some of these folks...I feel sorry for them, not for me...shoot the messenger, but the story is still the same...
Greg said he was going to abstain.
At least that gives us time to make certain we have a barf bag within reach. We can also be judicious in our choice of breakfast tomorrow morning..or supper tonight for those in the west.
We do have one more chance after tomorrow. When the additional pork is added to the bill in the Conference Committee we have a chance to filibuster that one. It is only a chance but my hope is that the House will add everything back in that was stripped and the bill goes over $900B and at least Collins might balk at that or she said it isn’t a done deal until it comes back from Conference Committee.
My recommendation is everyone after tomorrow switch gears and go back after their House and Senate Members to vote against the Conference Committee Report. We have one small chance left that will be the final vote.
Knowing that Collins and Snowe will vote tomorrow for the
Porculous bill and will be re-elected no matter what, and
with the two votes being enough to pass the bill Specter
may vote against it just to cover his @ss.
What's the difference?
Collins just got re-elected to a six year term by a wide margin. She is not worried. Snowe and Specter would lose in their liberal states if they voted against the bill. If it gets changed too much in House/Senate reconciliation process they could possibly vote against final passage.
You are correct. Those three will give him the win. Our local news was reminding people that 60 votes are needed in the Senate for final package.
I heard from one of our Senate staffers that it was 15-3 and you correct that is not bi-partisan especially when one of them supports Scottish law.
Nope. The vote today was to limit debate on one amendment. Associated with that is an agreement to have vote on final passage set at 60, with the potential for additional "point of order" votes which are, by Senate rule, set at 60. The 60 vote threshold for the vote on final passage is just a short cut combination cloture/final passage vote. Senators know that it takes 60 to limit debate, and when the KNOW there are 60 supporters, they usually agree to skip the formality of separate cloture and substantive votes.
The pair of cloture.substance votes can happen on many single items. In this case, the two single items are 1) amendment and 2) bill.
“Damn!”
Thanks for all you are doing and have done...sorry you didn’t get to look any of them in the face, but glad you got to some of the COS...good luck and get home safely...
This is a long shot, but the CBO is scheduled to score the thing “early this week”. If they come out with their numbers and they are ugly maybe it could help. On second thought, probably too late.
It won't matter if all four of them vote no tomorrow. For the bill to pass, it only needs 51 (or 50+ Biden), not 60.
The RNC has no say over Collins OR Snowe!!!!!!!!! We have an RNC, RNSC, RNCC.....
Senate Stimulus Bill Passes Key Test Vote,
Obama Makes Pitch for Economy
WSJ Online | 2/9/09 | Jonathan Weisman and Greg Hitt
Posted on 02/09/2009 3:49:02 PM PST by Pontiac
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2181923/posts
[snip] Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter, along with Maine Sens. Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins – joined with all 58 Democrats on the procedural motion. [end]
After Action Reports of Porkulus Freep of the Senate [With Youtube vid]
Monday, February 9, 2009 | Catherine Moy, elk, iMacMan
Posted on 02/09/2009 2:40:55 PM PST by kristinn
Edited on 02/09/2009 3:31:10 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2181859/posts
Freepers, other citizens storm Sen. Specter’s Office on Porkulus
MelanieMorgan.Com | Febuary 9, 2009 | Melanie Morgan
Posted on 02/09/2009 3:25:57 PM PST by Syncro
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2181901/posts
Cat Moy: Storming the Gates and Aiming at Porkulus-enabler Specter
(MAF Report on PORKULUS)
Move America Forward | Monday, February 09, 2009 | Catherine Moy
Posted on 02/09/2009 3:36:51 PM PST by Syncro
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2181913/posts
Can you say immediate RECALL?
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